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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 4:45:59 PM | Packagedeal3x, quote: "...I think most people agree that I am a kind, compassionate.........................................and receptive poster.....""
Of course MOST people think that way because it is quite evident that you possess all of these characteristics because you told us so.
All kidding aside I am certain you are a good person, intelligent and quite attractive as well, and I mean that sincerely. Regards. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 5:34:09 PM | According to Spitfire, "No one else but you (Comfort) needs to provide any empirical evidence".
However, Spitfire previously asserted in reponse to the theme of this thread, " Judging by the responses on this thread (and by every reasonable analysis of real life) this phenomenon does not impact society the way you (Comfort) claim it does".
Spitfire let us stick with your comment above as an opener! YOU made a generalized counter claim above without one iota of "empirical" evidence except your opinion that does not disprove anything I stated! For your information my sagacious friend, if YOU are so certain I am incorrect and make a statement that says as much, I can expect that you provide substantive proof, other than your opinion, that disproves it! And by your countering that ONLY I must provide this proof is poppycock.
In fact you are infantilizing participants on this thread and treating them like dolts by expecting them to believe that because a poster who initiates a thread based on his beliefs and opinions , who never claimed to have a hold on the absolute truth regarding this topic, is SOLELY responsible for providing empirical data to support his position while YOU don't. In short in any debate the party who holds that their opposition's opening statement is invalid is responsible for proving their assertion is accurate and if they don't then their counter claims and assertions are spurious.
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 5:51:20 PM |
Judging by the responses on this thread (and by every reasonable analysis of real life) this phenomenon does not impact society the way you (Comfort) claim it does
The empirical evidence is in the observation, "...reasonable analysis of real life...", therefore, the aforementioned Spitfire has, in fact, provided her empirical data. Her observations are the data, her opinion is her analysis of the data.
This entire thread is opinion-based. As such, the opinions are neither correct nor incorrect--they are simply opinions.
And this quote:
As has been stated by many posters here, people shape their own worlds and their own levels of interaction and respectability. What the media shows or doesn't show is not the determining factor as regards the quality of life of each individual. Each person's everyday reality reflects his/her own priorities and values.
sums things up nicely. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 6:29:38 PM | geeleebee, valid points! I totally agree that this entire thread has been opinion-based and therefore the opinions are neither correct nor incorrect but are simply opinions. However, whether some opinions have more weight than others has not been established because neither I or any poster has taken the time to review the research literature to discern if there is substantive data available to support one position over the other.
In regard to individuals shaping their own worlds this is a given BUT does not lead to the generalized negation of the power of the media, as well as from other external forces, to impact on this shaping process and in my opinion it does. We do not form our everyday perceptions of reality solely from our internal experiences or in a vacuum but from the confluence of myriad external influences, such as parental values and worldviews, as well as those from teachers, mentors and other intrinsic life experiences that are integrated and meshed into our unique perception of reality. The media in its varied forms is one of these external factors and can be instrumental in contributing to the values and worldviews of individuals, sometimes positively, other times neutral and in certain circumstances, deleteriously. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 6:59:13 PM | | OP, quit trying to divert attention onto what I said, and answer my questions I asked in my last post to you. How do you figure that women watching "reality" tv is responsible for the "bimbo-ization" of women, when it really started with Hef and his ilk, all those years ago, and has escalated to the point that you can buy videos of teenage girls on spring break, acting like sluts because that's what they think they are supposed to do? I don't think it was "dancing with the stars" or "survivor" that caused it, somehow. And it's NOT women buying that trash, it's MEN. So how praytell, is the advent of "women watching reality tv" causing us to be bimbos? I really want to know how you came to your brilliant deduction. | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 7:36:45 PM | I watch crime dramas, mixed martial arts, cooking shows, and comedy. I caught a glimpse of Bridezillas not so long ago and I actually felt sorry for the knuckleheads that just stood by and let these monsters rant all through the show and put them down. I would rather watch a whodunnit or watch someone get their ass beat than watch women put themselves down by coming out on these shows and showing the whole world how pathetic they look on television.  | |
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| The bimbo-ization of women and its effects on relationships
Posted: 5/14/2009 8:07:45 PM |
geeleebee, valid points! I totally agree that this entire thread has been opinion-based and therefore the opinions are neither correct nor incorrect but are simply opinions. However, whether some opinions have more weight than others has not been established because neither I or any poster has taken the time to review the research literature to discern if there is substantive data available to support one position over the other.
An opinion doesn't need to be 'weighted'. It is simply an opinion. There is no 'substantive data' required--just a synapse or two to form said opinion.
In regard to individuals shaping their own worlds this is a given BUT does not lead to the generalized negation of the power of the media, as well as from other external forces, to impact on this shaping process and in my opinion it does.
See there? No substantive data required--you had an opinion, and you expressed it.
We do not form our everyday perceptions of reality solely from our internal experiences or in a vacuum but from the confluence of myriad external influences, such as parental values and worldviews, as well as those from teachers, mentors and other intrinsic life experiences that are integrated and meshed into our unique perception of reality. The media in its varied forms is one of these external factors and can be instrumental in contributing to the values and worldviews of individuals, sometimes positively, other times neutral and in certain circumstances, deleteriously.
Yeah. That's obvious. | |
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