| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/8/2009 10:23:11 AM | To be honest with you, I'd discourage it. Short-term memory, laziness, addiction - these are the main bad effects of smoking pot on a regular basis.
If you are already in your thirties and still haven't stopped smoking weed - you have a serious problem.
Moderation is the key really, but I'd rather work hard all week and then on Sunday get drunk at a safe place over a nice table with a coupla chums. But very rarely, maybe just once a month, roll a joint and indulge in listening to Pink Floyd and ELP and Joe Satriani and some mellifluous trance music, but very seldom. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/8/2009 10:49:29 AM |
To be honest with you, I'd discourage it. Short-term memory, laziness, addiction
I think we are fairly sure doing drugs and alcohol on a regular basis isn't a great idea for young people about to sit important exams that largely define their early adullthood experiences and opportunities.
There are plenty of things to go off the rails on - so that just makes it even more important children are equipped with a good set of skills to deal with THEIR life. There is certainly an argument that having direct experience of things helps you be a better parent. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/8/2009 11:52:30 AM |
There is certainly an argument that having direct experience of things helps you be a better parent.
That's true, and that's why my kids were taught that drugs are not a great idea. I had some 'not so good experiences' in my teens. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/9/2009 4:39:13 AM | wouldn't do it, even if they made it completely legal. I've tried it in the past, and didn't like it.
I actually have a capability to think "what do i want to do". :) | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/9/2009 4:56:23 AM |
So would you encourage me to try Marijuana or would you tell me it wasn't worth the bother?
Why would you encourage me? Do you really believe usage is beneficial? Would you feel totally at ease with yourself for starting up someone on Marijuana? Would your conscience be totally clear??
Marijuana can be beneficial to some people but it can be detrimental to the mental health of vulnerable people. It can cause paranoia and scizphrenia-like symptoms. I wouldn't encourage anyone to use any substance to enhance their pleasure of life. That would be just plain stupid. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/9/2009 8:44:54 AM | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^When you wanna you can certainly talk sence and fooking good sence at that I do like the vision of wingers advertising speed etc .....but i hope this glitch dont last long I'll miss the twisted sarcasm and gallows humour of old | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/9/2009 8:49:27 AM | To answer the original question, I wouldn't encourage or discourage anyone from trying cannabis, I'd leave them to make up their own minds on the matter.
I'm in favour of it being decriminalised, but as for myself, I have tried it and I don't like it, drugs aren't for me.
People should be allowed to make their own choices in this life as long as they are honest about it and are aware of some of the pitfalls/potential consequences. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/10/2009 1:11:01 AM | I'd never encourage someone to start smoking weed.... But i dont think people who smoke it should be seen in such a negative view.
Alcohol is a drug, which causes so many problems... from drink driving and criminal damage caused by people who have had one too many... to ill health from drinking too much. It ruins people's lives through addiction, kills many and causes the NHS numerous problems.... Yet the majority of people do have a drink... Isnt it strange how alot of people who slate weed smokers will go out on a weekend and drink alcohol. 
The word 'hypocritical' comes to mind!
I know loads of people from all kinds of backgrounds who would much rather sit at home with their mates and have a smoke, instead of going out to a pub to have a drink... it costs less money, is more fun and causes far less problems for the public. I know where i'd rather be.
I can understand why some people might not like those who smoke cannabis... but what harm does it actually do to u? Just dont associate with these people and there shouldnt be a problem. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/10/2009 3:04:26 AM | Legalising drugs would definately reduce their usage. A lot of young people only try them because they know they're not supposed to. I wouldn't encourage anyone to try them, but then I wouldn't discourage it either. I've tried various things in the past, some of which I've enjoyed, some of which I wouldn't like to repeat. There are things I wouldn't try but I don't condem those that do, that would be slightly hypocritical.
A lot of the problems with harder drugs stem from what's cut with them to bulk them out, legalising them would reduce a lot of the risk associated with not knowing what you're taking. A lot of the problems with canabis are related to the stregnth of it, regulation could address this and thus reduce the risk of some associated mental issues. I know of people who've developed problems due to smoking dope in excess, at the same time I know of people whose health problems have been alieviated by it.
Medical studies show that both alcohol and tobaco hold higher health risks than canabis, much of the stigma around it comes from ignorance.
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/17/2009 10:19:30 PM | | ok, i wouldnt encourage any1, ive smoked cannabis when i was 13 to 18 and it ****ed my head up, it ruined me, im still recovering now. i know a bloke who went skitso from it, he came out with a superman crop top, ankle swingers with flip flops and said they were contacting him again from another planet, i havnt spoke 2 him since. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/18/2009 12:56:31 AM | ^^ Well why dont you go and make an effort to go and speak to him again. He might need a friend now more than ever.
I am totally against pot and (cos of my job) actively discourage it. Problem is, as bloke above said, you just dont know if you are going to become one of those people who develop psychosis from smoking it. I would especially discourage teenagers from smoking it as it has been proven the younger you start it, the more likely you are to experience problems because the brain hasnt fully developed yet. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/18/2009 3:58:13 AM | I haven't read the whole thread here, (its 4 pages :( ) so apologies if this has already been mentioned.
I know a number of nurses that work in mental health and work in some rather dangerous high secure units. More and more often the patients being admitted and sectioned are in a drug induced psychosis.
Many who begin on Cannabis move on to heavier drugs and heavier problems. It is very much an individual case with each person though. There are of course those that don't move on to heavier drugs.
I know people who have smoked it for years and have suffered no apparant problems but then I have met patients who have only ever smoked Cannabis and are severely damaged because of it.
I have smoked it, not a lot and not any more, if I could get stoned without smoking it I probably would. I enjoyed the feeling of it. Sometimes I enjoyed it immensily, once or twice I was sick. I can't really explain why there was such a difference, maybe it was bad gear when I was sick maybe my body was rejecting it.
Its a difficult one to discuss, there are points to both side of the argument. Personally I wouldn't say it was good for you, other than for possible medicinal use but even then you are weighing up the risks against the benefits and at the end of the day thats what all drugs come down to, even your standard off the shelf paracetamol, do the risks outweight the benefits? For some people the answer is yes, for others no. It is always up to you to decide. I would never encourage, or discourage someone doing anything unless I knew it was detrimental to their health and well being, if I have advice and knowledge to offer, I will, how they use it is up to them.
Apologies for the long post and if it was a bit garbled. :) | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/18/2009 10:28:53 AM | | As far as I know John, currently medical opinion is divided on the drug induced psychotic episode. I think the theory that weed can only induce psychosis in a susceptible person is winning. Trouble is as I said before you dont know if you are going to be in that category before you get start smoking or snorting coke which is another brain boggler. I would go along with this theory as I myself know many people who have no bad effects, then some who just suffer low motivation along with some hypervigalence and a little paranoia...wonderful! | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/18/2009 10:35:00 AM |
he sooner all drugs are legalised the better, they are no longer banned as a moral issue, they are banned simply because the Government are unable to yet find a way to market and tax them effectively
I'd argue they are banned becasue most countries have them banned and it was the west that led the way in banning them.
There are far too many voters that dont have a clue about them and are not going to budge on the viewpoint that th e governments of their youth/parents put into them
Society wants to "protect" and manage peoples lives as much as it ever did. Drugs = fear that th uneducated masses will wreck the country with their excess and the rest of us will have to pick up the pieces becasue we like to think we are socially responsible/have a moral obligation to weaker members of society. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/18/2009 4:32:35 PM | | Just keep things the way they are. Drugs are bad. Don't give (y)our children easy access to this weapon of the Grim Reaper. Alcohol is bad too. But people should be smart and not get addicted, just work hard and enjoy a well-deserved glass in the evening! | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 6:07:33 AM | Well as it stands people are using it anyway. There are people making nice livings out of peddling the stuff, so the argument is don't decriminalise it because people suffer damage from using it? Or drugs are wrong, does it stop people getting access to them at the moment?
Do you think people are going to stop using cannabis because it's against the law?
Far from it. So the get this evil drug off our streets argument doesn't work as at the moment, it's very easy to get.
Decriminalising it might just take pushers out of the equation. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 6:23:37 AM | | I know in some susceptible people it can lead to serious mental illness, which in many ways amounts to a ruined life. the other point against smoking pot a lot is similar to those who drink a lot - people go through life rather drunk and miss an awful lot of their lives that way, it shouldn't be any surprise that behavioural problems develop since instead of facing up to adult life people just turn to their prop. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 6:42:57 AM |
It is a common misconception that cannabis is a gateway drug, to harder drugs such as heroin or crack/cocaine. The gateway drug is alcohol, not cannabis.
I've always seen the gateway drug to be Nicotine.
There are lots of different strains of cannabis, some should be made class A, some should be decriminalised if not made legal.
I'd encourage someone to smoke hashish if I thought it may help them in some way.
I wouldnt encourage anyone to smoke skunkweed on any occaision. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 7:01:06 AM | There benefits and drawbacks aren't there? I don't use drugs but in my experience around people who do, they talk about the benefits of smoking weed as if looking at the silver lining and trying to get over the paranoia and bad moods that are also caused.
I would think it's the same as alcohol, everything in moderation, even chocolate, or sunshine. Too much of anything can be bad for you. I doubt one spliff will do any harm to anybody. | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 4:46:27 PM | ive smoked pot when i was 13, i remember it being excellent, good buzz and it become 2 regular. i soon became more amune spending more money on it, to a point where i was spending £20.00 a day. it started to give me bad paranoia like, walking funny or thinking people were taking the piss. it also made me from an outgoing funny teen, to a dumass lazy git, and struggled remembering the past, who i 'was' and the change that went to my personality was savagely dole.
ive done many drugs growing up, but not crack or heroine and strongly believe skunkweed did the most damage as it was more abused because of the grown addiction.
(skunk has been proven not addictive, boolocks! | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 5:09:49 PM | something doesn't have to be 'addictive' to become addicted to it though...
people become addicted to gambling, exercise, work etc....none of those have addictive properties....
if someone has an addictive personality they can become addicted to anything... | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 5:17:01 PM | | agreed...problem with drugs is that there are groups of people that can use em with few problems and walk away, but for some people they just push all wrong buttons and just take over their lives. Is it really worth the risk to find out that your one of them? | |
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| Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 5:35:38 PM | It depends on the definition of addicted though. Possibly when something starts to cause damage to your life and/or well being. There's also physical or psychological addiction.
I find it odd that the message seems to be, alcohol is ok, drugs are bad. The just say no message doesn't work. You can tell people all the scare stories you like about using, it probably won't put them off. As for the does cannabis cause mental health problems, it's widely accepted that use of cannabis can cause psychosis in some people, however, it has also been suggested that the people who do end up having psychotic episodes would probably be at risk anyway, the use just accelerates the process.
As for exercise not being addictive, I would think that the natural high people get after working out can make it very addictive indeed. You decriminalise cannabis, you give people the choice to use safely and you take the pushers out of the equation. | |
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