Oh, and how much MORE power did we give up WILLINGLY to the politicians????

To answer your question... no more. What power did you or I give up due to the recent diagnoses of hn1n?

I heard that President Obama's daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. And that he does not want them vaccinated. If this is true then why must the public receive a H1N1 vaccine that the President will not allow his own children to receive ?...

People are so quick to jump to conclusions and judge. I often don't wash my hands at a dirty public restroom nor use their dirty paper towel dispensers. I use my hand sanitizer most often and then try to not touch anything as I leave the stall. In a clean looking restroom I will wash with soap & water as I prefer that to hand sanitizers but in a dirty restroom, no way am I thinking I'm getting my hands clean by using their facilities. So really, you don't know if someone cleaned up or not, you are just looking for something to bray about and feel superior.

And those of us who have always kept clean have also caught the flu. Implying that we (including you) caught the flu because of bad hygiene is just silly.

Before you encourage others to overreact, please get the facts straight

Before you encourage others to overreact

Violation of 4th Amendment: Illegal search and seizure
During either type of declared emergency, a local public health authority... may exercise authority... to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises; to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility; to destroy any material; to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;




Violation of 14th Amendment; illegal arrest without a warrant

...an officer authorized to serve criminal process may arrest without a warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated an order given to effectuate the purposes of this subsection and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order. [Gunpoint]




Government price controls

The attorney general, in consultation with the office of consumer affairs and business regulation, and upon the declaration by the governor that a supply emergency exists, shall take appropriate action to ensure that no person shall sell a product or service that is at a price that unreasonably exceeds the price charged before the emergency.

"Involuntary Transportation" (also known as kidnapping)

Law enforcement authorities, upon order of the commissioner or his agent or at the request of a local public health authority pursuant to such order, shall assist emergency medical technicians or other appropriate medical personnel in the involuntary transportation of such person to the tuberculosis treatment center.




$1,000 / day in fines

Any person who knowingly violates an order, as to which noncompliance poses a serious danger to public health as determined by the commissioner or the local public health authority, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 30 days or a fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues, or both.




Forced vaccinations


Furthermore, when the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction determines that either or both of the following measures are necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health the commissioner or local public health authority may exercise the following authority: (1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis to individuals as protection against communicable disease...




Forced quarantine for those who refuse (illegal imprisonment without charge)

An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.




Arrest for refusal to be "decontaminated"

If an individual is unable or unwilling to submit to decontamination or procedures necessary for diagnosis, the decontamination or diagnosis procedures may proceed only pursuant to an order of the superior court... During the time necessary to obtain such court order, such individual may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal to submit to decontamination or diagnosis procedures poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health.




Federal home visit 'intervention teams' funded

At the federal level, in mid-July 2009, the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee approved a health-care reform bill, The Affordable Health Choices Act that will fund state ‘intervention’ teams for home visits to ensure children and adults have been vaccinated and to provide “provision of immunizations,” reported CNS News. (Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief, Health Care Bill Will Fund State Vaccine Teams to Conduct ‘Interventions’ in Private Homes, CNSNews.com, July 16, 2009




Forced isolation and quarantine

An order for isolation or quarantine may include any individual who is unwilling or unable to undergo vaccination, precautionary prophylaxis, medical treatment, decontamination, medical examinations, tests, or specimen collection and whose refusal of one or more of these measures poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health.

This bill HAS been passed in senate and awaiting house approval.

I am also sure that you are aware that Obama has declared a state of emergency and all that comes with that order if they deciede to enforce it.

nope nothing wrong here sarah

still, I won't be getting the shot.

But the probable copyright infringement

You've made vague references to it (inserting it into a conversation involving national issues) and forgotten to mention that it is a state bill.

Then, you don't post the bill or a link to it

You're feeding into the frenzy

I once again ask what rights either you or I have given up related to the dx of H1N1. It would be fantastic if you would answer this.

That's a bill. It is matter of public record. I would be a little more worried about the thumb being pushed down a little harder. You can only mash a bug so far!

Umm..'vague' references because I was trying to stick to the thread , altho it IS relateted to pandemic preparedness of H1N1 is it not ?
I do believe I mentioned it WAS a state bill anytime I mentioned it...

well Saharam I suggest you research bill 2028
It was passed in senate back in the spring .
Then come back and tell us your thoughts .

Yes indeed I was refering to the Massachusetts bill 2028

I have done that several times on these foras , months ago in fact
was it really that hard for you to type bill 2028 and hit search ?

I didnt answer it because this isnt about ME
it 'IS' however about friends that live in Mass
and are frightened that bill 2028 even passed senate .

well Saharam I suggest you research bill 2028
It was passed in senate back in the spring .
Then come back and tell us your thoughts .

heard that President Obama's daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. And that he does not want them vaccinated. If this is true then why must the public receive a H1N1 vaccine that the President will not allow his own children to receive ?.....

ORLY?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/10/27/obama_girls_vaccinated_against.html?wprss=44

This chicken little concocted emergency that's been declared - why isn't one declared every single flu season when the government and other sources claim somewhere between 15,000, to 21,000 to 36,000 to 67,000 AMERICANS die each year from the flu and its complications each and every year. This "State of Emergency" crap is nothing but another power ploy.

Homeland Security Department accused the GAO of having unrealistic expectations of how the Internet could be managed if millions began to telework from home at the same time as bored or sick schoolchildren were playing online, sucking up valuable bandwidth.
Experts have for years pointed to the potential problem of Internet access during a severe pandemic, which would be a unique kind of emergency. It would be global, affecting many areas at once, and would last for weeks or months, unlike a disaster such as a hurricane or earthquake.
H1N1 swine flu has been declared a pandemic but is considered a moderate one. Health experts say a worse one -- or a worsening of this one -- could result in 40 percent absentee rates at work and school at any given time and closed offices, transportation links and other gathering places.

Quite the number of "coincidences". And currently, the media keeps announcing vaccine locations, prompting hundreds and often thousands of people lining up for hours before, with many of them inevitably disappointed and expressing outrage, disgust and fear on the evening news as a result.

After promising there'd be plenty of vaccine available, suddenly the administration announces a shortage of vaccine - on the order of 85% LESS than was promised all along.

remember how there was a panic about cabbage patch kids at christmas a few years ago people lined up for hours thinking there wasnt enough available.