| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 8:50:46 AM | I've used -and keep using- escorts for sex. She ends happy, I end happy, and that's all.
Yes, I've had one or two women tut-tutting at that -I don't advertise it, but I don't deny it if asked either- but I simply say that their sex lives aren't my business, and my sex life certainly isn't theirs. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 8:54:10 AM | This is too freaking funny!!!!!!!!!
He used an Escort? Oh, that'd be a deal breaker. I will never date a Ford man
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 10:47:33 AM |
1. Driving a motorcycle 2. Driving a car 3. Smoking or other chemical addiction. 4. Drinking Alcohol to the point of drunkenness 5. Eating too much/unhealthy diet 6. Exposing yourself to stressful situations 7. Lack of sleep (makes stress worse) 8. Poor mental health/suicide 9. Not exercising regularly 10. Catching pneumonia 11. Catching the flu 12. Accidental Poisoning
Statistics don't mean crap... For example, you could as easily say SEX is more dangerous, because you might die as a result of only a few minutes of acitivity... whereas, you can literally drive for hours everyday day after day, year after year before it might kill you... If you broke it down to risk vs actual time of activity... most of the above would be safer than sex... Not to mention, items #6, #10,#11 and since a biological can be a poison, #12 could all be construed as bio-hazards the same as sex could be... Statistics are always protrayed to prove a point... As they say 76% of statistics are made up on the spot.... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 11:03:06 AM | Just remember one thing.......everyone has a past......going out with an escort is like going out on a date and getting laid at the end......difference is.......the people that do the escort....were dumb enough to pay for it.....
no its not a deal breaker....the past should be left there....i'd worry about if he was doing it in the present.....thats another topic....... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 1:34:38 PM |
no its not a deal breaker....the past should be left there....i'd worry about if he was doing it in the present.....thats another topic.......
The past can't always be left behind. Some bring the results of the past with them; you know things like AIDS,Herpes etc.
Someone using escorts are desperate people ,or they are married so they pay some escort thinking it's safer with no strings attached....
A deal breaker? Yep it is!!!!!!!! | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:16:46 PM | The escort is more often than not a matter of desperation but the convience of it all. I think that when men take the option it is primarily for the end result without the hastles sometimes involved in dating. Contrary to popular opinion most of these men have relationships or marriages and most can afford it.
It ultimately cost less time and money and comes to the same end and it appeals to the practical nature of many men and that profound in the big money arenas.......A far cry cheaper than a kept woman and a whole lot less time consuming than the dating process and if your busy and got the money it easily saves at both ends............... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:22:21 PM | How far in the past? Look, we are all prone to making poor choices...how long should we have to face ridicule for those choices? Are you saying that you've never gotten drunk and had a momentary lapse of judgement? Give the man a break. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:23:31 PM |
For example, you could as easily say SEX is more dangerous, because you might die as a result of only a few minutes of acitivity...
M_church,
Well either way, I'd rather go out with a 'bang'.
Wouldn't you want to go out with a Bang rather than a crash, wheeze or whimper? | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:28:21 PM | It's none of my business if he did so or not in the distant past or the immediate past. I mind what he does starting the point he decided to make a commitment to me. Before that, I don't want a guy to interfere in what I did before I met him... and if I want to be fair, I should treat people as I expect to be treated ... Taxi!!! LOL | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:40:49 PM |
You have two men. One takes a woman he has just met out to dinner which costs $50, and then they have sex.One takes a woman and has sex with her and gives her the $50 he would have spent on dinner.In both cases he has spent money for sex. So what's the big deal? To you the second one is prostitution, to me neither is. And if both women leave with a big smile...even better.
~Beth~
BIG difference Beth, I can't see how you've correlated the two...The difference in my opinion is the initial intent. I can't imagine any woman bartering her body for a louzy dinner!... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:42:11 PM | | I have. Every close male friend I know has too- Unless your man is really weird or a celebrity..wait..Didn't charlie sheen and hugh grant use one too..well anyway Expect most men have seen an escort before. If she cant handle the truth she will be happy for a while with a man who lies to her. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:47:03 PM |
I can't imagine any woman bartering her body for a louzy dinner!
Arabianangel,
But what if it's a really really good dinner with a back/foot rub after?
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 2:51:19 PM |
Arabianangel,
But what if it's a really really good dinner with a back/foot rub after?
Well now we're talking! but a louzy $50 aint going to give me a man with BIG hands
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 4:38:13 PM |
I have. Every close male friend I know has too
Expect most men have seen an escort before Must be the crowd you hang with... Never had to pay for sex.... nor rent a ****....
Escort is just a more politically correct word for whore....
As for STD's.... Despite the myth of getting tested regularly, escorts are escorts until they test positive....hence why so "few" escorts have stds... but between exposure and testing positive, there can be a 3- 6 month window that they're contagious in... Some reports put the number of escorts with HSV2 as high as 95% and condoms don't protect against that....
Wouldn't you want to go out with a Bang rather than a crash, wheeze or whimper? Personally, I'd rather go out, LATER rather than sooner... beyond that, crash wheeze or whimper is really irrelevant.... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 5:36:47 PM |
Expect most men have seen an escort before
Uh...someone seems to be creating a sense of majority so he isn't the minority. I'm sorry, but most men have not seen escorts. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/7/2009 5:47:56 PM | No, that would not be a deal breaker for me. As long as both parties are happy with the event. What if he had got to NV where prostitution is (was?) legal, would that make a difference?
Seems like a lot of people are hung up on sex! lol, I have my own hang ups about it. I would not want someone who was bi-sexual, or a swinger, or who frquented drug additict hookers in alley ways. Oh, and really someone who has sex with their first cousin is also out of the question,, | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 9:23:48 AM | "No, but how would you know? Or don't you care? I see pimping as vile, plain and simple. Perhaps you are okay with it. "
Where did I say I was okay with it or that I don't care? Are you a mind reader?
"And in Canada, no one ever does anything illegal. Problem solved."
A strawman. I never said people in canada don't do anything illegal. my point was since pimping is outlawed you're bound to find many escorts who operate independently.
"Welcome to 2009. Anything that can be required of a female (i.e. a willingness to overlook her partner paying for sex) can be asked of a male, too. Do you think a lot of men would be okay with knowing that their beloved paid a male prostitute for sex? If women are expected to look the other way about such a thing, then so should men."
What is your point exactly? You seem to be beating a dead horse Women are free to use whatever criteria they want in choosing a man. Same with men nobody is denying that. If I found out the woman i'm dating paid for it i'd be fine with it. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 10:13:07 AM | I don't see going to the odd strip club or even a escort if it's just a special occasion thing.
Escorts on special occasions? Happy Halloween, I think I'll buy myself some strange?
If I found out the woman i'm dating paid for it i'd be fine with it. Would you be OK if you found out the woman you were dating had been paid for it? | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 10:45:52 AM |
Escorts on special occasions? Happy Halloween, I think I'll buy myself some strange?
Stephalump (I like that handle),
Absolutely... Nothing says "Merry Christmas" like having Santa's helpers providing "Full Service"...
Also great for Stags, birthdays, weddings, funerals, high school graduations, Halloween (where do you think the 'Trick' comes from in 'Trick or Treat'?), New Years Eve and Retirement Parties (send him off with a bang).
Would you be OK if you found out the woman you were dating had been paid for it?
Now that you mention it... that *did* happen to me... and yes I was/am okay with it... she even showed me her ad...
Did I mention I'm a little bit Liberal in my social attitudes? | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 11:21:12 AM |
Using an escort means he opened himself up to many, many more chances of getting an STD than your standard "oops" ONS that so many people have done. Use the math....(this is just an example!): Average Joe (10 partners) and you (6 partners)=16 Average Joe (10 partners) and escort (50 partners)=60 That's way too much STD roulette for me....
If they didn't have sex, maybe the guy was new in town and just lonely, which isn't a crime. If they did have sex, it would be only fair to ask him to get tested for all the STDs. If he's clear, it would be one less major thing for him as well as you to worry about. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 1:35:58 PM | | It puts him in the catagory of a loser who has to pay for it. I would look at him like the trick that he is. Which is a bit lower than a****roach. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 2:35:33 PM | daveincarson:
Most men pay for sex either way. Three dates and paying for everything = $300 and no guarantee of sex. Escort service... guaranteed sex and only $300. I've never used one.. but I live in Nevada where we have TONS of Brothels just 15-20 minutes away. That is what the guys I have talked to told me. The ones who have went there at least.. One older guy said, "I got tired of throwing my money away and paying for dates, so I figure this way I get what I want and don't waste my money"
Sure, you just heard from other guys... | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 3:39:26 PM | | For me, it would be a deal breaker just from my experience. I fell in love with someone who confessed to using prostitutes regularly in his past. He turned out to be someone who was confused by sex and love and was an habitual cheater within our relationship. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 5:02:52 PM | Whenwillthiswork,
It puts him in the catagory of a loser who has to pay for it.
By your definition, someone who pays for sex is a loser... and so, wouldn't someone who pays EVEN MORE be even a BIGGER LOSER?
Well let's really think about this for a second... From a guy's perspective, if you want to play, you have to pay... and that is REGARDLESS of whether the girl is a girlfriend, wife, stripper or escort.
The difference between having a girlfriend/wife and a stripper/escort is that with a stripper/escort, you usually know how much you're gonna have to pay upfront.
I personally was with my Ex for almost 15 years... about 9 of those years married.
Here's an incomplete list of things I had to pay for as a result of my 'committed relationship': -Engagement ring - $$$$ -Wedding/Honeymoon - $$,$$$ -Upgrading to a house - $$,$$$ -Upgraded to a nicer house - $$,$$$ -the cost of raising two kids - ongoing -The stress on me when I came home from work one day and found she left with the kids (even though she came back after a few days) and hearing her accuse me of stuff I never did over the phone - probably shortened my life by a few years. -eventually the cost of getting a divorce and spitting the assets - $$,$$$ to $$$,$$$
And that does not include the cost of dates, gifts and other things.
Also note that my Ex never worked full time during our time together. And for a good part of the time, she didn't even work part-time.
In my estimation, my 15 year committed relationship cost me about $1000/month... for each month of those 15 years. That includes the money she contributed here and there through her part-time wages.
From a pure financial basis, having a 'friend with benefits' is the best deal with the least risk... as long as she doesn't move in. This avoids issues relating to spousal support and you're unlikely to have kids. Note as well that if a woman has kids and she moves in with a guy and then later splits up with him, he can end up paying child support for kids that aren't even his. That's the law in Canada. I think they should be teaching this in high school.
The next best is seeing an Escort once a week for an hour. And you have the freedom to have as much variety as you want.
And then next is the committed relationship... which can be a pretty good deal IF both work and make about the same money. If she doesn't work, then it's the most expensive option as soon as she lives with you. And it can becomes insanely expensive if you divorce. And divorce has plenty of emotional costs as well as financial. And even in a relationship that doesn't fall apart, you still have restrictions on your freedom, which varies depending on the partner. I've seen, what I consider to be awful relationships, where both the husband and wife had to do *everything* together... and as a result, they ended up not doing much of anything except working and puttering around their house.
That's precisely the reason why some guys who are well off would be insane from a financial standpoint to marry anybody.
Of course this doesn't account for all the soft benefits such as: -Experiencing a deeper level of intimacy that you could ever have with an escort you're paying -Going through the process of having unprotected sex to intentionally get pregnant, the pregnancy and the birth -Holding your son or daughter for the first time -having kids that love you
But not everyone wants these things... or at least they don't want it enough to be willing to pay for it or take the risk of experiencing the pain a the end of a relationship causes.
And to me, there is more to life than just money... and if you go through life without taking some risks, then you're not living life. But again... that's just my attitude, not everybody's attitude.
And you *could* say there's more to a marriage than just sex... but let's be honest... people don't get married because they *want* to live a life of celibacy.
Make no mistake... sex in one form or another ALMOST ALWAYS results in the guy having to pay in one form or another in practice... and that's a fact.
So the *truth* is that a guy who sees Escorts regularly often ISN'T a loser because he has the financial means to afford them and/or has come to the *rational* conclusion that seeing escorts is a better choice for him.
Factor in as well that I'm a guy who DOESN'T spend money on Escorts (only went to one once in my life)... and I only go to strip clubs if it's someone's stag or birthday ... and I've witnessed and experienced first hand the financial and emotional costs that can guys to turn away from dating completely in order protect themselves emotionally and financially. | |
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| If you found out he used an escort Posted: 5/8/2009 5:06:54 PM | ^^^^^^^^^Gorgeous boy, stop your whinning! if you weren't happy you wouldn't have remained in that relationship...oh , and why do men always complain about the cost AFTER the relationship ended, why are you guys so keen to spend all this money when you're in the relationship? no one had a gun to your head and made you do it! you know I luv ya Zekestone, but I am tired of listening to whinny men!  | |
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