| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 10:41:11 AM | As I stated before, that particular quote came from a class I took years ago so I don't have a particular web site for that one quote. I am sure you don't really care about that though, since you are obviously more interested in whining about men being abused (and bashing me to prove your point) than you are in finding the truth. Because of that I will not respond to anymore of your posts. For those who are interested though I have a few other interesting stats (that came from reliable sources) and a website to back them up.
The US Dept of Justice estimates that 95% of domestic violence victims are women
The US Surgeon General says that domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to American women.
A woman is beaten in this country every 15 seconds.
Domestic violence kills 4 women and 3 children in this country every day.
11% of murdered women are killed by an intimate partner (I couldn't find current stats that include suicide)
These stats and many more like them can be found at www.domesticpeace.com/ed_nationalstats.html or www.dvrc-or.org/domestic/violence/resources/c61/#hom and many other sites - just google it and you will get all kinds of stats similar to these. Good luck in your fight for the poor abused men freetime - there's not that many out there. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 12:00:04 PM | Staceyssc you posted "Domestic violence is the number 1 killer in the US for women 25-40." not me and it is complet and total Bull Sh#t. Intread of just admitting you were wrong, lied or were trolling you went into your man bashing troll posts.
"Because of that I will not respond to anymore of your posts" I hope you are telling the truth this time staceyssc because we all know you were not before!!!!!!!!!!
"Good luck in your fight for the poor abused men freetime "
Here are some real facts for the other posters out there with web links: )
http://www.batteredmen.com/
Battered Men - The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence
835,000 men battered each year, silent too long
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 256 scholarly investigations: 201 empirical studies and 55 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 253,500.
http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Handouts/DomesticViolenceMen.htm
In 100 domestic violence situations approximately 40 cases involve violence by women against men
http://www.abanet.org/domviol/statistics.html
And finally from the ABA "Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States. "
The facts point out that men and women are both abusive. I think people that put up with it men or women are dumb!
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:49:56 PM |
Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States. "
That is still a large difference between the numbers of men and the numbers of women. Also, remember that those figures do NOT distinguish between the genders of the abusers. In other words, they don't tell you how many of the 835,000 men were assaulted by a male intimate partner, nor do they tell you how many of the 1.3 million women were assaulted by a female intimate partner. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 3:26:10 PM | "That is still a large difference between the numbers of men and the numbers of women. Also, remember that those figures do NOT distinguish between the genders of the abusers. In other words, they don't tell you how many of the 835,000 men were assaulted by a male intimate partner, nor do they tell you how many of the 1.3 million women were assaulted by a female intimate partner."
The number is just under 40% and add to this that men are by far less likely to admittle to being assaulted and report being assulted. But that was not my point any ways. My point was and it is a fact that women are also abusive to men. Even if it was only 10% it would still be a significant fact when this is talked over.
"remember that those figures do NOT distinguish between the genders of the abusers"
This is true for the figures on the women too and we all know gay girls love to fight, I have paid good money to see it: ) | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 3:37:12 PM |
This is true for the figures on the women too
I stated that.
nor do they tell you how many of the 1.3 million women were assaulted by a female intimate partner. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 4:15:17 PM | | are there really that many abusive men? maybe because they were raised by single moms or single dads alone....who knows. or they are spoiled brats? why do most women want to divorce? money, what? no one knows. must be our wonderful society. something doesn't work, hire a lawyer and turn the page....the american way. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/27/2009 4:53:11 PM |
are there really that many abusive men? maybe because they were raised by single moms or single dads alone
with all the posts you have made putting down single parents and blaming them, etc.
Why would you put in your profile that you don't mind dating single moms?
With all the negativity you project do you really think they would want to date you?
not trying to be mean just asking | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/30/2009 2:50:40 PM | | I myself would be interested in seeing some statistics that show how many times we men restrain ourselves in the face of screaming scratching female partner. In my own experience, handing over my credit card usually calmed her down. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/30/2009 11:55:29 PM | My parents never hurt each other but some how I am stuck, I have picked 3 long term relationships with men who couldnt handle themselves and took their baggage out on me. The first two I left after the first real incident where I could have lost my and my childs life. The last is harder to leave, some how you get sucked back in.... I kept having faith in him and some how he would do what he promised and have changed back into the guy in the begining. He told me that he knew i wasnt from around the block. He knew i am an optimistic and he knew how to use and lie. So now I am trying to get him to take care of his kids but all he says is that i am a whore but i have never cheated on him. My heart and head hurts all the time and i am upset that now i am on my own but some how I still work and come home to my babies. They are my sunshine and my lil stars.
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/31/2009 5:40:27 AM | "Perpetrators, do not change and they carry on abusing, just move onto another victim. I am a survivor of a perpetrator that is how I like to see myself, they like to pick on confident people and then chip away at our self esteem, and wear us down, just so they can feel confident. You may say it would never happen to you. All I can say is look out for the red flag signs when meeting someone. I know what these are and I will never make the same mistake again."
Well said :-). I have regained my confidence, as a woman and a woman who needs to take care of herself and her children, but I still have issues in and around relationships with trusting men. I look at how far I've come just from him not being in my life for 2 years, it's amazing; however, when I look back to how I was before I met him, I was beautiful, at a healthier weight, full of life and a whole lot less complicated lol. I was "chipped" at for years. So many people on here talking about the physical abuse...not that it is any better, but those wounds heal faster...emotional abuse is the worst...when you can't do anything right and you start to believe that something really is wrong with you when you try and try and try but are never able to gain their approval...well maybe sometimes when they want something, you are good enough and they will let you know it, to only find yourself back on that rollercoaster. | |
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| Why Are There So Many Abusive Men? (Not Here)
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:27:53 AM | Jenn8131,
"Now give the woman the tools to make her life better and she will. My cousin did a 2 yr program after her American Republican husband abandoned her. And he doesn't pay his cs. So my cousin went back to school and she is making 25 an hour. She got funding for daycare. So now she doesn't need any help and she is capable of providing a good life for her child.
If you guys had universal health care you wouldn't be so bitter about having single moms on medicaid. All Canadians pay a premium....."
This was a wonderful post. People here in America seem to get all pissy with people for being poor and having to resort to "using the system" and so much blame and shame thrown at them for keeping this cycle alive, however, they have no crack at an equal opportunity. Education isn't even the same within the poorer communities. This is an example of abuse, although it is not domestic violence. When people are made to feel bad or as a failure because of their socioeconomic class, and they are being bullied by the upper classes, how are they supposed to feel about themselves and each other? Another example of victimizing the victim. If those people knew anything about how hard it is to break the cycles, perhaps they wouldn't be so harshly judging the impoverished...maybe it doesn't seem fair that someone's precious tax dollars help someone to put food on the table in a time of need or helps a single parent (like myself) get through school so she/he can make it without the assistance of your precious tax dollars...besides, once I can financially support myself and I'm making $25/hour, I will be paying taxes for the rest of my life...besides the fact that my own parents have paid into the tax pool for decades. Yes, I am justifying why I feel ok about accepting this hand up.
The truth is, in this country, it seems that so many can't stand the thought of someone coming from a poor socioeconomic class who can and will actually make it out of it. To me, that's what I thought America was supposed to be about, was opportunity. That is why people have immigrated here for centuries, because they thought the streets were "paved in gold." The cost of everything continues to climb, but never the wages...occaisionally minimum wage goes up, but so does the price of everything else accordingly. We all know the ploys and the tactics used for keeping the poor poor in this country. If I have an opportunity available to me to try and break this cycle in my own family and to give my children a better life, you damn well better believe I'm going to take it. People like to be snobs in this country. They like to have something that makes them feel as if they are better than someone else...that something being money and/or power. Something that makes them feel as if they are more than human. | |
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