| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 9/25/2009 5:41:09 PM | | I am always the second rate guy, I am the one they call when there car breaks down or they need help moving or a job reference or a ride home or fix an appliance or protect them from an abusive ex or babysit there kids it goes on and on and on..I am good for everything but the one thing I wouldnt mind being used for..they wont even give that opportunity | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 9/27/2009 1:35:31 AM | | That sounds rough but once she's put you in that friend mode, you're in the 'friend zone' and you're better off placing your affection on someone who sees you otherwise. | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 10/5/2009 9:10:03 AM | You seem like an awesome dude,I got a similar (curse), We b ok might have to be bottom feeders. When I cure mine I'll let ya know how. | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 10/5/2009 12:29:01 PM | | You're probably acting too nice, too available - a classic wuss. Most women don't want another girlfriend, only with balls - they want a man. I think perhaps David DeAngelo may be on target with his books, etc., that address these issues. | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:18:32 PM | OP you are letting yourself get PLAYED each and every time you with a girl, once you get put in the friend zone it's a WRAP.
Have some dignity and self respect and know when they are playing games and stop playing along with them in the hope that they will go for you.
You have to be number 1 to yourself first before anyone else will take you seriously.
In the end don't get upset about not being number 1, nobody really is for the right reasons.
Any woman that says a guy is first rate is thinking from her crotch or her bank account soon to be filled with his money.
Honest women can admit no one is perfect, they are only made to be perfect when seen through the eyes of love or lust. | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:27:58 PM | uh oh Deangelo was brought up....
Don't be a ***hole or a jerk to women just treat them like any of your guy friends and don't give them any slack for being born a woman or winning the genetic lottery.
Read David DeAngelo and Niel Strauss well atleast a couple times and really let it set in and try some of the exercises. Once you get comfortable in your own skin and build a healthy level of confidence you should turn into a first rate guy.
I have a certain level of success with the stuff they teach you but my downfall is finding what I want. If I find a woman who wants something out of life that I don't want (marriage/kids) I just walk away and I find myself doing alot of walking. | |
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| Sick of being the second rate guy..
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:24:37 AM | I've seen this before, I've been there before.
1. Self Confidence... get some.
2. Don't do everything for them, nothing wrong with being nice, I am a nice guy.
3. Stay away from the damaged chicks. Look for someone who has their s*** together. If they are talking about old boyfriends all the time, or other problems then dump them. All it will cause you is problems.
Everyone has issues, adopt a positive personality and man up. I've been the doormat before, I've tried to play the Knight in Shining Armor and all it got me was no where. Well actually it did get me somewhere, I opened my eyes, grew a pair and realized I deserved better.
Best of Luck | |
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