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| | Abortion Doctor Finially Killed...Page 3 of 32 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32) | no one has the right to kill anyone ...except in self defense ..this means late term abortions as well as those who perform them
but there is no reason to let a pregnancy go that far then abort it ... in my opinion first trymester abortions are the only ones that should be legal ...unless it is determined that having the baby would significantly endanger the woman's life ...Not just her mental state ...if you havent figured out that you dont want a child in three months ....you have took to much time ...let someone adopt it .... | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 8:59:40 AM | cncgandolf,
Okay, but I wasn't using rape as an excuse for "killing a human being..".
That's a weightless thing to say.
I was using it as an instance that could have some consideration.
I know that when I was 18, if I were in a situation where I was raped, I didn't know about my options. I don't think I knew about Plan B. Many young woman don't.
You're right that most rapes don't result in pregnancy.
But it happens to some.
My point is that young girls get caught in touchy situations sometimes. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 9:05:43 AM |
Change the definition of 'suffer irreparable harm' make it clear it is a choice of the physical life of the mother or the child only.
Change any definition you want, over turn Roe v wade...but do it at the ballot box.
On sunday Morning a poll came out...Americans wanting-
*total ban on abortion was at 22% ...from 17% a year ago.
*Abortion on demand down from a year ago...about the same % as total ban.
*American who believe abortion should be legal is still a vast majority, but had dropped about 7% points from a year ago...That was sunday morning
I have a feeling that killer has set the anti-abortion side back. No one (sane) wants to see acts of Domestic Terrorism and Have Clinics and Medical workers harmed.
American Is not in the mood for that kinda Junk. No Mood
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MSG54
if you havent figured out that you dont want a child in three months ....you have took to much time ...let someone adopt it ....
Have you never heard of a pregnancy having complications after the first trimenster?
If you have a proplem with late term abortions...change the law...dont complain. if this is what a majority of the citizens feel, change the law.
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Posted: 6/1/2009 9:33:30 AM | It seems the Twitter is turning out the be a good way to check out prospective employees for mental instability
http://carnalnation.com/content/7628/3/tweets-hate-craz...
One side effect of Twitter is that the stupid, bigoted comments people used to make at the water cooler now get preserved for future employers to find using Google.
A small sample of the hatred expressed on Twitter after the assassination of Dr Tiller:
* Crap, I always forgot hashtags. I'm happy Tiller's dead. - Jennifer Waite, Selah, Washington
* UPDATE... Doctor George Tiller was aborted today in his 204th trimester - aren't paybacks a **** - Punch
* oh HAPPY DAY! Tiller the baby killer is DEAD! - Samantha Pelch
* George Tiller the baby killer was shot dead this morning. God bless the gunmen who hopefully won't be caught. - readnwatchchris, Creedmor. NC
* was George Tiller the baby killers brain scrambled the way he scrambled full term fetuses.. one can only hope - Brad S
* Infamous baby killer George Tiller gunned down at (irony) church. Why do I not feel sorry for him? Have fun at Judgment Day. - James Fiddler
* tiller the baby killer shot dead...wow. is it insensitive of me to say what goes around comes around? - Brad M. Negulescu Cleveland.
* George Tiller the Baby Killer shot dead. May he rot in Hell. - Amy Strong
* Tiller Baby Killer was shot and killed this morning Justice has been served. - Shirl Ledeux
* Thinking about "Tiller the baby killer" He now knows the wages of sin is death. - Dianne McDowell
* May Tiller rot in Hell , infanticide is the murder of babies, he WAS a provider of death like Hitler, Bundy the list goes on.... - Dennis, A People Voip Company
* Burn in hell George Tiller - mikedanben Sparta, NJ (41.005501,-74.672)
* No need to pray for George Tiller. We know he went straight to hell!!!!! - Laurie D. Bailey Olive Branch, MS
* Good ridence to Tiller - babies will not be murdered because he is now gone. Wonder how he likes hell! - Jay Emess, Southern, NJ
* Karma is a beautiful thing. Cheers to the hero who sent George Tiller where he belongs... straight to hell. - Matthew Kamar
* omg!george tiller abortion dr. was killed n his church parkn lot! hell yea! - Sarah Gulick, Wtichita, Ks
* George Tiller: Burning in Hell for the last three hours. - darthdilbert Kettering, Oh
* Hmm, I know it's wrong, but I feel like the Late-Term Abortion Doctor George Tiller, got what was he deserved..... - Mary Keogh London England
* Boom Boom Boom. George Tiller was served a very very late term abortion this morning. - Chad Coleman, coeur d'alene, Id
The Twitter search "George Tiller" OR #Tiller was running at about one tweet per second for the last two hours. The overwhelming majority of tweets from both sides of the abortion issue expressed horror at the assassination of Dr Tiller.
If you are as outranged as we are by this senseless assassination, please donate to Planned Parenthood or Medical Students for Choice in honor of Dr Tiller. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 9:34:01 AM |
Have you never heard of a pregnancy having complications after the first trimenster?
yes and I had already made allowances in my post for that ... its called self defense if the mothers life or psychical health is in jeopardy then late term abortions are justified
I have a feeling that killer has set the anti-abortion side back. No one (sane) wants to see acts of Domestic Terrorism and Have Clinics and Medical workers harmed.
I dont think so ..though no one in their right mind condones the killing of this doctor ...that will not change their opinion on the issue
while most people want to step back from making abortion illegal.. most believe that it is over used or should be used as a last resort ..or would be wrong for themselves ...and many people who believe this way are women who have in the past had abortions ...many know and have come to terms with why they had one but say if they had it to do again they would have made another choice | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 9:58:29 AM | I notice that some are more concerned with how this murder will affect them and how others will view them and their beliefs, than how this murder affects the victims' family, and his patients. I also noticed that those people are all pro-life
What a bunch of phony xtian hypocrits. Someone is executed and their first concern is how it will affect them and their beliefs | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 10:36:17 AM | I think that some people don't consider the fact that if abortions are banned, then people will take more dangerous routes.
Many people will abort their babies if they choose to, no matter if it is legal or not.
This scares me. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 10:58:57 AM | | let me start by saying iam not for or against abortion, i have no real stand. i dont think i have the right to tell a wowan what she can and cant do with her body, i dont think abortion should be used as birth control but i dont think it should be outlawed either. i know that may shock some of you on here that a guy who watches oreilly, hannity and fox news has that outlook, but i do . anyway with that beeing said, that guy tiller was killing babies, not fetuses. at the term he was " oborting" them they where babies, no one can ever tell me differnt. would i have killed the man, no, am i glad hes dead, yes. besides maybe the person that did it thought they where just performing a late term obortion on him, like they say better late then never | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 11:38:58 AM | | So for all the people who believe that what the man was doing was wrong, then shouldn't the two independent doctors in each case be just as resposible... I don't know about you but three qualified professionals agreeing that these women were in danger sure makes it seem credible to me. Thats a lot a years of school and preperation, so I'm not going to sit here and say that what they were doing wasn't for medical purposes.. I think alot of you are thinking that these women were all using it as birth control. If that was the case they probably would have been done sooner... get off your moral high horses and look at the situation for what its worth. Whats worse aborting a baby, or losing both child and mother. saying your glad someone who saved lives is dead is just messed up. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 11:46:45 AM | saying your glad someone who saved lives is dead is just messed up
if thats what he was doing, not all think that, i have seen other doctors say that is not the case, look iam not a doctor so i cant tell u for sure, but when u preform a late term abortion for " mental health " issues, i doubt he was doing it to save lifes. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 11:55:25 AM | if thats what he was doing, not all think that, i have seen other doctors say that is not the case, look iam not a doctor so i cant tell u for sure, but when u preform a late term abortion for " mental health " issues, i doubt he was doing it to save lifes.
Mental heath issues are just as serious as and effect phsyical heath. And I think you are missing the point that three seperate, independent docotors (not just one) had to say that theses women were in serious risk... do you think all those dr's should be dead too... whats wrong with you? | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 12:10:19 PM | Mental heath issues are just as serious as and effect phsyical heath. And I think you are missing the point that three seperate, independent docotors (not just one) had to say that theses women were in serious risk... do you think all those dr's should be dead too... whats wrong with you
well then most anybody could quailfy for a late term abortion, besides if the mom had just mental problems couldnt the kid be put up for adoption or something, so let me get this if the mom suffers from depression then kill the baby in side of her and u ask me whats wrong with me, look iam not the one killing babies lady.the other thing is i dont know how " independent "these doctors are. i could find 5 republican lawyers that say water boarding is not torture and 5 dem. lawyers that say it is, so the point is i come up with 5 " independent" lawyers but yet they have differ opinions. so to answer your ?, do i think all the doctors should be dead too, if the mom and or baby are not is grave and immediate danger, well then let me anwer it this way, if they happen to die , well so bee it. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 12:34:07 PM |
unless it is determined that having the baby would significantly endanger the woman's life It is my understanding that is really about the only reason they do the 3rd trimester. From what I have read, I don't have the stats in front of me, but either the baby didn't self abort, has detached and can't survive delivered because of major deformities, and similar horror type situations that would cause the mother's death. I thank God I never had to make any decision like that. I also pray for those that don't understand that there are children who wouldn't have a mother now if it weren't for these doctors. Future children that wouldn't be born. Husbands without wives. Etc. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 12:38:26 PM |
do i think all the doctors should be dead too, if the mom and or baby are not is grave and immediate danger, well then let me anwer it this way, if they happen to die , well so bee it.
You intitled to your logic...so long as you dont cross any line and break any laws...you fine in your logic. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 3:12:26 PM |
Have a look at this blog. It's just bloody scary.
http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/gotcha-abortionist-shot-dead.html
It's flat out scary how many people actually seem to believe this is not only okay but something to be celebrated. I have always been firmly against late term abortions, but these people are crazy.
Plus, just for argument's sake here, if you shoot someone in the house of God, I'm pretty sure you go to hell since murder is a sin and doing it in a church is essentially parading it around right in front of God's face. How blasphemous can you be?
" Father forgive them, for they know not what they do ".
The most profound and truest words Jesus spoke.
Sometimes, we humans just revel in our own ignorance and stupidity.
True that.
But it's just as ironic that members of PETA....
Don't get me started on PETA. Another organization with their hearts in the right place but their heads somewhere else completely. A classic example of the old saying, "The path to hell is paved with good intentions."
This whole thread reminds me of the Voltaire song "God Thinks."
God thinks all blacks are obsolete farm equipment
God thinks the Jews killed his son and must be punished
God thinks the white man is Satan
God, they know what God thinks
God thinks we should all convert to Judaism
God thinks we must all be Christians and
God thinks we should all embrace Islam
God thinks the only true religion is Hinduism
And I
I know what God thinks
God thinks you're a waste of flesh
God prefers an Atheist
God God
God thinks all people like you are hateful
God thinks all people like you are an embarrassment to creation
self-righteous, judgmental, first to throw a stone
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Posted: 6/1/2009 4:08:11 PM |
The nut who killed the doctor should get the death penalty.
would send a message to the religous extremists.
Why does America have so many? America has a lot of religious extremists, they are just extremists. Even though America goes around pointing fingers at Islamic extremists as "terrorists", they can't see that they have Christian "terrorists" right here running around killing people.
I guess it's okay if the "terrorist" is American and chanting from the bible. But it's a whole different story if the "terrorist" is Islamic and chanting from their holy book. Haven't you noticed that the first thing they did was declare the guy a nut case? Do you think the American religious (Chrisitan) extremists would go along with it if this guy is water boarded to confess to some sort of tie-in or connection to some priest or minister that told him to do that?
The neocons are the ones pushing the anti-abortion stuff, so do you think they'd be okay with treating this guy the same as the so-called religious Islamic extremists? I mean what's the difference ... Islamic extremist or Christian extremist ... they all kill people ... eh? (Where's the "C0ck" when we need him?)
You know, like they did with Zubaydah. Even though it was determined that he was "certifiable, had a split personality, and in sane", they water boarded him into falsely confessing there was a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda.
We have religious extremists screaming bible passages, chanting bible passages as they toss the bomb into the clinic ... and before you can prosecute them for the horrible "terrorist-like" thing they did, they declare the people as certifiably nuts. Then they say they can't try them for their crime unless they are "sane" ... eh?
You wait and see ... this guy is going to get out of being prosecuted because they're going plead him with insanity. And 5 years from now he'll be out walking the streets shooting more doctors. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 4:45:30 PM |
but there is no reason to let a pregnancy go that far then abort it ... in my opinion first trymester abortions are the only ones that should be legal ...unless it is determined that having the baby would significantly endanger the woman's life ...Not just her mental state ...if you havent figured out that you dont want a child in three months ....you have took to much time ...let someone adopt it ....
You make is sound like these women walked into the abortion clinic at 7-9 months and said "I don't want it anymore, get it out". In the case of late term abortions, that's rarely how it is, if at all. My co-worker was pregnant with what she thought was a normal pregnancy, it wasn't until she was 7 months pregnant that they discovered a problem with her uterus and the baby inside. The baby was taking too much of a toll on her body and her health was seriously at risk. The doctors were almost certain that if she was to carry to term that she'd be giving birth to a dead baby or end up dead herself... she had a huge choice to make. Since she had 2 young kids and a husband, she wanted to be around for them and aborted the pregnancy.
It's not as black and white as you may think. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 6:31:35 PM | | I am a pro-lifer. This is horrible. This does great damnage to our side of the argument. I don't want to end any one's life. That is God's place. I don't think women should be allowed to abort (kill) innocent babies, But we have laws in this country for a reason. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 7:31:56 PM | Annie, she was a co-worker, not a best bud and that's all I know of the story. I didn't pry as it was already a pretty touchy subject to talk about. I'm assuming her and the doctors talked about what to do and she and her husband made the decision from that, unfortunatly I don't know the little details, maybe she even lied to us to save herself some explaining... who knows? All I do know is that the pregnancy was terminated at that point.
All I was trying to point out was that a late term abortion isn't just about the mom deciding... what the heck, I don't want this baby anymore... so get it out. Poor example, I suppose. My bad. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 8:37:19 PM | | Although i am personally extremely against abortion i think it was absolutely wrong to kill him in his church. There are ways of expressing your opinion without shooting someone. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 8:38:23 PM | | Beaking the law is terrible in a manner such as killing, however, the state refused to uphold the laws choosen by the poeple. What this Dr. was doing was illegal and the state refused to uphold the law. I don't think the killer is any worse than the state. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2009 10:15:38 PM | "Although i am personally extremely against abortion i think it was absolutely wrong to kill him in his church. There are ways of expressing your opinion without shooting someone."
Yep. Voting. | |
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Posted: 6/2/2009 12:13:40 AM |
I'm firmly pro-life and am most especially against late-term abortion, but I don't believe in murder. Abortion, in my opinion, is murder. True pro-lifers are in favor of LIFE. They don't go around murdering others; kind of defeats the point of our message and it's just stupid and psychotic
Agreed murder is wrong. It's pretty stupid and ridiculous to kill someone. I'm also against the death penalty and war.
However, there is a direct misconception of how often this kind of thing happens in America. In 36 years of killing babies, approximately eight different times someone has been killed over a crazy pro-lifer.
So far the count is...
--46 million innocent babies have been killed since 1973
--8 pro choice advocates and/or doctors have been killed since 1973
Looks like the pro-choice side has a lot of blood on their hands as well. | |
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