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| Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 8/6/2009 5:41:05 AM | Mojo4free, I didn't really see the relevance to immigration, but if you're looking for evidence that nations meet to discuss world issues don't forget the Bilderberg group. You just made my point on the education bit.
The relavence is decreasing the population, be it by injection or any other way is bad for the economy. As for the Bilderberg group, why don't you tie in David Icke? That way you can mention that the Bilderbergers are controled by Alien Reptiles. lol. Seriously. | |
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| Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 8/6/2009 9:00:04 AM |
As for the Bilderberg group, why don't you tie in David Icke? That way you can mention that the Bilderbergers are controled by Alien Reptiles. lol. Seriously.
Freemasons , illuminatti and Bilderbergs are imaginary ?
or they get together to just talk baseball cards ?
in Virginia 2008 during the last Bilderberg confrence
the presedent of AP tried to sneek in
because he believed the world needs to know about these meetings
he was grabbed by 2 security guards and escorted outside the gates
These people are the REAL DEAL
never mind local goverment , Putin or Obama
they are mere puppets of the Bilderbergs and the NWO | |
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| Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 8/6/2009 12:37:50 PM | "You just made my point on the education bit."
Because I asked you the relevance to using an untried vaccine? A bit harsh. Just because we do not agree, do not assume that you are any position to know fact from fiction. Unless you are privy to what goes on in these Bilderberg meetings you cannot say for sure. The fact that no-one knows what goes on at these meetings of politicians, leaders and businessmen makes me sceptical.
"The relavence is decreasing the population, be it by injection or any other way is bad for the economy."
I'm not entirely sure they are trying to cull, but it would be good for economy if these flu's were to rid us of an ageing poulation who put a strain on our resources and put little back into it. Not to mention the strain the recession has put on governments including unemployment.
The vaccine's are a multi-billion pound business and the government is invested in it.
Maybe the world is protecting it's resources and we are over-populated? Who knows, but to simply brush it off because it does not compute with what you have been told all these years is small-minded IMO. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:09:36 PM | get ready boys and girls , our time to deal with this is coming soon
seems Mexico , US and Canada are about to make announcments
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5756XU20090806 | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:18:32 PM | The vaccine's are a multi-billion pound business and the government is invested in it.
Wow, that's really heavy! It would take some kind of kick ass forklift to get that business off the ground wouldn't it? 
Experts expect the flu will pick up activity in the northern hemisphere's autumn and the WHO predicted one third of the world's population -- 2 billion people -- will eventually become infected.
Please...since when are Pete Townsend and pals experts on the flu?  | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:09:32 PM | Canada ordered 50.4 million doses from a company in Quebec
doesnt sound to me like they even know what they are going to do yet
I heard it was going to be 3 shots
now they are saying 2...but maybe 1
" It is thought, though, that older adults - who seem less vulnerable to the virus - may be able to get by with only one dose. And Butler-Jones said because Canada is likely going to be using vaccine containing an adjuvant - a compound that boosts its potency - there is reason to believe one dose may suffice across all age groups.
He explained the federal math this way:
There are 33.6 million Canadians. The federal pandemic plan suggests authorities should bank on 75 per cent of Canadians wanting or needing vaccination. With 50.4 million doses, 75 per cent of Canadians could each get two doses.
But if only one dose is needed for some or all Canadians, different formulas could come into play.
The order size obviously allows for one dose for 100 per cent of Canadians, or one dose for all and a second dose for 50 per cent of the population, if studies show some people need two doses, Butler-Jones said "
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090806/national/flu_vaccine_canada
Yikes...these people scare me !
seriously | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:18:23 PM | | 75% of the population wanting the vaccine seems like a really high estimate to me. I won't be wanting one and neither will most people I know. I hardly know anyone that has ever had a flu vaccination except for a few really old people. They're probably ordering so many so they can scalp them to the panicked Americans for twice the price. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:31:14 PM |
They're probably ordering so many so they can scalp them to the panicked Americans for twice the price.
I remember when they did that several years ago
I was living in Hamilton and all the clinics were making a killing (no pun)
selling vaccines to the americans for $50 to $75 a shot.
I am not getting one either
I just dont like the fact they declared this a pandemic
that changes everything when it comes to freedoms and rights
as seen in Greece where everyone is getting the shot
"no exceptions" they say
just hope they dont say that here because that will start things falling apart
and like boots and hearts....when it starts
it really falls apart...
fuggem...they can come find me in the mountains
and they better be a better shot then I am | |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 5:23:08 AM | The 2 reasons why i won't be taking a flu vaccine are:
1) It hasn't been properly tested
2) I believe that Swine Flu has been way over hyped by the media, and that it's no worse than any other flu.
Regardless of whether you believe in conspiracy theories or not, those 2 facts are undeniable. Let other people be guinea pigs if they want to, I'll take my chances with the flu thank you very much. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 8:17:39 AM | well its been a week since the leaders of North America,got together and had a summit.
I wonder when they are going to tell us about thier plans for vacinnate the masses
why havent they said anything...HELLO ??????
is it a big secret or something...what the hell !!
kids are starting to get ready for school
and we still dont have a official plan to deal with this.
well......that they are telling us anyways.
But they know.....dont they..lol
ASHHOLES....speak to your people !!! | |
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| Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 8/15/2009 9:49:09 AM | Twister, their meeting was supposed to mostly address swine flu, not the planned immigration.
Subsequently though, the majority was on Obama's drive for overhauls to U.S. health care and immigration policy.
More people will now be focussing on the health care and not too concerned about swine flu. A nice distraction. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 12:43:18 PM | | I have a friend who works for Baxter who say they have created a vaccine that has been tested and is ready to go. I still wont be taking it. I plan to stay away from pigs(the real and human ones) hehe. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2009 1:28:37 PM | The reason it got so much hype and caused such a stir was because we initially did not know what the virus was. All we knew was that it had killed some people and it was spreading...and with past epidemics such as the black plauge, we take every precaution possible.
After examining the virus and finding out its just basically a derivative of common influenza is when the media should have calmed down about it. There was still some buzz about H1N1 though because it mutated so quickly, and if it was able to mutate that fast, would it do it again? If it does, will the product be more dangerous?
To give you an idea about how serious outbreaks like this are, the US government employs scientists "Virus hunters" and sends them out to any part of the globe that has an abnormal outbreak and they contain it there. Why does the government do it? Because if its not contained we'll see it on america's doorstep within a short period of time.
Just take swime flu for example. Started in mexico and within 3 days it was in the middle east, canada, new zealand. imagine if it was something like anthrax.
This stuff is nothing to **** around with, people.
Sincerely,
Microbiology major.
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Posted: 9/4/2009 8:08:34 AM | | can lysol spray help? i am taking night classes and people are sneezing all over me and wiping the table with their hands or sneezing over the computer keyboards. i heard on fox news and cnn that the vaccine will go to the following first: healthcare workers, seniors, school kids and police/firefighters. the people will have to take flu and h1 vaccines at the same time (2 shots). i will just have to start carrying my Lysol and spraying when folks are coughing and sneezing around me instead of covering their faces. if i have to hurt some feelings to protect myself, then too bad. i cannot afford to miss work. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 11:22:35 AM | | ^ Washing your hands regularly and covering YOUR face would probably be a better idea. Go pick up some masks if you are that worried. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 1:17:28 PM | | I make a concerted effort to not touch my face unless i have just washed them. I disinfect the pc at work before I use it. I do plan on getting vaccinated. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 7:09:49 PM | | Well there's nothing like a lot of fearmongering to boost the bottom line of those involved with PHARMa. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 7:25:54 PM | | It's also interesting to note that the drug companies making this vaccine demanded and GOT complete tort immunity from any adverse reactions to the vaccine. Hmm.. That will be of great comfort to anyone who suffers any neurological damage as a result of the jab. Thanks but no thanks. Personally, I think government is the greatest threat and not swine flu. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2009 7:18:05 AM | I watched seniors lining up for inexpensive swine flu shots yesterday, wondering how the first wave will fare.
A friend of mine sent the following observations. I see Gulf War Veterans in all manner of suffering at the VA.
"I know many of us are concerned about Swine flu and how to protect our families and loved ones. I have been educating myself about this flu as well as risks associated with the vaccine that is planned for release in October, targeting our school children first, and want to share some of my thoughts with you.
The biggest concern I have is with the use of squalene in the current vaccinations. Squalene is a naturally occurring oil, found in the human brain, joints, and other places, but is never found in the blood stream. The problem, according to many health experts, comes when it is injected into the blood stream. This injection triggers the body to create antibodies to attack the oil, in affect an auto-immune storm response is set up within the body, where the auto-immune system is triggered to attack the squalene. But the body won't just target the squalene found in the blood, it will also start attacking its own nervous system and joints.
There are numerous studies of this squalene/auto-immune connection from the anthrax vaccination, used on Gulf War soldiers in the early 1990s, as the anthrax vaccination also contained the oil, squalene. It is believed by many health experts to be the causitive factor in the wide variety of symptoms that were called collectively "Gulf War Syndrome," a debilitating and sometimes deadly set of auto-immune disease responses present in a large number of U.S. military personnel who served during the first war in Iraq.
The following statement comes from one such study: “The substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene,” noted a Tulane Medical School study published in Experimental Molecular Pathology. “In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene.” The study has been challenged, but it is still widely cited.
Another study published in the American Journal of Pathology highlighted problems with the use of the substance as well. One injection of squalene into rats led them to develop what humans know as rheumatoid arthritis, or “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation."
According to countless medical professionals and experts, using squalene in immunizations is a bad idea. It is also going to be somewhat experimental. There isn’t a single vaccine containing squalene that is approved for use in America, according to Meryl Nass, M.D., who notes that Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline will make use of it as a “novel feature of the H1N1 vaccines.”
Please view the attached youtube file in which Dr. Laibow explains why injecting squalene is so dangerous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE2YPVR9Jvw&NR=1
I believe there is enough concern here to reasonably determine that we don't want to inject our families, loved ones and ourselves with this potentially lethal vaccination. We do have many safe and viable options to protect ourselves from the flu and other viral or bacteria diseases. I am putting together a list of suggested alternatives and am happy to answer questions you have about how to protect yourselves and your loved ones.
My fervent hope is that you will further educate yourselves on your options and choose to act out of knowledge and not fear. Since beginning the writing of this email to you, I have put together a letter of alternative therapies that are wonderfully powerful in protecting us from illness. Please read the attached file and call me if you'd like me to put together an herbal wellness kit for you and your family. God has given us a bounty of what I call God's Medicine and it is safe, effective and truly powerful.
Wishing you the blessings of health and wellness,
Pamela ..............." | |
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| Swine flu the biggest threat EVER
Posted: 9/5/2009 8:54:07 AM |
Squalene is a naturally occurring oil, found in the human brain, joints, and other places, but is never found in the blood stream.
Squalene is produced in the liver and is distributed through the bloodstream, and is used by our bodies in the creation of cholesterol, steroids, and vitamin D. That the author of this letter is unaware of this basic fact (I learned this in my first physiology course), sort of sheds doubt on the credibility of their medical advice.
Also, the adjunct in the Anthrax vaccine was aluminum hydroxide.....not squalene. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2009 3:00:09 PM | | i have learned alot being on this board. but, i will take have to take my chances anyway...i will get my shot. this is the same thing people are arguing about with the vaccinations that is causing kids to be autistic. there's too many doctors and not enough of nurses. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2009 8:51:53 PM | "If you've spent more than a few minutes worrying about swine flu, you are an idiot. That's because it only takes a few minutes to look up the symptoms, mortality rate, and treatment to realize that it's no different from the common flu (which kills way more people and by extension is way more awesome), and going back to whatever it is you were doing, which was probably turning off CNN and canceling your cable subscription.
Which leads me to why swine flu is stupid. If I were to worry about anything—and I don't—swine flu would be pretty near the bottom of the list.
For those of you still not convinced that swine flu is bullshit, here's a list of symptoms for swine flu versus the regular flu:
The Flu:
- Fever
- Runny nose
- Sore throat
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Coughing
- Diarrhea
- Lack of apetite
Swine Flu:
- Fever
- Runny nose
- Sore throat
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Coughing
- Diarrhea
- Lack of apetite
See no difference? That's because there is no difference. Quit closing schools down every time someone gets swine flu!
The problem isn't swine flu, but people talking about it. Remember SARS? More bullshit. Fewer than 800 people died from it worldwide. Yet the news networks prattled on about it for months. Now the slow news cycle lends itself to talking about swine flu ad nauseum even though there's already a vaccine for it.
I will never take the swine flu vaccine because I already have it; it's called my immune system, and it's badass. I have never gotten sick in my life. My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal. Your best defense against getting swine flu is to be me. Your second best defense is to have me cough in your face." | |
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