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 Twilightslove

Joined: 12/9/2008
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Posted: 7/12/2009 8:03:40 AM
I just ran across this old 60 minute show about the 1976 Swine Flu. I thought perhaps someone might want to see it.

http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6636
 bugsbro

Joined: 10/4/2008
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Posted: 7/12/2009 10:38:54 AM
swine flu is all about media hype.the numbes clearly indicate that it's far less deadly than the regular versions. more people have died from the bath tub than swine flu in this country. regular flu killed more soldiers in ww1 than fighting did, yet a few cases of swine flu break out and its armageddon. it's clearly a diversion from our economic woes and our failures in the middle east.
 membrane

Joined: 8/12/2008
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Posted: 7/12/2009 6:36:29 PM
hahaha, swine flu is just another flu, just a little more bad ass than the rest... if you are strong and healthy you have nothing to worrie, and if you are not.. run for the hillz...

and i believe that the three top killers on earth are

#1 stupidity
#2 religion
#3 and the scramble for power
 Single_in_ H_town

Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 54
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Posted: 7/12/2009 6:41:38 PM
swine flu is just another SCAM

they make vaccines to make cash, and using the media to continue fear works alot

honestly, I fear getting attacked by a shark ALOT MORE then some crap overblown non dangerous deadly virus.
 membrane

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Posted: 7/12/2009 7:32:02 PM
it is not a scam... it is over plublicized, but... i know people who knew the girl who died of it in calgary.. it is here, and it is killing... but, there is no reason to fear, unless it mutates into a human killing mashien, like what it does to pigs
 Single_in_ H_town

Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 56
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Posted: 7/20/2009 1:28:02 PM
common cold though KILLS far more people then swine and yet we dont hear about massive problems comming from that.
 Mojo4Free

Joined: 6/23/2009
Msg: 57
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Posted: 7/20/2009 1:58:03 PM
1. Numbers are vastly under reported.
2. WHEN it mutates, it can go one of two ways;
- Good mutation: Big Deal.
- Bad Mutation: A Very Big Deal. Hold on to your hat folks.
3. There's always a second wave in the fall.

I have a few connections in the Health Industry and they are very worried about it. What they worry the most about is how it hits the healthiest (the immune system goes into overdrive and drowns the victim). Look at it this way, mild cases that are hospitalized still require respirators (that means they can't breathe on their own and would probably die without it.). Ask yourself how many respirators are in your local hospital?

And no... it's not a NWO conspiracy to reduce the population.lol.
 Single_in_ H_town

Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 58
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Posted: 7/20/2009 7:07:44 PM
swine is not a major threat

but you know what, you can imagine it is all you want

when pigs fly Lol
 cinsav

Joined: 6/10/2009
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Posted: 7/20/2009 7:20:13 PM
You want something to be seriously concerned about - be concerned about small pox. While the media likes to hype up anthrax (which is deadly, but not contagious), or swine flu which isn’t overtly lethal in most cases, small pox is a much, much greater threat.
 Single_in_ H_town

Joined: 6/14/2009
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Posted: 7/20/2009 11:17:18 PM
true but the same can be said of so many things in life

fleas, ticks,lice,parasites,germs,viruses,fires,bad food, and it goes on

we can go threw life fearing everything, and not living, or suck it up and live life

I dont sweat the small stuff, and to me just about everything that media says is small stuff
 gtintto

Joined: 7/29/2006
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:01:47 AM
swine flu is a joke it is the same old virus they released in the 70's it is a ploy to have the planet microchipped , with the so called vaccination, fear is a great motivator ....the biggest worry we have now is the planet, meaning it is trying to get rid of us, with these new virus' that are resistant to anti biotics and the natural disasters are increasing as we have done nothing but rape here of her resources, as oil is her blood and diamonds are here kidneys, people are led by greed and never think that she is alive and breathes and gets upset...
 Single_in_ H_town

Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 62
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Posted: 7/21/2009 1:08:43 PM
you know, that may sound like nonsense, but I think you are right on the money on this one.
 yna6

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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:32:44 PM
It is a flu....it can and does kill. It can and will mutate. We can innoculate or not....I'd prefer to.
Spanish flu went around the planet twice and killed more soldiers during WW1 than enemy fire did. It also killed a lot of civilians all over the planet. This flu is comparable. We have more tolerance towards the various flu bugs now...but this one is a total b*tch to keep at bay.
Sure...younger people need not worry too much...yet...unless it mutates. But older people and babies and people with lowered immune systems need to watch it real close.
Already the natives are screaming about gov't not doing enough to stop it in their areas. Seems they have been taking a high level of mortality rates.
"Biggest threat ever"? I don't think so...but it could be if it mutates enough. This fall is going to be a tough time as it is...just have to wait and ride through it.
 Twister239

Joined: 6/21/2009
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Posted: 7/21/2009 8:08:06 PM
Just my opinion but I suspect something more sinister going on
It involves the Illuminatti , Buiderburg group , NWO , FEMA
and the recommendations on the Georgia guidestones.
Could this be the first swipe at de-populating the earth to make future transitions easier ?

Seems I am not the only one with these type of thoughts
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14276
 JTaylor2012

Joined: 4/10/2009
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Posted: 7/21/2009 11:33:08 PM
OMG I DON'T WANT TO BE TURNED INTO A SWNE!
Just kidding! It has to do with Baxter and their production of the swine flu virus. It usually takes six months to produce a viable vaccine and they had one a couple months after the initial scare... It all has to do with money in the end. BILLIONS of worthless paper, compared to a human life. Most of the people that died usually had some other medical problem that was then worsened by the flu. From what I've seen, as long as you are healthy, then you should be fine. Just make sure to wash your hands more than normal and don't sneeze on people.
 Twister239

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Posted: 7/22/2009 8:29:22 AM

Just make sure to wash your hands more than normal and don't sneeze on people.


That seems like the proper thing to do....keep the hands clean

I went to pick up my brother at an internation airport a few weeks ago
while waiting and people watching I thought its best I sanitize my hands
walk around the airport looking for hand sanitizer..none
went into the washroom and found none as well..just soap...
so I went looking for an airport employee and found one
asked where the hand sanitizer was and found out they dont have any
she took me back to her office and gave me some off of her desk ..

I thought isnt this something...
flu pandemic and a international airport with no hand sanitizer
I did file a complaint however but I doubt it did any good.
 hellgremlin

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Posted: 7/22/2009 8:39:34 AM
I've seen the Guidestones up-close - the advice they carry is wisdom beyond the ages.

As an aside, it would seem that swine flu has now mutated, and is resistant to the only treatment available, Tamiflu:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090722/h1n1_090722/20090722?hub=TopStories

Hand sanitizer and things like that only accelerate its mutation into a more resistant form, and interrupt your immune system from getting a chance to raise its own defences - your best bet for surviving if this becomes a full-blown global plague, is to catch it good and early, so your body knows how to respond with effective antibodies.

I'm off to lick some public transit bus handrails.
Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 7/22/2009 1:18:53 PM

I thought isnt this something...
flu pandemic and a international airport with no hand sanitizer
I did file a complaint however but I doubt it did any good.

This is proof that advertising works and people are to lazy to educate them selves.

Hand sanitizer is no more affective than regular soap.

Antibacterial soap is no more affective that regular soap.

As the above poster pointed out, these antibacterial products do more harm than good and actually accelerate the rate of stronger and more resistant bacteria from developing.

All antibacterial products should be banned.
 Spider43

Joined: 6/29/2009
Msg: 69
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Posted: 7/22/2009 2:00:53 PM
I concur with the above post. The fact that we have oversanitzed the environments of babies and young children ( I blame mothers and Madison Ave.) antibiotics have become less and less effective,
The first person here in canada has succumbed to resistant strain of h1n1 virus so it is possible the mutation is underway.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/07/21/montreal-quebec-man-swine-flu-drug-resistant.html?ref=rss
 Twister239

Joined: 6/21/2009
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Posted: 7/22/2009 2:57:10 PM

I'm off to lick some public transit bus handrails

ya I can see it all now...people fighting for the discarded kleenex in the trash
so they can wipe someones snot on thier lips to get healthy..lol

This is proof that advertising works and people are to lazy to educate them selves.

No James..all it shows is that you assume to much
I was refering to the "hand sanitizers" that dont require trips into the washroom to wash with soap, water and towels....ya know....something for people on the go...like in hospitals , senior centers , doctors offices....squirt and go.
myself personaly I dont mind washing my hands
I even do it after I pee and touch the urnal handle..
sounds like perhaps you prefer not to..thats your choice.
I am not talking about living in a plastic bubble
but an international airport should have something
for the people to make up thier own mind during these times
 Earthpuppy

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Posted: 7/22/2009 3:55:06 PM
Pandemics, whether from flu, plagues, recessive genes, or a myriad of causes and reactions have long been with us and other creatures on earth. Major population crashes are now occurring among numerous species. Our human experiment with anti-biotics is only 80 years old, since the last flu pandemic. That experiment is coming to a close as we feed daily on anti-biotics in our food chain and those small, but powerful predators evolve and move well past the last round of flu-shots. It is only a matter of time before our numbers are brought down by the "meek", the smallest of creatures, who may inherit the earth. It's quite humbling to get a "typical" ringworm from the horses that takes 4 regimens of anti-biotics before it is finally defeated. My dad died of a pneumonia virus that could not be defeated, one he was exposed to in the Mayo Clinic, the temple of human folly in thinking we are above the "meek" who prey upon our weakened species. Get over yourselves. Something microscopic is capable of knocking us down to our knees, and they outnumber us, out compete us, and out-evolve us.
 novascotialass

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Posted: 7/22/2009 6:05:46 PM

As the above poster pointed out, these antibacterial products do more harm than good and actually accelerate the rate of stronger and more resistant bacteria from developing.


While this statement could be true, the swine flu is a virus and as such is not treatable by antibiotics, so it's not relevant to the case in point. The anti-viral medication used to combat Swine flu might become less effective as the virus mutates (I know there are handful of such cases), but using antibacterial soap or regular soap will not have any effect on our ability to combat the Swine flu. Having clean hands, though, might keep the virus spreading, so in that sense it is important

Note also that it is highly unrecommended to purposefully contract this virus early on because you don't know how your body will react to it. I read that advice in a health column recently because some women were purposefully exposing their kids to the virus.
 Twister239

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Posted: 7/24/2009 7:06:55 PM
I was watching CNN earlier and Lou Dobbs was talking about this . He was told 2 BILLION people will be infected within 2 years and that the WHO no longer wants doctors to record stats on this flu...perhaps to stop panic . Seems to be hitting kids more then the adults ,altho the age range is starting to rise as it progresses....this is going to be a nasty one from the sounds of it.
Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 7/24/2009 7:20:58 PM

I was watching CNN earlier and Lou Dobbs was talking about this . He was told 2 BILLION people will be infected within 2 years and that the WHO no longer wants doctors to record stats on this flu...perhaps to stop panic . Seems to be hitting kids more then the adults ,altho the age range is starting to rise as it progresses....this is going to be a nasty one from the sounds of it.


Natures way of thinning out the heard.

If your immune system is not up to snuff, either due to lack of effort on your part to take care of it, or just genetics, its going to be a sh*tty ride.
 monalee1

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Posted: 7/24/2009 7:38:17 PM
hi... I have a few thoughts to share, not really looking for a debate, just take or reject as you see fit.......... do not get vaccines, ever.... eat high raw organic food, cut down on animal products... drink distilled reverse osmosis water, cook with it too or at least Britta cooking water.... quit smoking, do not do street drugs, try not to take prescription pills, alcohol or fake foods in excess, this includes coffee and non herbal teas...... exercise, breathe ocean air several times in a yr, get sunlight each day, pray and rest.. invest in loving relationships.... as each new crisis happens we will be in a better state, mind, body and soul... many blessings
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