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 JONRAINHAM

Joined: 5/18/2009
Msg: 101
Cannabis.... Would you encourage or discourage?
Posted: 6/19/2009 5:45:54 PM
Iff i was an old man, acheived all ambissions,i was in pain suffering from arthritis and turning mental anyway, then ill quite happily rock on my chair smoking a pipe!
 Loose_end

Joined: 9/12/2006
Msg: 102
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:59:39 PM
It's been many a year since i smoked dope....Although i have loads in my house. That all came from being a taxi driver for many years, it's surprising what people leave in the car.......

I wouldnt encourage anyone to use it to be honest, all it ever did for me was make me want to sleep.........Great for a good nights kip then

I dont think non-users would gain anything from it other than the ability to say 'yes, i have tried it'

If it helps with peoples pain, then the choice to use it should be there's and not the states.
 SwanSpirit

Joined: 10/30/2008
Msg: 103
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Posted: 6/20/2009 5:59:28 AM
Quote: [agreed...problem with drugs is that there are groups of people that can use em with few problems and walk away, but for some people they just push all wrong buttons and just take over their lives. Is it really worth the risk to find out that your one of them?]

Well said Fly. That sums it up nicely.
 sundayraver

Joined: 4/14/2009
Msg: 104
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Posted: 6/21/2009 3:42:30 AM
Weed is great, it really brings out the mangled trippy feeling a couple of hours after the pills kick in
 loboto-me

Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 105
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Posted: 6/21/2009 10:51:54 AM
I'd definitely recommend a smoke if the person was strung out on powders, or having a bad acid trip
 Nelly_77

Joined: 9/22/2008
Msg: 106
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Posted: 6/22/2009 2:38:28 PM
I would neither encourage or discourage you, as most people on here are saying, adults have the ability to make their own choices, but I am not a smoker, used to smoke it fairly regularly when I was younger, I disagree with so much on the drugs arguements, I don't believe dope leads to harder drugs, I don't even believe weed is addictive, I think its more an excuse and they just need something to lighten their otherwise wasted existence. As far as i'm concerned the only addictive part in a joint is the tobacco.
Anyway back to the point if you want to try it do it!! It won't kill you and you won't become a junkie from one joint. Although its not really relaxing you don't chill out with a joint you "mong out" it turns you into a crap spouting, giggly idiot who can't be bothered to move.

I've always said don't knock it til you've tried it, and I don't knock heroin or receiving anal sex!
 lucyfurry

Joined: 9/3/2008
Msg: 107
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Posted: 6/22/2009 2:50:21 PM
I used to like it, but you know if you give it a miss for a while and then try it again its actually really boring.

It has a kind of repetitiveness built into it for a lot of people, that can see you smoking it everyday simply because you are habituated to it, & the effort involved in getting it is barely worth the end result.
 kaylee wilson

Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 108
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Posted: 6/23/2009 4:28:20 AM
i wouldnt encourage anybody to start smoking cannabis ,that would be a silly thing to do ,but if you want to buy some i can smoke it for you and tell you how it feels lol
 jats_99

Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 109
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Posted: 6/23/2009 4:59:07 AM
Some indiscriminate selective quoting for my own amusement;


There is certainly an argument that having direct experience of things helps you be a better parent


but in so many cases people just become their parents.


to a point where i was spending £20.00 a day


No wonder you were foooked up! Or you were getting a very bad deal.


Iff i was an old man, acheived all ambissions,i was in pain suffering from arthritis and turning mental anyway, then ill quite happily rock on my chair smoking a pipe!


Hey that's me that is

Did you all know it is perfectly legal to sell and own all the equipment required to grow your own. It is even legal to sell and own the seeds, but illegal to grow them.

Read Dilleas and H's post again before posting another anti thread.


but if you want to buy some i can smoke it for you and tell you how it feels lol


I knew I liked you

Heres another thread then, "How many of you have been prescribed meds by your GP? How many of you have had bad experiences of being on tranquilizers at one time or another? How many of you are poppin happy pills like there is no tomorrow, and if you are why are you not declaring it on your POF profile? Why are we all so frigging unhappy?

And before someone pastes a link to a previous thread, I'm sure it can be tweaked to sound slightly different.

 HenXX

Joined: 6/16/2009
Msg: 110
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Posted: 6/23/2009 5:16:26 AM
Thats always my argument jats,prescribed medication is just as damaging but yet its totally acceptable.Me? i would rather stay the miserable git that i am and not take anything,at least ive got the real me.
 loboto-me

Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 111
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Posted: 6/23/2009 7:14:36 AM
Life is full of risks, there are risks attached to everything. You can't expect people not to smoke dope because of the risk. If you follow this argument to its logical conclusion nobody should cross the road cos they might just get run over.

Where dope's concerned I can't put it any better than Johnny Vaughn: "You're walking down the street one night when you bump into a gang of youths, they could be high on alcohol or high on cannabis. Which would you rather? In the first scenario they're looking for trouble, in the second they're looking for biscuits."

Alcohol plays a part in over half of all recorded crime in this day & age, particularly assults & criminal damage
 Whitey1974

Joined: 11/24/2006
Msg: 112
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Posted: 6/23/2009 8:32:12 AM

it isn't addictive, that is a scientific fact!
I would love to know where you got this information. Cannabis can become psychologically addictive to some people use misuse it. Some patients in the inpatient detox unit I work in, do a cannibis detox, along with other treatment. They are prescribed Promazine, to help with anxiety and agitation while they are undertaking a detox.

The same drug is also used for anyone that is doing an amphetatmine or crack/cocaine detox. If it wasn't addictive, there would be no need for anyone to bother doing this.
 *kath*

Joined: 9/30/2008
Msg: 113
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Posted: 6/23/2009 8:57:03 AM
Some people get addicted to cannabis,some alcohol,junk food...Is it really the substance ,or the way the person uses the substance that make it addictive.
 ~Leannie~

Joined: 11/12/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2009 9:05:09 AM
the question was asked about prescribed medication...

i was once prescribed diazepam, and it was lovely!!!!! :))
 jats_99

Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 115
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Posted: 6/25/2009 5:55:51 PM
^^^^ I used to work with a girl who was popping those, she was always happy had a lovely smile and became the life and soul of the office.

When she wasn't staring at a wall


Edit: VVVV "and if Luke jumped off a bridge, would you jump off after him?"

My mum used to say that.
 minnx

Joined: 10/10/2008
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Posted: 6/25/2009 6:07:23 PM

To anyone that posted with "I've never tried it" etc, don't post in this thread, why are you posting comments on something you know nothing about?? You're just opinionated busy bodies who have nothing to base their opinion on.


I've never jumped off the roof of a house either but I wouldn't encourage it generally. Some people end up more damaged than others, a bit like cannabis, smoking, motorbikes and lots of other things really.

People are allowed their opinions whether others agree with them or not.
 lynx-1950

Joined: 6/22/2009
Msg: 117
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:22:04 AM

It is a common misconception that cannabis is a gateway drug, to harder drugs such as heroin or crack/cocaine. The gateway drug is alcohol, not cannabis.


Hello whitey. I know this to be true but I do think it introduces them to the drug world in general. Dealers will offer vulnerable people hard drugs in the hope they will become hooked.
 BERTIE99

Joined: 6/22/2009
Msg: 118
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:32:30 AM
never encourage, you find people who take this tend to NEED to take it every day for one reason or another and depending on their character, they may feel the need for that extra "buzz" and nove on to the harder stuff
 jats_99

Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 119
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Posted: 6/26/2009 12:32:37 AM

People are allowed their opinions whether others agree with them or not


Abso bloody lutely, but, do most of you ever question them?
 Whitey1974

Joined: 11/24/2006
Msg: 120
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Posted: 6/26/2009 1:55:35 AM
People are allowed their opinions whether others agree with them or not.
What are their opinions based on?
Both.

Knowledge?
I have passed several drug courses, including Substance Misuse Management which I studied at the Metropolitan University in Manchester, 2 years ago. I also work for the NHS, as a Substance Misuse worker.

Experience?
All through my 20's I have taken drugs, mainly harder drugs like Crack or Heroin, so I believe I am qualified to post.

When I posted earlier that cannabis can become psychologically addicted, you dismissed it as oh anyone can get psychologically addicted to anything like cheese. Heroin is physically addictive, Crack isn't. It is psychologically addictive, like cannabis.
 ~Leannie~

Joined: 11/12/2008
Msg: 121
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Posted: 6/26/2009 2:27:30 AM

Should we not do things or ban them because "some" people are incapible of handling them responsibily, no as that would be silly.


if this were to happen cannabis would be miles down the list...alcohol would be the top culprit.
 Whitey1974

Joined: 11/24/2006
Msg: 122
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Posted: 6/26/2009 2:35:38 AM

if this were to happen cannabis would be miles down the list...alcohol would be the top culprit.
If alcohol were to be discovered today, without a doubt it would be a class A drug. The top culprit would be be tobacco though, around 117,000 people die each year from smoking related illnesses.

Cannabis doesn't kill anyone, but it is illegal for good reason though.
 ~Leannie~

Joined: 11/12/2008
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Posted: 6/26/2009 2:48:00 AM
the statement though was about people being unable to handle the substance responsibly....

tobacco, to my knowledge doesn't really change a persons behaviour, therefore responsible use doesn't really apply to tobacco in the context implied.
 Paulinemab

Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 124
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Posted: 6/26/2009 2:57:55 AM

To anyone that posted with "I've never tried it" etc, don't post in this thread, why are you posting comments on something you know nothing about?? You're just opinionated busy bodies who have nothing to base their opinion on.



Really? Such as addiction workers who don't use substances themselves or people who have experiences of addiction in their own families? Just because people don't use substances doesn't mean that their lives haven't been touched by drugs.
Even if theirs haven't that doesn't mean they aren't entitled to an opinion. So only people who smoke cannabis can have an opinion on it? I've got a post grad in alcohol and drug studies, I've been working with people who use drugs for 14 years, I've worked in drug rehabs. I've also known people who smoked cannabis day in day out for years at a time and who couldn't give it up. I also live somewhere that is full of people who use and unfortunately deal drugs. But even if none of those things applied to me, I'd still be entitled to post.

You don't need personal experience of every subject on this board to be able to post on it. Just because someone doesn't smoke cannabis, don't make the mistake that they know nothing about it, or drugs.

It would be a sad day if to be able to make a post on here about something, you had to have personal experience of the subject matter.
 minnx

Joined: 10/10/2008
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Posted: 6/26/2009 3:18:30 AM

What are their opinions based on?
Knowledge?
Experience?
No, it's based upon nothing. You know what I do if I don't know enough about something? I keep my mouth shut



Experience/reason/logic/judgement/knowledge have never been prerequisites for posting in this forum. The wide range of views, from the sublime to the ridiculous, are what makes the forum interesting and sparks the debate.

Quite frankly some of the more 'informed' posts in the forum (not this thread) from apparently knowledgeable people sometimes make my blood boil with their lack of compassion and sensitivity, but if that is their opinion they have the right to air it. And those of us who are stupid also have the right to air our ill informed opinions.

As far as I'm concerned no poster has the right to tell others not to post.

OT : No experience of cannabis, and no interest. I have my own vices, caffeine and nicotine, so each to their own as far as I'm concerned.
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