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Posted: 7/18/2009 7:18:03 PM |
Hitler was carefully groomed for his position.
Life is meant to expose who we truly are deep down.
Life will force us to see what we are really capable of. This is why it is important to look down into your self and choose to be better than that. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 10:55:04 AM | I don't know if anyone else is seeing this... It just might be because I'm writing about it, that I keep seeing things pop up.
More and more I have seen specials on "Nostradamus" and the "2012 Mayan" date and "Revelations".
Do a search using this phrase >>> M.A.R.C. Of the B.E.A.S.T.
You will find some interesting reading. I just find it interesting that as we move towards a cashless society and a one world order... that they have actually created this microchip and named it M.A.R.C. and expect to get everyone to have these things implanted. That you will not be able to buy or sell anything without them, and you will be tracked.
The information, is not only a tracking number and device,... It will have your work history, credit history... Medical records... even anything that you have been arrested for.
Who says SciFi is not a reality?
A lot of people are sheep and don't see this... and are probably laughing right now..... When you are standing in line to have this device shot into your hand.... You will still be laughing... because every step will be carefully plotted and it will just be the next step of many.... and people will not look back to see what was said.... and what is being done.
What I find very funny... or should I rephrase that... interesting, is that the Mayan calendar, along with Nostradamus's predictions and Revelations... Things are playing out....
Notice. In these eight verses, the MARK is referred by:
Rev 13:16 "a mark"
Rev 13:17 " the mark"
Rev 14:9 "his mark"
Rev 14:11 "mark of his name"
Rev 15:2 "his mark"
Rev 16:2 "the mark of the beast"
Rev 19:20 "the mark of the beast"
Rev 20:4 "his mark"
Very important: Notice how the mark is personally associated, representative or symbolic of the beast or antichrist:
Rev 14:9 "his mark"
Rev 14:11 "mark of his name"
Rev 15:2 "his mark"
Rev 16:2 "the mark of the beast"
Rev 19:20 "the mark of the beast"
Rev 20:4 "his mark"
Three times (14:9, 15:2, 20:4) it’s called "HIS mark".
Two times (16:2, 19:20) it’s called "the mark OF THE BEAST"
One time (14:11) it’s called "the mark of HIS Name"
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, OR the name of the beast, OR the number of his name. Rev. 13:17
Interesting reading
http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/marc.htm
Watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA
Could all be nothing..... But very interesting... Just coincidence?
For so many reasons.... we need to wake up... and look around. Or drink a lot | |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 4:41:08 PM | Hello Jackdiamond,
I don't know if anyone else is seeing this... It just might be because I'm writing about it, that I keep seeing things pop up.
More and more I have seen specials on "Nostradamus" and the "2012 Mayan" date and "Revelations".
It's called viral self propagated fear mongering. It's all meant to desensitize people into feeling like they are not in control of their lives. The more people who are conditioned to believe that you are not in control of your life, government and emotions the more you really wont be. It kind of works like a subconscious pyramid scheme. Just look at the back of a dollar bill, we are all just blocks that make the tip of they pyramid. If you can control what the blocks that make up the pyramid think. You control what at the top. 
Most people fall for it, some don't...some. 
TA!!
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Posted: 7/22/2009 5:22:11 PM |
viral self propagated fear mongering.
What? 
It's all meant to desensitize people into feeling like they are not in control of their lives. The more people who are conditioned to believe that you are not in control of your life, government and emotions the more you really wont be.
Hold that thought.... OK... now what are you saying?
It kind of works like a subconscious pyramid scheme. Just look at the back of a dollar bill, we are all just blocks that make the tip of they pyramid. If you can control what the blocks that make up the pyramid think. You control what at the top.
So, are you saying that people who are looking around and can see that something is going on right under our noses are indulging themselves into viral self propagated fear mongering? Are you suggesting we should all get in line, take a number and not ask questions?
If we don't want to become sheep... we are scaring the rest of the flock? Should we just lay down for the wolf? As you can see, your statement lost me.... Because this can't be possible what you really meant by that propagated fear mongering stuff.
Is this about religion? Are you saying Revelations is a tool of scaring the people into compliance?
Lets leave religion out of it.
2000 years ago a book was written and it calls for some things to happen... a prediction you could say. About 500 years ago someone else talks about a similar ending you could say. The Mayan calendar ends at this very same time... Not to mention... Obama's first term is over at this same time.
I'm not being Chicken little... The sky isn't falling... But there are some very interesting things happening....
I was curious, if in Revelations it says that you will not be able to buy or sell goods without the MARK..... And now those that seem to be in-charge... OF the World... are pushing hard for world standard currency, and ultimately to a no currency world order... and it's called M.A.R.K. (M.A.R.K. of the B.E.A.S.T.) actually... Are they naming this to mess with us... knowing so many people knows about the Mark of the Beast, the Anti Christ... and 666 and all that?
Fear Mongering? How about wondering.... what is really going on? Those that want to be sheep.... I don't care.... I'm asking questions! | |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 6:43:08 PM |
What?
Well if it is not viral self propagating fear mongering, then what would you call it.
Do you honestly think we are not all part of a system. do you honestly think that if there is a "THEY" they did not include you into their equation?
Do you honestly think that anything you read or see on TV or the news or anything made by holly wood are not tools used by who ever they are used by to make you think what they want?
You still think your outside of the box don't you....well that's exactly where they want you.
Hold that thought.... OK... now what are you saying?
What if I told you that you are an indestructible entity. An entity that could not be forced to do anything he did not want to. An entity that could not die and has always exited.
How would I control such a being?
So, are you saying that people who are looking around and can see that something is going on right under our noses are indulging themselves into viral self propagated fear mongering? Are you suggesting we should all get in line, take a number and not ask questions?
No I'm saying that both the people that are looking around and the ones getting in line are sheep. If you are not one of the sheep you are one of the wolves. If you are a wolf you have either controlling the game or observing. To become a wolf you have to know who you are. then you can decide your intentions. At the wolf level there is no good and bad only what you are.
If we don't want to become sheep... we are scaring the rest of the flock? Should we just lay down for the wolf? As you can see, your statement lost me.... Because this can't be possible what you really meant by that propagated fear mongering stuff.
Scaring sheep does not make them a wolf it only makes them more easily controlled. All part of the plan.
Is this about religion? Are you saying Revelations is a tool of scaring the people into compliance?
All religions are half truths. they both enslave people and free people.
2000 years ago a book was written and it calls for some things to happen... a prediction you could say. About 500 years ago someone else talks about a similar ending you could say. The Mayan calendar ends at this very same time... Not to mention... Obama's first term is over at this same time.
I'm not being Chicken little... The sky isn't falling... But there are some very interesting things happening....
I was curious, if in Revelations it says that you will not be able to buy or sell goods without the MARK..... And now those that seem to be in-charge... OF the World... are pushing hard for world standard currency, and ultimately to a no currency world order... and it's called M.A.R.K. (M.A.R.K. of the B.E.A.S.T.) actually... Are they naming this to mess with us... knowing so many people knows about the Mark of the Beast, the Anti Christ... and 666 and all that?
All prophecies are self fulfilling because we are such powerful entities while not knowing it.
Fear Mongering? How about wondering.... what is really going on? Those that want to be sheep.... I don't care.... I'm asking
Sheep are sheep it's up to sheep to stop being sheep. Wolves can make them change they can only make things tough on them until the stop being sheep.
TA!!
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Posted: 7/23/2009 8:00:19 AM | fzrhusker
thanks for the link... I have been all over crystalinks... Very interesting reading there.
Also, this Vril Society which comes from the Black Forest in Germany is very interesting... I have read a lot on the history of the Black Forest... It is located at the beginning of the Rhine River, which runs north to the North Sea and was a major divided from the East and West, and is the beginning of the Danube River which runs east to the Black Sea... and was the border to the North for most part of Roman History. A lot of Battles took place there, and secret societies come from that area. It is near France, Italy and Switzerland in the South West corner of Germany... The history is fascinating from this region.
The Teutoburg Forest was another interesting region... The Battle of Teutoburg was fought there on 9-9-9. We soon will be at it's 2000th anniversary... and another interesting date... 9-9-9 2009 that is. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:48:29 AM | Religion is just a way of controlling people, a phase in human EVOLUTION, a civilizing force, but not an absolute.
All groups and societies and religions and governments form just to consolidate power and there is no sublime objective ultimately other than to gain power and control and protect a certain group. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2009 12:33:50 PM | Edding,
This simply ignores social-contract theory. There is a subtext to deconstructionism you know.
I would go so far as to agree with you that in an unconscious populace, government develops to consolidate power, but to what legitimate end?
Why would people put up with it if it didn't serve some evolutionary purpose? It would take, at most, 3 people to kill a local despot. In most cases it could be done by 1 or 2. So that means that all these problems of government could, in theory, be nipped in the bud if there wasn't some value to be gained from a perception of order, even at an often-too-high cost to the majority in terms of freedom.
Why do we put up with these idiots? Because, overall, we're better off putting up with them than we are in a Hobbesian state of nature where it's everyone for her- or himself.
This is where I think the Libertarians get it right. A government must have the power to prevent individuals and groups from abrogating the rights of others with impunity. And, it must also have the power to effectively deter fraud in all its forms. Those are the minimal powers that a government needs to ensure that we can sefely cooperate with each other. What other powers does a legitimate government need? I'm not sure a government needs any.However, the working out of those two powers in the face of clever people who are prone to cheat can get complicated! And, if the people want to invest a government with additional powers, that is their right.
If religion is just propaganda to get people to go along with the program by playing on their fears of the unknown, their needs for reassurance, and their desire to belong, it is often very effective! Eating the cattle would mean less fertilizer for the fields, so ... make them sacred and make it a sin to harm them! Seasonal shellfish poisoning? Declare them trafe. Undermine the moral authority of Rome? Declare that rabble-rouser the ressurected Son of God!
Of course there's more to the Christ story than the politics, but that is definitely a part of it. The lone individual standing up against the entire massed might of Eternal Rome and setting in motion its ultimate defeat? That's a religious view that I can identify with. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2009 2:01:25 PM | I meant to add this but my editing window ran out: That is the ultimate in liberation theology.
If the U.S. is a Christian nation, it is because the Founders understood from Christ's political example that no matter how powerful a government and its associated economy might be, if it loses moral legitimacy it will eventually fail! And what is the ultimate basis for a government's legitimacy? Whether or not it can still claim to do a reasonably good job of safeguarding the rights of the individual--including individuals who are crazy enough to assert their divine sovereignty as human beings. Christianity started out as a secret society in order to survive within the Roman Empire. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2009 2:56:05 PM | | US lost its moral authority the moment it was created. Slavery and genocide akin to the greatest crimes of the Romans. And it continues | |
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Posted: 7/23/2009 3:47:24 PM | Hello Aceofspace,
If the U.S. is a Christian nation, it is because the Founders understood from Christ's political example that no matter how powerful a government and its associated economy might be, if it loses moral legitimacy it will eventually fail! And what is the ultimate basis for a government's legitimacy? Whether or not it can still claim to do a reasonably good job of safeguarding the rights of the individual--including individuals who are crazy enough to assert their divine sovereignty as human beings. Christianity started out as a secret society in order to survive within the Roman Empire.
The US never was and never will be a Cristian Nation. You don't have religious free dome under a Cristian Nation. The Founders were a bunch of Self-righteous pirates that created a "Tortuga" of freedom where every man considered a man at that time could have a hand at the plunder. The US constitution was made in a way that the governing force which were the people even had the right to turn themselves in slaves like we have done Today.
Christianity was never a secret society rather it was a bunch of Jewish sects that practised their heretical rituals in secret. they were persecuted both by the Romans and the Orthodox Jewish establishment. It was not until the Romans and the orthodox Jewish establishment decided to destroy the heretics that we now call Gnostics that the new testament was created.
Christians of today just don't understand that Christ had no problem at all with The roman empire. He was a Jew surrounded by Jews who's souls were not being properly fed by the the Jewish temple. So later on in history Jewish Christ following sects started developing all over the place only to be exterminated by the followers of Christ themselves.
TA!!
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Posted: 7/24/2009 12:50:03 AM |
US lost its moral authority the moment it was created. Slavery and genocide akin to the greatest crimes of the Romans. And it continues
Well, that's putting the grimmest possible spin on it. What is the subtext for that?
The culural influences at the time of the founding were certainly a mixed bag, and we still do have those who believe that all bets are off for noncitizens--which is how slavery and genocide were justified. Nevertheless, the concepts of equality under the law and the role of the government to safeguard individual rights are cornerstones of moral philosophy.
I"ve read my Marx, and cannot fault a single criticisms he makes of bourgois capitalism, but his prescriptions for a cure are simply backward. You don't get anywhere by disenfranchizing the formerly wealthy--because many of them got their by competence and not just corruption. As has been happening for the last 200+ years, our understanding of the scope of our rights has been expanding to be more inclusive. It might not be perfection, but it is certainly progress when compared against the days of witch burnings--which is what you go back to when you place the lumpen proletariat in charge by force.
They don' t need, or necessarily want to be in charge. What they do need, and want, and are absolutely justified in demanding, is a seat at the table whenever decisions are being discussed that affect their lives. Socialism doesn' t even pretend to give them that. Capitalism with appopriate regulation of corporate boards, very well could. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 1:16:25 AM | Hello AceOfSpace,
I"ve read my Marx, and cannot fault a single criticisms he makes of bourgois capitalism, but his prescriptions for a cure are simply backward.
This is so very true!
But what worries me is that Marx's predictions or observations in describing the preludes of capitalism and socialism into communism look very accurate.
What is even scarier is that cold stone so called capitalists of today's age are even themselves sounding like Marx himself. with regards to artisans and small shop keepers being entities who hold back time.
Soon you will have people wishing for Utopia not realizing that a utopia is only possible by complete force and control over the divers population.
But even scarier still is the creation of Corporate-communism. 
This world is so Foocked. 
TA!!
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