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Posted: 5/10/2009 4:53:13 PM | Methinks the OP can't get a date and needs to blame "something" for it, so he blames the Big Evil TV for making women think they are too good for him. Or something like that.
OP, number 1, actually put something in your profile if you want to meet someone here. 2, change the "type" of women you are looking for. If you keep finding the same type, you are doing something wrong. All women are not like you describe...apparently just the ones you are choosing. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:03:25 PM |
So what does this imply regarding the capability of many of todays women being able to enter into and sustaining meaningful relationships with men? TV is for people who want to turn off their brain, and just watch mindless entertainment.
FYI, the channel on UK TV that airs these shows, E4, used to actually SAY in their adverts for E4, that you should just stop thinking and watch mindlessly. It's something they are proud of.
If one wants to truly say what defines women as sex objects or non people, its got to be porn.Where women are portrayed as panting, wanton, ever ready sex machines, up for any violation of their bodies.Porn has been mentioned many times as a negative influence on mens perceptions of women. It's ironic that you say that. Porn is one of the most scripted programmes ever. Not just what they say, but practically every body movement is scripted. It's all pure acting. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:19:09 PM | | spoken for, youthinks too much but unfortunately your thoughts are over loaded with erroneous assumptions. In fact I am not seeking a woman because I'm involved with a terrific lady, the antithesis of a bimbo. So yes there are fine women available but very difficult to find in our current cultural climate that glorifies bimbos and the lifestyle they lead. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:28:14 PM | | CassaGo, the problem with your premise is that this depiction of women as bimbos is not only on reality shows but in films, TV ads and also exhibited in the behavior and attitudes exuded by a number of female rock singers. There is no doubt that adolescents and young women are very vulnerable to the bimbo antics of these "stars" but it is my impression that many women secretly (perhaps overtly) enjoy watching these programs. Otherwise why is there an expontential increased number of these shows being aired? | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:42:38 PM | Otherwise why is there an expontential increased number of these shows being aired?
It's all about PROFIT MARGIN.
These shows are very CHEAP to produce and don't need a large audience to MAKE MONEY.
They are profitable on a MUCH SMALLER AUDIENCE than a show with expensive lights, camera, actors, sets, graphics, sound, special effects, writers etc.
It's simple economics not really having much to do with what women want and enjoy.
So you can't get a pretty woman to be stupid enough to go out with you. That would be a bimbo - pretty and stupid. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:14:10 PM | You can't get a profit margin if NOBODY ISN'T BUYING!
People are buying into having the "attraction factor" more so in this age than any other past generation.
Plastic surgery is almost a must now. I sure didn't hear about compulsive plastic surgery 25 yrs ago. Who has real boobs...and who doesn't?? lol..those fat lips!
When the divorce rate is in the extreme orange rating...there are a heckuva lot of singles out there ...looking for the attraction connection. Dating sites are rampant...
Sooooo......what happens?
Trillions are spent on the "attraction" factor in any media venue. How to get it....
We do have to look at that. It's happening....It is real...very real.
If they can't be like the Brittney Spears et al..then they live vicariously through her and her attraction type. It is the reason for her popularity. I have heard way better singers than her.
What they don't get is that men will be attracted visually....yes...that is a given...but he is attracted to the mind/intellect, too. The mystery, the depth, the sensuality...
Look at the smoldering 30's stars...the 40's...the 50's....they were sexy, too...and Hollywood knew that. But they didn't go plasticky, bimboish and trashy to get the attention.
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Posted: 5/10/2009 8:12:18 PM | The people want this type of entertainment so it is given to them.
Just imagine if Romans were able to blog like this about their entertainment back then...
I am sure there are some who would have complained that there is nothing on the colosseum these days except lions killing Christians -- yet they go and still watch.
The fact is, way too many people enjoy this stuff.
So if you don't like it, turn off the TV.
I've lived a life now without television for about 5 years (save for the occasional documentary or news program). Just decide to turn it off. You will find so many new ways to entertain yourself. You will go out more... walk more. See and experience more.
I've given many years of my youth to the boob tube.
No more.
I holds no power over me and I am enjoying my life better than ever.
As for the bimboization of women... well, tough beans. Some posters said it best when they said women love watching this garbage too. So don't blame the guys. I know so many women who watch Desperate housewives.
Decide to turn off the tube... who knows, maybe you will get the man of your dreams one day when you are out walking.
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Posted: 5/10/2009 9:09:17 PM | I think part of the reason why some women enjoy these shows (and I'm guilty of being one of them sometimes because I like The Bachelor TV show), is sometimes they make us feel better about ourselves. We can watch a show like Bridezilla and think jeeze, what a crazy bride, that will NEVER be me!
I see most of these shows as silly, mindless entertainment. I don't take them that seriously and I certainly don't think most of us who watch them think that most women are like the idiots on these shows. These types of shows just seem to showcase a certain percentage of the human population, that's slightly retarded. I suppose men could make the same argument. How many sitcoms show them as bumbling idiots who can't make a simple decision without the help of a wife? I'm sure men resent these shows too, but many still watch them, because we just enjoy them as sitcoms and don't take everything in them, literally.
I like to watch shows like Law And Order, LOST, etc, because they show both men and women in positive lights and show both genders to be capable, intelligent beings. But sometimes, I still enjoy watching shows like The Bachelor, just to see which girls are the most "inept" ones.  | |
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Posted: 5/10/2009 9:19:54 PM |
Unfortunately the fact is that these shows are being aired because there is a large segment of women who watch and enjoy them.
Right.
Before them they had/have soap operas.
It's just a TV show...fantasy world. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 4:28:28 AM | Well, since you have such a problem with bimbos, why would you have such a problem with a woman who "thinks too much?" I thought that's what you wanted us to do?
The problem is that we are living in a "girls gone wild" society, and these young girls nowdays think that the way to get a guy's attention is to behave like the girls on those videos.
I just find it interesting that you want to blame "reality tv" for this, when stuff like girly magazines, "hot teen sorority girls" type porn, "girls gone wild" and that sort of trash has been around forever, and why? Because there's a MARKET for it. And guess who that market is? I will give you a hint: It's not women buying that crap.
There are as many men as there are women watching "reality" tv (which has nothing to do with "reality). When airhead Paris Hilton had that "reality" show, there were more guys where I work that watched it than there were women. Because she's so hawt, donchaknow. But I would bet my next paycheck that the large majority of "girls gone wild" videos are bought by men. So blame the "bimbo-ization" on the creators of that type of garbage, AND the people who keep him in business. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 4:31:59 AM | | LakeCountyGal, you are right...most of those shows are only good for getting a good laugh at the expense of the idiots on the show. Making fun of people who make asses of themselves on national tv is pretty fun, if there's nothing else on. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 4:39:56 AM | | deborah815, If you haven't realized by now, we are discussing the bimbo-ization of women NOT the bimbo-ization of men. If YOU wish to start a thread regarding the moron-ization of men please do so but right now try to focus on the theme of this thread. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 4:58:49 AM | spoken for, I hate to disillusion you BUT I have no problem with "a woman" who think too much BUT do have a problem with PEOPLE who are concrete and make premature and erroneous assumptions! For instance, in your previous post you assert " Methinks the OP can't get a date and needs to blame somebody for it so he blames the bigEvil TV for making women think they are too good for him." This statement is not an indication of a woman thinking too much BUT a woman who does not know what she is talking about!  | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 5:06:41 AM | Jim979, not so fast my friend. Obviously I haven't investigaged to determine if there are research studies to corroborate my postion and would present such data if it exists. However by your taking such global positions dismissing my points in their entirety implies that YOU possess information/data, other than your opinion and beliefs, that supports your contention and disproves mine! In fact the only thing you continue to do is yell "horse crap" without one iota of evidence to show that I am on the wrong track. I am open to your feedback but not your insistence based on your opinions not supportive facts, that you are correct and I am not. comfort, the burden of proof lies with you, you made the original hypothesis, that's what they call the scientific method and it's not really up for debate. Jim is dead on with his rebuttals, you're basically couching some repressed misogyny in the guise of anti reality show rhetoric. You didn't offer any proof to begin with you just presented some bitter emotional dregs as a hypothesis and then tried to shift the expectation onto others to prove you wrong. That's not how the real world conducts a rational discourse, that's how ministers of propaganda and third world tyrants operate.
You're on a rant here, but you sort of meander in your message. It's hard to determine if you're more angry with women because some of them are bimbos or angry with TV for reinforcing stereotypes (though your inordinate weighting of the anti tv attack on bimbo's as opposed to other stereotypes seems to give more credence the the repressed misogyny angle). TV is mostly mindless entertainment you seem to be attributing way more power to a tiny segment of the available choices than seems rational, but then this is your ax, so grind away.
BUT do have a problem with PEOPLE who are concrete and make premature and erroneous assumptions! this is a pretty odd statement give the nature of your OP.
deborah815, If you haven't realized by now, we are discussing the bimbo-ization of women NOT the bimbo-ization of men. If YOU wish to start a thread regarding the moron-ization of men please do so but right now try to focus on the theme of this thread. though totally ignoring the fact the OP has no basis in fact and is nothing more than a tabloid headline. You're apparently not allowed to make a comparative analogy because it detracts from the bimbo bashing.
The thing is men want hot women and are often made a fool of, in the pursuit of same hot woman.They then make threads about womens vapidity and grasping nature.Ignoring their role in their downfall. Diablera's point probably strikes pretty close to the underlying inspiration for this thread.
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Posted: 5/11/2009 5:42:37 AM | Totters in in finest slipper, wrestles a crabbit crocodile with big gnashers, smokes a cig, slays godzilla, drinks a quart of finest scotch whiskey with napalm chaser beats up 30 bad guys sulks a bit, rescues the damsel, after his elevenses muffins, and gallops of clipity clopity style into a golden sunset.
And ive just decribed a gabillion million films tv shows and feel you have little original point devoid of balance and indulgent in stereotypes.
As for reality shows its my preference not to like, nor watch them and indeed to hate them along with there forced portrayals.
Once upon a time
In a far distant land
there was a princess
wicked stole all her muffins and ate them all at the hurry up in his corner with a very big smile.
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Posted: 5/11/2009 6:08:51 AM | a_chris79 said:
Right.
Before them they had/have soap operas.
It's just a TV show...fantasy world.
This is by far the most sensible thing I've read with the fewest words utilized. 102480473478934 points.
oldsoul said:
I shut my TV years ago - literally. I've never seen one episode of I love Raymond or Desperate Housewives or any of the newer reality shows.
Women were always portrayed as bimbos in (most) sitcoms and specially in commercials (ohhh...look how white my clothes are...my womanhood is validated and I now have a reason to live)...*gag me with a spoon*....it's nothing new. And now men are complaining of the same thing "we" complained about for years but that too is nothing new.
My solution? Shut or throw away your TV, or at the very least, be very selective of the programs you do watch.
Boycott the products that have stupid commercials depicting men or women as bumbling idiots and the programs/network they promote - let them both know of your "protest".
Lastly, try not to take any of it too seriously - anyone who lets themselves be influenced by what's on TV needs to take a breath of fresh air IMO - I don't care what anyone says - our sense of wo/manhood and/or reality does not (and should not) come from an "idiot's box" NOR be affected or destroyed by it, unless a person closely resembles the first part of it's nickname perhaps, but that's another story:)
Throw away your t.v.? Yeah......that's the answer. Cut off the limb. Why can people simply be selective about what they..watch? Or how about that some people are going to either be intelligent and aware enough to differentiate fantasy and reality..
or they arent...
I just don't get it.....
The new savant is so riddled with "image" that it seems that it is easier to follow a "checklist" than to actually be intelligent.
Checklist:
Look down on people who utilize television as an escape from the mundane, thus giving you a right to rant on how the general populace is in possession of such a lilliputian amount of intellect that they all believe reality t.v. (Though you conveniently ignore the fact that before you can open your big orifice, you would have to FIRST WATCH ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS COMPLETELY BEFORE YOU COULD PASS JUDGMENT!) thus proving your superiority in your own mind?
Read trendy authors that other pseudo intellects claim that others should read but probably haven't read themselves?
CHECK!
Purchase a pair of square or horned rim black glasses?
CHECK!
Drive a Hybrid! Wait, can't afford one, so talk about how the republican camp rapes the economy so that you cant afford one?
CHECK!
Vegitarian/Vegan?
CHECK!
Sign on to every cokamamie<--not a typo liberal policy most of which are contradictions? (E.g. We want freedom of speech! but you can't use any slurs!)
CHECK!
Hate the white conservative male, yet secretly don't like blacks yourself, and have NEVER dated a minority?
CHECK!
Make sweeping generalizations about an American people that we should be working to educate as opposed to condemning them to a life of idiocy just because you feel you are better because you don't watch T.V.?
CHECK!
Dude, I'll admit that I am often vexed by my people's behavior, (Black people.)
But they are still my people.
If people spent more time leading by example, and educating by example, those "stupid people" who are glued to their TVs, wouldn't exist.
This is the problem: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO ENJOY THE ESCAPISM OF TELEVISION EXCEPT IN THE MINDS OF PEOPLE WHO FEEL AS IF THEY ARE SUPERIOR FOR NOT WATCHING IT.
I find a most delicious humor in that usually, a person ignorant enough to feel as if they are more intelligent simply because they do not watch tv.....is no more intelligent than the person they are condemning for watching tv in the first place.
sweetest said:
I see no such fascination. Shallow expectations, shallow thinking, and an even more shallow value system are rapidly debasing our culture. Shows like these are developed because their production costs are low compared to what it takes to put out quality programming. The business model supports the rapid rise of their ilk. If there is an outcry to be heard, it's being swallowed up by the sheer fact that there are far more out there for which a steady diet from the smorgasbord of people-behaving-badly TV is programming of choice--they're addicted.
Sweetest,
^SEE ABOVE COMMENT^
Cause Poor parenting has NOTHING to do with our lack of values.
BLAME THE TV, BLAME CANADA, BLAME THE PRESIDENT, BLAME THE MEXICANS, WE CANT BLAME THE BLACKS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DID BLAH BLAH!
Lack of a backbone is what is destroying this country. Lack of education as well; And a lot of other things; though I do not wish to speak finitely when there are an amalgam of affairs that leech sanity from the breast of America.
Jim978 said:
I didn't make a statement concerning anything correlated to the general population at all. I was pretty clear that my statement was related to "Most of the people I know...". Would you like their names/numbers so you can verify my statement?
YOU are the only person trying to make generalized statements about the overall population.
I am fairly certain he knows he did. One thing I’ve noticed; often times a person will make a post, not to open a discussion, rather to have people agree with what they believe to be true…so when presented with logic, they get very defensive.
You can’t miss these people as they wait for someone to drop a Logic bomb and find ways to pick it apart to fit their agenda, rather than considering that you might be right. They also point out grammatical errors (Paying no mind to their own.) and they will bring up conversations you had in other threads that do not relate to the one at hand.
EXAMPLE:
HYPOCRITE: “Ohhh you don’t know what you are talking about! I am right and you are wrong! “
Apainlessend: “Theeeeeeeennnnnn why did you make this thread if you knew you were right?
HYPOCRITE: “Ohhh yeah, like I am going to listen to a guy who said he liked Collin Powell in the other thread!!”
Apainlessend: “Umm what does that have to do with the discussion about the best flavor of corn nuts?
I’ve not finished reading all of this but I am willing to wager that Comfort123 has yet to admit that he ever made such a generalization.
Dave 1234 said:
I don't believe that. Look back at cartoons 50 years ago. Wile E. Coyote suffered indignities too numerous to mention. Buggs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. Sylvester and the Tasmanian devil. Foghorn Leghorn doing all sorts of nasty things to the dog.
And there was Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle. Check out the violence here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GoR5Dnzl4&NR=1)
Clubbing ones head. Poking ones eyes. Throwing them out windows. If cartoons had any impact whatsoever the entire baby boom generation would be locked up.
Is there any baby boomer who didn't watch Saturday morning cartoons?
THANK YOU!!!
Does anyone remember when foghorn leghorn was trying to bang that one chicken, but she had a child…a nerdy one, who reminds me of me?
Every single episode Foghorn insinuated that that kid was gay. because he was interested in science and philosophy rather than football.
This was perfectly acceptable forever ago
Programming hasn’t changed that dramatically when you average it with what is an is not acceptable by the CLOD of then and the FCC of now. A better question should have been why organized religion has anything to do with what we watch.
this is much more pressing of an issue, than why the general populace watches t.v. shows that Comfort123 doesn’t agree with. This is no different than the FCCTelling us what we should or should not watch.
T.v. hasn’t become more idiotic, we merely had morals, and a hand in raising our children then.
This is where someone googles CLOD, and becomes an instant aficionado.
vosche said:
tv has been like this since the infusion of reality tv
3 stooges, Mabel Normand, Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, Buster Keaton, Norman Wisdom, Charlie Chaplin, Laurel and Hardy,****van Dyke, the Keystone Cops, Laurel and hardy, AND Jackie Gleason continually threatened to beat the sh1t out of his wife.
Since the invention of television t.v. shows have depicted women as lesser beings and that they should want nothing more than to get married and be bare foot and pregnant. Think about all the sh1t The mary tyler more show got for her WEARING SLACKS.
Go back further…before the invention of television:
Shakespeare also incorporated many chase scenes and beatings into his comedies.
Again, it has become popular and trendy to say tv is bad. In order to critic something, you have to watch it and at very least attempt to understand it, before you pass judgment. I also have no doubt that the same people that make these finite comments about idiots who enjoy the stupid tv are likely trash tv fans themselves……
I compare this to people ranting on how awful RAP MUSIC IS when they nothing about the culture it emerged from. LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE!
The mindset of a person willing to condemn a person to idiocy over the programming they enjoy, is the same pseudo intelligent, elitist, arrogant, pompous B.S that a person who seems to think they are superior because they eat as certain restaurants, or read specific authors.
I ADORE KURT VONNEGUT! I LOVE AYN RAND, I LIVE FOR DOUGLAS ADAMS, and all of the beat writers, from Ken Kesy, and Tom Wolfe! And I have an almost intimate relationship with Hunter S. Thompson, and Timothy Leary...
Speaking of these authors amongst the arrogant and trendy faux savants, you are assumed to be "intelligent", Mention Stephen King and you are immediately just like everyone else.
comfort123 said:
Jim978, so in fact you don't have any substantive data to support your opinions or to disprove mine? Good start. In fact these TV shows, and there are many of them, are very popular and are generating hundreds of millions of dollars of income for their program sponsors and for you to merely brush them off as being irrelevant or personalizing the issue as if it is my issue, is entirely missing the significant impact that these TV shows have on many in our society.
I notice that you have yet to admit to Jim that you made a sweeping generalization about him and his statement, and immediately switched to your “agenda”. Wait, I thought this was about women?
Frau Blücher said:
So, if you don’t like the Bridezilla, Dr. Phillzilla, TMZzilla, Jackasszilla, or the Zilla in Manila, then make your NON-viewership speak for you and DON’T watch this schlock. It will still be an empty gesture, one that will be about as effective as farting into a Dorothy Gale Kansas cyclone and expecting it to “raise a stink”. However, I find that such tactics can lull me into a false sense of complacency and actually cause me to believe that I’m might be “making a difference”.
I absolutely adore logical, sensible people!
ChinaShopBull said:
A lot of the popularity of these "reality" shows is due to the feeling of superiority it gives it's audience. No matter how big of a loser you are, 5 minutes of Jerry Springer helps you realize just how bad things could be. One reality show I do like though, is the new one on VH-1... "Tough Love". Great show
So you admit t.v. Helps people? Nice.
fancynanci said:
Some men are afraid of smart women, which is really ashame
And some people like chicken more than pork. Sooooo? I don’t follow the relevancy.
comfort123 said:
spoken for, youthinks too much but unfortunately your thoughts are over loaded with erroneous assumptions. In fact I am not seeking a woman because I'm involved with a terrific lady, the antithesis of a bimbo. So yes there are fine women available but very difficult to find in our current cultural climate that glorifies bimbos and the lifestyle they lead.
As presented above, if reality tv didn’t exist you would have no one to call STUPID! Which is worse, a person being easily influenced by tv and environment, or you shamelessly insulting them for falling victim to programming? This topic is completely off tangent, and you are arguing just to argue!
“youthinks too much but unfortunately your thoughts are over loaded with erroneous assumptions. “
What the fukc? You keep making all of these nasty accusations about people which are both off tangent, and irrelevant to this topic, ANYTIME SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU, not over logical statements. (You are not reading any of this, if you are point it out by opening your response to me with the number 1.) So please, tell me how she is overloaded with “erroneous assumptions” ?which is a phrase that makes no sense I might add. If she believes something to be true, therein lies the soil that by which her assumption can flourish. What she believes to be true can be erroneous, not the “assumption.”
“concrete and make premature and erroneous assumptions!”
Pot kettle.
“premature and erroneous assumptions”
By your logic, if I pointed out your mass of misspelled terms, and misuse of grammar, you are one of the same people you are condemning.
Yet that would be a premature and erroneous assumption” as I don’t know you.
Chill dude, it aint that deep! This is one of the ONLY TWO threads you post on! This doesn’t appear to be a topic to be discussed by thinking adults who wish to come to a conclusion! This appears to be a thread that you are using to bring attention to you.<--- premature and erroneous assumption
You keep saying erroneous, OVER AND OVER again, and this is the equivalency of YELLING THE LOUDEST in order to win a debate.
If you are going to say a person is erroneous, then you should probably educate them as to why they are. I am willing to bet you just found the word in a thesaurus, and probably going to use it in posts after this continually to assert your dominance...online.
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Posted: 5/11/2009 6:29:17 AM | fun-inthe sun, WHAT? My "scholarly" friend this is a relationship forum that contains many disparate opinions and worldviews NOT one requiring absolute proof or the scientific method to justify one's perceptions and opinions! However based on your holding me to your exulted standard, if I am expected to use the scientific method to support my opinions and perceptions then every other poster on this forum, including YOU must do the same when they present their opinions and viewpoints including analyzing other posters' motives.
Obviously I started this thread and made the original statement, NOT a hypothesis, based on my observations which does not require the implementation of the "scientific method" or having the "burden of proof" on my shoulders because it obviously reflects my perceptions and opinions with the objective of initiating and generating feedback regarding this topic, no less, no more. However, if any poster such as Jim insists that I provide absolute proof to support my perspective while maintaining that they hold the ultimate truth, a position I never held, then the burden is on them to prove their point because I NEVER stated that my perceptions were absolute because in fact they are not! Getting the picture?
Now you alledge with incredible perspicacity (LMAO) that the actual reason for my starting this thread was to express misogynist sentiments. Well using the scientific method you are requiring from me ), the "burden of proof "is on YOU to substantiate your claim because you made this "hypothesis" and now are responsible for providing scientifically based proof to substantiate it(  )! Now if you would have asked me the rationale for my posting this thread I would have gladly provided it to you BUT instead drew erroneous conclusions thereby misinterpreting and misrepresenting my motives. Not very scientific my hypocritical friend .
So now lets discuss your motives (of course scientifically based ) for attempting to appear objective and "scientific" which in my OPINION (sorry no burden of proof or scientific methods are required) APPEARS (notice I did not draw absolute conclusions) to be your indirect way of expressing your anger and hostility towards a poster and a position that you don't like! I have no problem with your anger and hostility BUT with your method of delivery which in my opinion shows a lack of ........ you know what! | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 6:32:20 AM |
Go back further…before the invention of television:
Shakespeare also incorporated many chase scenes and beatings into his comedies.
Gee so we can include Chaucer and other purveyors of farce that used their ability to reach people through entertainment to address societal ills like beating women?
Since women and children were considered chattel until relatively recently in history, perhaps it is just comedy taking that grain of truth and magnifying it exponentially so maybe, just maybe, people start at least thinking about the elephant in the room and maybe on a good day, talking about.
Is it not equally logical to posit that normal young women see these people and think, I don't want to be like them and therefore don't act like bimbos?
Some men are threatened by intellgent accomplished women, duh, some men think they appreciate them but are actually threatened by intelligent accomplished women and then there are the men that are secure in themselves and truly cherish someone that is their equal.
People that are THAT influenced by television I will not likely be hanging with. People that expect me to behave with less intelligence than I possess are not worth my time. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 6:37:32 AM | | apainlessend, I hate to disturb you from your unending, circumstantial and ventilating rant BUT talking about "Chill dude, it ain't that deep", methinks that you should follow your own advice. In fact I don't think that this issue is so deep at all BUT apparently you do based on your unending rant. So slow down dude and relax because you "ain't" referring to me in your post but revealing yourself! | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 6:50:25 AM |
People that are THAT influenced by television I will not likely be hanging with. People that expect me to behave with less intelligence than I possess are not worth my time.
which poses a question: If a person is easily influenced, DOES WHAT INFLUENCES THEM FREAKING MATTER?!?
An easily influenced person can Join up with the NEONAZIS or the KKK, or any other idiotic hate filled organization. T.V. has nothing to do with that.
Again, more crap to further separate a people that should be working together to evolve.
Lead by example, do not condemn a person to a life of solitude because they can't think critically.
Which is worse, an innocent good hearted person who just happens to be afraid to think for themselves, or a person like comfort who assumes that everything is black and white and that they are better than said individual with little to know backing evidence.
People like that, make up their minds about certain things, and wont change them NO MATTER HOW ILLOGICAL THEIR SKEWED PERSPECTIVE IS! This is much more idiotic than a person who simply believes what they see with their own eyes.
comfort123 said
apainlessend, I hate to disturb you from your unending, circumstantial and ventilating rant BUT talking about "Chill dude, it ain't that deep", methinks that you should follow your own advice. In fact I don't think that this issue is so deep BUT apparently you do based on your unending rant. So slow down dude and relax because you "ain't" referring to me in your post but revealing yourself!
**sigh. this is the last you'll hear from me, as I've not need to argue with someone I pity. (It is the equivalency of arguing with the mentally disabled.)
I wanted to believe that you were merely passionate about a topic and merely misdirecting your energy. I normally would have marked you off as an idiot, and never have spoken in the first place. However, Madame Divagreen is slowly forcing me to believe in humanity, where before I had little to no faith in people like you.
Ignorance defined
Making a comment on a post, no making an "erroneous assumption" about a post, without even reading it.
Same as you make an "erroneous assumption" about t.v. programing without watching it.
HAD YOU ACTUALLY READ THE POST YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS:
apainlessend said:
(You are not reading any of this, if you are point it out by opening your response to me with the number 1.)
BUT YOU DIDN'T!
You saw your name mentioned, and didn't even bother reading it. You clicked reply with little to NO INFORMATION about me, or what I was saying, and you opened your big mouth.
This isn't about a discussion, this is about you needing attention.
You want people to accept your logic, but wont even read their posts.
I've seen several other posts in which you do the same thing.
If everyone came to this thread and just agreed with you wouldn't know what to do with yourself.
and I am sure that right now you are trying to think of a way to trump me somehow, save it. There is no reason you shouldn't be reading peoples post if you are going to respond to them.
What you just did is the equivalency of walking into a conversation, listening to 1 minute of it, not knowing the topic, and chiming in without knowing what anyone is talking about.
So how about this.
You are right, we are all wrong.
Close this thread.
K thanx.
p.s.
This is also where you pop up and try to derail my logic by changing the subject onto something that has nothing to do with the points that I have made.
But of course you don't read before you reply.
Mediocrity is much much worse than the innocence of ignorance. Guvf vf jurer fbzrbar fnlf: "Ncnvayrffraq, lbh guvax lbh ner fbbb fzneg"
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/11/2009 6:55:29 AM | | apainlessend, do you realize how inappropriate and angry you are coming across? I hope you do because whatever points you are attempting to make are negated by your overwhelming hostility that has nothing to do with me or this topic but apparently with YOU! Hope you feel better and please if you don't like this thread then don't read or respond to it. It is as simple and straightforward as that. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/11/2009 7:12:40 AM | I think there are shows that do the opposite.
How many movies and tv shows portray women scientists, forensic scientists, lawyers, attorneys, doctors, surgeons (CSI, NCSI, Law and Order, Grey's anatomy, House) who are both 'hot' and exceeding intelligent?
There are quite a few. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/11/2009 7:14:58 AM | More than ever there are more and more stong women figures on the big and small screen - the thing is with impressionable people (and children) to target programing aimed at thost things you want to make part of yourself, or your child. Shows like that are targeted to/by men they can't truely be made by not women. Men would like to see us needing them, less inteligent than them, and weaker then them. Lord please tell me your not brainwashing your children with those programs!
Try Zena, Smallville, plenty of shows have strong roles for women and there are more of them eveyday. You can't watch sick shows like sex in the city and complain about the fact its WAY out there, the actresses admitted they can't afford the fashions they were in film.
Hey I loved alien Ms. Weaver kicked A__ - she wasn't weak, stupid, or air headed. What shows are you watching? Aren't you boared out of your gaurd? | |
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