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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/28/2009 11:14:33 PM | | well, i think a lot depends on the guy himself. For example, im a very tall but skinny guy, im very much underweight for my height/age, and so an "average" woman to a 6 ft 200lbs guy is probably going to strike me as overweight. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/29/2009 8:59:28 AM |
75% of the women on this freak show dating site put down under body type: average or a "few" pounds overweight. A "few" pounds means 5 maybe 10 pounds over. NOT 40 to 70 pounds. Are you women that blind or just that stupid??
Don't you have a mirror in your house?
Well you put that in the rudest possible way, so in that case I suggest that you go find your own mirror Mr Sag! | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/29/2009 4:12:36 PM | They put "average" because all of their friends and family are overweight too, so they think that's the average . lmao  | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/29/2009 4:43:17 PM | surely im shirley. Agree with you and sagman yes sometimes the truth hurts.
Friends say things to make you happy, sorry about that. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 12:44:20 AM | I would love to get some feed back from men and women on this question. Why is it that once we are divorced, and single again that weight of a prospective date becomes so important? I mean when I met my husband I was 5'9" and weighed 125 lbs. I looked like an AIDS victim! He was thin and had some buff to him. As we both aged and got comfortable together, secure in our relatioship, I had two children, I ate brownies again. He drank a few beers, ate more and stopped gopign to the gym and his great rear end just disappeared! But... I still found him just as attractive (if not more), still wanted him like before and the feeling was mutual. I know he did not, and I did not just get lazy, we were comfortable and secure with one another. I di not love him any less and likewise. So why is it that a wife or husband can love the size 18 wife they had (that was an 8 when they married) and stay for 20 years. But the minute they get single, they EXPECT the next woman to be an 8 also? Or visa-versa. I mean get real folks, people over 40-45 are never going to be what we were at 21 again. Unless you are just blessed with miracle genes or you spend 12 hrs a day at the gym and starve yourself! Women get the saddlebags ( it's how we're made), we get the stretch marks because we have the babies, our hips get wider so we can have those kids. Our breasts go South from feeding or having those children for you. Men can have grey hair, a few lines and lose their tush and they look "distinguished". So maybe you get your wish, and you score that 25 yr old MS. Hardbody.. then what? can you keep up? What the heck do you talk about - Woodstock? You're thinking about your 401K and they are thinking about what to wear out next weekend to the dance club!
Bottom line, I need to know why the rules change? Why is the weight thing such a deal breaker for most people? What happened to those men who thought Marylin Monroe was sexy and she had a tummy, hips and saggy breasts - and was like a size 16? Sophia Loren was gorgeous and she was no skinny girl - men thought she was a sex symbol. Is every one buying into the advertsing, marketing mentality about what is sexy? I'm 5'9" and wear a size 18 - but I look healthy now! So enlighten me folks - where is the cut off point between average and overweight now days? | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 2:10:15 AM |
What happened to those men who thought Marylin Monroe was sexy and she had a tummy, hips and saggy breasts - and was like a size 16? Sophia Loren was gorgeous and she was no skinny girl - men thought she was a sex symbol.
Dateless, there are plenty of us that do not like skinny. You are so right about Marilyn Monroe and Sophia Loren. For me it is not so much of what the weight of a woman is; It's more of where that weight is that will turn my head. For me, I like well rounded hips, rear, and thighs in proportion to their upper torso. no that does not mean large breasts necessarily. There are some women that are to skinny up top in proportion to her lower body. Then there are those that are built with a very thick, broad upper body with no hips, thighs or rear end. It's not their fault, it's in the genes. However, we all have a preference to what will appeal to us.
For me, I find a woman with a few extra pounds much more attractive then a woman that is skinny. I'd take Marilyn any day over Twiggy. As someone else said, "it's all in how they carry it". But I for one... prefer some extra baggage to handle. lol It's all about shape, not dress size or weight.
At any weight or dress size, if a woman does not have curves, no rear end ( no waist to hip/thigh curves) and might be mistaken for a man from the rear, I just don't find it attractive or sexy. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 3:32:11 AM | Wow buzzy9876..Lazy is a universal problem.. much like ignorance. Yes larger people can be lazy, some cold run circles around you and your sarcasim. There are just as many lazy "skinny" people as there are lazy "fat" people.
So you do understand that there is a lot of depression ... what you do not state is that many people gain weight because of depression and the medications needed to allow them to lift their head up and be motivated enough to step out the door.
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 8:48:16 PM | its not that its that important...its more that everyone that makes it a focal point while screening out partners based on certain characteristics in an online social networking site is living in a fantasy land where they think they can pick and choose traits for partners....some people are so unrealistic in this that they will be here for the rest of their lives when they arent finding their PERFECT person....
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 10:06:48 PM | My last love, whom I lost, was 6'1" and 260lbs. His doctor considered him "grossly" over weight, and refused to do a very needed operation till he dropped 55 of those pounds. I think no one sees truth in a mirror.
I have "a few extra" pounds down, and ma hunny spends a fair amount of time trying to convince me I don't need to lose even one. (One of the reasons I love him, BTW, lol!)
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 10:38:55 PM | I weigh 305 Pounds I am over weighted. But have an average body.
I am a little picky also as many men. My standards are not high though.
Overweight on a female is for me personally when there is too much flub hanging or if she weighs more than ~250 pounds.
I think the female should be defiantly the healthy one making the man (me lol) learn better food and drinks. I am not saying she should cook and all for me by no means just I think a female should not weigh way too much really. Though on other hand, it does give men that do love plumper women. :) | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/30/2009 10:45:31 PM | I am sorry for double posting.
I read also that "the truth hurts" (I am takeing no sides what so ever.)
I agree with that. But just let me give you a various hint.
False friends lie to you, tell you the blue from the sky.
True friends tell you how it is, even if it is f*cking harsh to times.
Thats what makes true friend be friends. And the say also
A man who goes to jail because a friend talked his way out isnt a friend.
A friend is one who sits beside you and says lets do it again or; lets try not to do it again.
Done been there. I can count on one hand how many true friends I have. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/31/2009 10:29:30 AM | dateless356,
what happened to those men who thought Marylin Monroe was sexy and she had a tummy, hips and saggy breasts - and was like a size 16?
That's a myth. She was never a size 16 by TODAY's size, not even close. The size # changed to boost a woman's confidence about her body (marketing). Snopes.com has an article on it (about rumors). She was a size 8 by today's measurements in her early years and never really got past a size 10 in her later years.
With that said, most guys do find women with curves attractive. For instance, in Playboy, you won't find CK model types in there -- they have curves. Guys still want curves. I think twig-women have been liked a little more because society has gotten so fat and out of shape, it scares the bejesus out of men, so a gal who's too-skinny is at least most likely not going to be 30 pounds overweight in 15 years, ya know?
I think guys' opinions vary, but all in all, it's how a woman carries her weight. She can be (officially) overweight somewhat, but if she carries them out in curves, as opposed to say, a beer gut, then she's not going to be considered overweight in most guy's eyes, I don't think.
Standard American women and men are FAR away from being Mr or Ms "Hardbody". A guy who's stuffing their face with porkchops and cookie dough as a daily routine can't say "Oh, well, sorry, I'm not Mr. Olympian! Society is SOOO superficial!" without others laughing at him. Same goes for a woman in that situation.
I don't think a lady has to be on par with a model body. In fact, when women go through weight loss, it's usually well before she gets to her weight goal that she notices guys eyeing her when she walks into a room. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/31/2009 10:49:14 AM | Overweight, when it comes to individuals, is subjective and therefore ambigious when it are not being considered in a medical light. It is "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" philosophy. No one person speaks for all. If you are bigger than they like, you are fat. If you are smaller than they like, you are skinny.
Stop trying to figure out what "they" like and like yourself for who you are. If you don't like your weight, do something about it. If you feel you are fine, they way you are, then find someone who feels the same way. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/31/2009 4:12:23 PM | Posted by Like a Soldier
"Anything over a size 6. Really a 4 or less would be better."
Shoot, I think I was a size 6 when I was 1o. I am 6ft.
Wow, back when I was 140lbs ... I was a size 8-10 depending on what style of clothes I was wearing. I couldn't have laid on the bed and squeezed into a 6 even if I wanted to. In a "mans" size I wore 29"W 36"L. I could bench 180 .. no problem. I wasn't skin & bones and yep....had a definite 6pack. Since that "long ago time" ... I had 13 knee surgeries (4 reconstructive & 7 arthroscopic & 2 total replacements) 2 children .. 1 broken Tibia (at the knee joint) and PCOS. I am now struggling to lose all the weight I have gained due to health issues AND bad eating habits. I have lost a lot of weight ... and will continue losing weight - without the aid of surgery. I still lift weights when I'm able (they are in storage right now) and have done so throughout the years. I am not lazy, nor am I depressed or inactive because of my weight. I have a great attitude, am fun to be around, smile alot and bring smiles to others.
Whether it's BMI or fat ratio ... fat is fat. Overweight is overweight. Obese is Obese. I'm obese. Do I like it...nope. Do I find it disgusting ... yep. But it is me, and I am doing something about it.
What men think of me is their own opinion. They are entitled to it. Fortunately there are men who find a plus sized woman very attractive. I just hope as the "plus" falls away they will still find me attractive....because if you are basing your being attracted to me because of my body shape and size ... what will that say when the day comes that I'm not this way anymore? | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/31/2009 5:32:51 PM | Overweight is subjective. I have been told that I should strive to be a stick. I'm not going to be a stick. I'm very active, and a stick would have a hard time running around without having at least a protein bar in her!
With that said, I decided to sign up with a personal trainer and find out what my idea weight should be. With the amount of muscle I have on me, my trainer said I shouldn't try to get below a certain weight. My hope is to lose about 2-3 sizes, though, and get myself back in the range that I feel is very attractive and makes me feel healthy and good about myself.
My experience has been when I gain a certain amount of weight or go past a certain size, I don't get many male lookers. But I never have been skinny as an adult, and I've dated some good-looking men. I think when I was my healthiest, it showed and they were attracted. So I don't think you have to be super thin. I just think most men like women who are healthy. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 5/31/2009 11:52:23 PM | As a lot of folks have said, it's kind of an individual thing. I have a rule of thumb that is absolutely useless except in an academic manner. My rule of thumb is that a comfortable and attractive weight for a woman is 2 times her height in inches. So, 5'10" == 140lbs. The last woman I dated was 5'10" and 145lbs and looked great. My ex-wife was 5'6" and while I found her attractive even when she was heavy after the birth of each of our kids, she naturally hovers around 130lbs which is right in the ball park.
My rule of thumb, however, is useless because the only point at which you will typically get those numbers from someone is after you know them really well, but, I digress.
I don't really think about people in terms of their weight, but, in terms of their fatness. Thus, people aren't overweight, they are overfat. So, in my opinion, a man's shirt should drape off of his chest and not hit his belly on the way down. For women, my standard is that your arms shouldn't look like stuffed sausages. I want to see a transition between your shoulders and triceps.
Just one more random person's opinionated opinion. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 12:18:28 AM | Hello All:
This is a very hard topic, but I think the most important thing to remember is that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I personally know that I am not where I would like to be in the weight department, but I could care less what anybody has to say about my weight. I know that I am a great individual. When I see guys being treated badly by some women who are skinny, I DO NOT feel sorry for them at all. If a person spends his/her entire life focused on weight and not the person's heart or intentions then they get what they deserve(A pretty package with nothing inside). I am a mother, I work a 40 hour week and I am a full time student pursuing my business degree. I once never had to worry about my weight and I refuse to blame my kids or anyone else for my weight gain. The main thing I look at is that I love me. If a man doesn't ... who cares. I have never been lazy a day in my life and I have worked consistently since I was 11 years old. It is too bad that some people have such hard feelings about BBW's, but that is not my problem. LOL. I have 2 very beautiful tall, slim and gorgeous sisters. Neither of them work and one of them is a chronic user(She uses her good looks to get what she wants). When ever I see a man going out with her, I laugh because he has no idea what he is in for. So to all of you out there who have a problem with someone being fat, you should really evaluate yourself and make sure that you are not insecure about something. If that person is happy and carries themselves well, who cares what other people think. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 4:06:57 AM | @jersey-girl84:
At 4'11", close to 200 lbs is obese. I am now 120, with about ten more pounds to lose. At the obese weight that I was, I still had curves. lol. I looked like a butterball turkey. Men still liked what they saw and I dated. I just didn't feel right with myself so I began taking off weight. I guess I just didn't want to be a fat grandmother. I am not there yet, but someday hope to be active the way I am now when that day comes.
I am a work in progress, in no way 'solid' but not bad that I don't look like I can't 'kick ass' in a pair of form fitting jeans with a little 'muffin' top. What men find attractive is a matter of different strokes for different folks. Some don't mind women with a 'little meat' on their bones and some do. Some men say that a woman that is as thin as a wafer is painful to have sex with because they are banging bones. I am not making this stuff up. Inquiring minds want to know and I have asked this to several guys find out what they thought. But then again, there are some guys that get turned on by heavy women.
I don't think it there is any one answer that would be a definite one. Men like women of different 'flavas'. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 5:33:33 AM | | Thin. A Few extra pounds evidently means morbidly obese. Of course frames vary, but the american " average " is obese. ex. at 5 feet and 6 inches tall. 115 or less is thin, the 120135 range is or could be ok if athletic. but 140 is fat and 150 plus is down right unhealthy. Even a man at the same height would be overweight at much over 150. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 5:39:47 AM |
I don't think it there is any one answer that would be a definite one. Men like women of different 'flavas'.
Being the Elvis Presley fan that I am, one of his songs says it pretty darn good, something like this....
big and brassy, small and sassy, in short dresses, in tight sweaters...go walkin' and a wigglin' by.... Oh lordy, give me one of each kind. I'm just a red blooded boy and I can't stop thinkin' bout girls...girls...girls
From the song : "GIRL HAPPY"  | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 8:00:34 AM | @gentlemanjim4one:
You said it best! A man who knows what's good!  <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>  | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 12:14:23 PM |
what happened to those men who thought Marylin Monroe was sexy and she had a tummy, hips and saggy breasts - and was like a size 16?
That's a myth. She was never a size 16 by TODAY's size, not even close. The size # changed to boost a woman's confidence about her body (marketing). Snopes.com has an article on it (about rumors). She was a size 8 by today's measurements in her early years and never really got past a size 10 in her later years.
Still I could care less what size dress she wore. Could care less what she weighed. She had curces and was sexy, beautiful, feminine and graceful. But it's true, women were thought of as sexy or hot at a larger size then what many think is sexy and hot today. Go look at the earliest pin up models of the 1920's up to early 1950's. Most had big thighs, well rounded hips and definate curves through the waist area. They sure looked better then twiggy to me.
It still comes down to what each of us finds attractive or not attractive. If a woman carries herself well, looks feminine, has a beautiful face, expressive eyes, I don't even think about her dress size or weight. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 12:54:27 PM |
for example, is average/curvy attractive and you draw the line at obese? or do you not prefer average weight women and think thin is most attractive?
Healthy is most attractive!! Obese is not healthy, nor is anorexic. | |
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| what do men consider overweight?
Posted: 6/1/2009 1:54:38 PM | gentlemanjim,
Still I could care less what size dress she wore. ... They sure looked better then twiggy to me.
Well, the woman I was replying should. She was claiming Marilyn was a size 16 (today's), but she wasn't. She was (gasp) significantly slimmer than that.
A today's size 8 is not twiggy (Marilyn). It's not FAT either - lol. I think some women think "Oh, she was a size 16... She was plus-sized!" Actually, no she wasn't.
Comparative female pin-up-type models are slimmer (women & men in society are fatter), and many today have better bodies, as long as they're not twigs (you'll see twigs in CK; not in Playboy). It doesn't go from twig -> fat. There are many levels in between, and I don't think ANYONE is saying you have to be a twig to look good. Curvy & not-noticeably-overweight is better looking in most guys' eyes than an ironing-board shaped twig!
And SOME women could be plus-sized (14-16) and still look good. But those are statistically very uncommon, hence models for plus-sized magazines, or SOME nude models from back in the day, but most were significantly slimmer... (but not "slim" by today's standards). A woman could be in relatively good shape but her hips could be uncommonly wider, with her body's symmetry still allowing it to look good (yum). But how does that resolve s the pouting by some women who are fat? I wouldn't call the old-school pin-up models fat. They don't look like them, either, to be frank.
Plus, wouldn't women be more upset about the neck-up? Sure being overweight can infringe on it, but there's nothing you can do non-surgically (and not too much surgically) to make it better. At least with a body, you have significant control. Judging a woman by her face would leave a woman more helpless -- something a lack of twinkies and heaping spoonfuls of pot roast wouldn't be able to resolve to any large degree! | |
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