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Posted: 5/30/2009 12:04:40 AM | Posted by Annie I Oakley :
No seriously that type of message will not work with any woman unless she is so desperate for attention that she will respond to just about anyone. For most of us women who have self respect and a healthy dose of self esteem that would be a read/delete.
No it wouldn't. You women like to CLAIM that sh*t like this doesn't work. From a goofy letter like this to Pick-up artist techniques, you ladies will deny it to the end of the earth. But what you say and what you actually DO are to totally different things. This guy has gotten responses with this silly letter where guys that try to actually read a girls profile and send a message about it get nothing. Seems like more women respond to stuff like this than you'd think. I realize that maybe not EVERY woman will respond to it, but really, stop acting like you're just too good for anyone trying something different.
So the only women who respond to this kind of message are women with low self esteem and no respect for themselves? No, women who have a sense of humor respond to this message. You're not too good for anyone sending messages. Get of your high horse.  | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 8:07:50 AM | Reveal1k finally said what everyone else is thinking!
Here I thought I was the only one that was getting ridiculous results from this! I've learned that it really doesn't matter how good your grammar is or how much or how little you say. Its so funny because when its all said and done, women always hold all the cards. They may find one guy who isn't interested, but there are 10 more guys in waiting who are interested. Its definitely not the same for us.
I think POF should delete the accounts of women who start conversations and just decide to stop talking after "hello". Doesn't that defeat the purpose of what we're all here for? I know I'm new to the online dating thing, but is there a code or a password or something that you need to say to keep email conversations going? I've never been this bad at anything, and I should probably go back to real life, face-to-face meetings. This is WAY more frustrating! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 8:44:09 AM | Whatever works for you, but...
To be honest, that's because I have no genuine interest in the receiver at that point.
...that ^ is exactly why it wouldn't work for me.
I don't understand the concept of wanting to contact someone whom you're not interested in?
Also, wouldn't receiving more replies to a generic form letter be akin to someone who shouts HELLO TALK TO ME in the middle of a restaurant suddenly getting a whole bunch of (generic) attention?
I find it ironic that many people complain that their mail gets ignored because women receive too much mail (for which women are then accused of being attention whores, ego driven, delusional, yada yada yada) while they themselves are mass emailing women they're not even interested in.
The irony (and sheer hypocrisy) of complaining about something that one is contributing to would be laughable if not for the fact that in hundreds of other threads, women are BLAMED and called names for being the recipients of too much mail/attention.
Gah.
JMO
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Posted: 5/30/2009 9:31:58 AM |
Posted by oldsoul:
..that ^ is exactly why it wouldn't work for me.
I don't understand the concept of wanting to contact someone whom you're not interested in?
Also, wouldn't receiving more replies to a generic form letter be akin to someone who shouts HELLO TALK TO ME in the middle of a restaurant suddenly getting a whole bunch of (generic) attention?
I find it ironic that many people complain that their mail gets ignored because women receive too much mail (for which women are then accused of being attention whores, ego driven, delusional, yada yada yada) while they themselves are mass emailing women they're not even interested in.
The irony (and sheer hypocrisy) of complaining about something that one is contributing to would be laughable if not for the fact that in hundreds of other threads, women are BLAMED and called names for being the recipients of too much mail/attention.
Gah. First of all, a woman is more likely to talk back in real life. Not so much on the internet. Which is why someone has to come up with something like this to get responses. So saying sending out forum messages is akin to yelling out in public, "TALK TO ME" is wrong.
He said no genuine interest. Like he said earlier, the girl has some pics up, and a profile which looks just like every other woman's profile on POF. If he sends a message, he might be curious. Or hell, maybe he just wanted to see if his idea would work. The real irony in the situation is that when a GUY can make the woman want to gain HIS approval for once, and say, "Hey. Your profile is like a million others out there. Why are you special?" they get mad. "It would never work on me!" I call B.s. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 10:37:05 AM |
He said no genuine interest. Like he said earlier, the girl has some pics up, and a profile which looks just like every other woman's profile on POF.
Right. That is what he said (and what I understood and addressed in my post). What exactly was the point of quoting my post?
All you're doing is further proving MY point that it's ridiculous (TO ME) to email people you are not interested in and/or who have profiles that "looks just like every other woman's profile on POF".
Why in heaven's name would anyone email someone they have no interest in or whose profile is just like any other??
And no, it's not about feeling special - I AM special*. And it's too bad if that sounds conceited or "entitled" - nothing could be further from the truth and I won't apologise (nor be shamed) for it.
Furthermore, the fact that a person would email someone based solely on their pics (which obviously they do by the assertion that their profiles are just like everyone else) only serves to drive my point even more to the point - so someone finds me "cute enough" to send SPAM to - so what?? Is that supposed to make me feel all warm and cozy inside? Too funny!
As far as this...
"Hey. Your profile is like a million others out there. Why are you special?" they get mad.
If someone feels they have the right to send an unsolicited critique or review of a person's profile just to inform them "they're not special/one in a million", they should be reported for harassment and/for being abusive and perhaps they should consider getting some help for their anger/controlling/abusive/entitlement issues. Seriously. No BS.
*special = unique, individual, particular, one of a kind, having a quality, character, identity or use of its own, readily distinguishable from others = NOT better (or worse) than any other.
JMO
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Posted: 5/30/2009 12:49:22 PM | Whoa folks, relax, no need to start a gender war.
I don't understand the concept of wanting to contact someone whom you're not interested in?
You misunderstand. I'm not interested in people's profiles, I just want to talk to them. Doing this lets me filter out the non-reply types from women who want to exchange words, and with minimum effort invested to boot. It's just more efficient than trying to be an e-mail casanova :p | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 2:31:08 PM | First, your form letter is not an original idea. I have received several emails in which it was obvious that the man had merely inserted my name. In a couple, my name wasn't even inserted--the emails began, "Hello, I'm Billy-Joe-Bob, and . . ." At times, the info was lifted directly from his profile.
I did respond. I replied with something to the effect of, "If I don't rate an original email, you aren't worth the effort, either."
I also find that quite a few men send a feeler email that merely says, "hi." I respond with, "Hi." Since I am polite, I usually respond, but the conversation will never take off because of the lack of effort on his part. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 9:15:23 PM | Gwen...
It was never meant to be an original idea. Its very purpose was to demonstrate an absolute lack of originality. Jeez, lady, I put the words "form letter" right in it, so you wouldn't be disillusioned.
edit: Hmm. I am quite proud of the way this has unfolded. In my inbox right now, is a message from a very righteous-sounding lady from Kentucky, who says that my irreverent approach to internet dating is making Jesus angry. I wish I was joking. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2009 9:12:42 AM |
It was never meant to be an original idea. Its very purpose was to demonstrate an absolute lack of originality. Jeez, lady, I put the words "form letter" right in it, so you wouldn't be disillusioned.
I have been a long time forum aficionado, and I have learned to TAKE what people say in their posts as straight-talk. I have assumed that people were being facetious or sarcastic only to find out that my assumptions were wrong. This is why I put (evil grin) or some other type of indication that I am being facetious.
For example--the letter you received saying that you are making Jesus angry: my first take would be that she was being "silly" in the same vein as you form letter proposal, but I know that there are people who apparently know the mind of god. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2009 12:00:32 PM | Sorry to burst your bubble there Hellgremlin, but I would not bother to respond to this type message.
You generalize all woman in this type of message and I'm sorry to tell you this, but originality is one sure fire way to get me to respond to a message. A form letter is not.
Furthermore, when you proceed to dictate how the conversation must start..... Well I've never been good with people trying to tell me what to do and how to do it. BTW conversations start in all manner of ways, other then what you have posted.
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Posted: 5/31/2009 6:20:53 PM |
Sorry to burst your bubble there Hellgremlin, but I would not bother to respond to this type message. That's OK, because 8 others already did. I don't think you burst anyone's bubble.  | |
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Posted: 5/31/2009 8:41:05 PM | | Well done my good man! I have been feeling the same love from these vixens who say nothing but the same stuff about WHAT THEY WANT with few exceptions about what they have to offer. I think we should all try this and see. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2009 6:03:19 AM | HellGremlin..., since you're the one here seeking advice let me begin by asking you a question. What made you choose such a screen name? Most women are not going to be attracted to a name like HELL GREMLIN. Somehow that moniker doesn't scream out nice boyfriend. It's downright creepy IMO. Also, IMO, you need a new profile pic. Take off that ugly blood red shirt, try yellow or blue or a more soothing color, and sit up straight if you're going to show your torso for heavens sakes, swap out those dark glasses, they hide your eyes.
If you really think you found out how to meet nice ladies with this form letter idea, then whats with the lady who thinks the internet dating is a sin, but is doing it anyway? You're telling us, you can't take the time to bother reading a profile, but you want a heartfelt response to your form letter? There's just something so wrong with your attitude, Hell, err..Gremlin? Not sure what to call you..., Hell, or do you prefer Gremlin? Oh and one more thing, stop being such a crybaby and face the fact that it is difficult to find THE ONE.
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Posted: 6/6/2009 11:45:52 AM | I like it! It's kinda funny and more original than the typical, "Hi, how r u?' or "Wuzzup sexy, wanna hang out?"
I was always much more likely to notice and respond to funny or clever messages or to profiles that are well-thought-out and entertaining. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2009 11:49:26 AM | truth hurts lol
we women just get fed up of "hello how are you?" or "hello u look ****able" etc..
try being a gentleman instead....cos my god that does capture the attention.....a real rarity happy hunting all x | |
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Posted: 6/6/2009 4:46:53 PM |
HellGremlin..., since you're the one here seeking advice let me begin by asking you a question. What made you choose such a screen name? Most women are not going to be attracted to a name like HELL GREMLIN. Somehow that moniker doesn't scream out nice boyfriend. It's downright creepy IMO. Also, IMO, you need a new profile pic. Take off that ugly blood red shirt, try yellow or blue or a more soothing color, and sit up straight if you're going to show your torso for heavens sakes, swap out those dark glasses, they hide your eyes.
If you really think you found out how to meet nice ladies with this form letter idea, then whats with the lady who thinks the internet dating is a sin, but is doing it anyway? You're telling us, you can't take the time to bother reading a profile, but you want a heartfelt response to your form letter? There's just something so wrong with your attitude, Hell, err..Gremlin? Not sure what to call you..., Hell, or do you prefer Gremlin? Oh and one more thing, stop being such a crybaby and face the fact that it is difficult to find THE ONE.
Wow. Did you read a single thing I wrote, ma'am? Because I'm not seeking advice, nor am I crying; I'm sharing advice on something I've already proven to work great and save time and effort.
As to the other points... we aren't even dating and you're already trying to change me! I rather like the personality I currently have - I'd rather not switch to a different one, as that would be deceptive :) | |
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Posted: 6/8/2009 7:52:55 AM |
For example, I received an email last night that was right on the money. He very obviously read my profile and it was VERY MUCH appreciated. Right off the bat, I now have the first impression of him as a listener and a guy that really pays attention to the small stuff. Maybe I'm wrong but at least he has me snowed for now.
Just out of curiosity and without details did you respond?
To the OP,
I am not so sure that it is the form letter so much as it is the approach. It comes across to me as a pretty confident take on things, and it makes it clear that you are here for more thanjust a quick hook-up. I think that is what has lead to the increased response rate you are seeing versus the "form" letter per se. It stands out, and is a direct question that invites a response without the reader having to figure out what you are asking for. Well done and well though out approach. Just pray everyone doesn't follow your lead or it will burn out the fish. Much the same way as overusing the same lure on the lake.
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Posted: 6/8/2009 8:26:19 AM | Look ladies, to those of you who claim this message would never work with you, that's fine. You can read/delete in a simple keystroke.
But, don't be so disgusted by the concept, as it just might be true that some women think it's quite clever and original. And if the OP (or anyone else who tries this approach), is successful in getting responses, and possibly dates in the process, your holier than thou attitude means nothing. Recognize that not everyone responds to the same thing. | |
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