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 Xchuck

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Who Killed TUPAC? Is He ALIVE Today???
Posted: 12/31/2007 11:43:12 PM
Physically he is dead but his spirit is alive and well and living inside the body of Lindsay Lohan. That might explain her sudden addiction to cocaine and rap music
 RedCassandra

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Posted: 1/1/2008 12:32:56 AM

Who Killed TUPAC? Is He ALIVE Today???


My sources say he is hiding in the cave.
Together with Bruce Lee, Elvis and Merilin.

 Makaveli2008

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Posted: 7/6/2008 10:35:26 PM
R.I.P Tupac Shakur.
may you find the peace you were seeking in death that you could never find in life.
 Makaveli2008

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Posted: 7/6/2008 10:47:38 PM
The uncontested facts:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996 Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital.
He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.
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The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.)

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power.

In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42).

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

In Tupac's song "Made Niggaz" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "F*ck 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a muthaf*ckin' made nigga I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.



In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...." Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted." It seems as if Tupac foretold the future.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up...which is another image of resurection. Towards the end of the video, it becomes slightly apparent that Tupac is actually portrayed by a look-alike. I still wonder, if he is really dead, then why do they keep making everyone so suspicious???

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur". The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus?

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times.

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him. (for more info on his death, click here.)

After the shooting of Notorious B.I.G. on March 9th, 1997 Lieutenant Wayne Petersen of the the homicide division of the Las Vegas Police Department who has been investigating Shakur's alleged killing said, "Before yesterday, I had never even heard of the Notorious B.I.G. There is no link between the two murders. We think the only connection is in the minds of the media. The media wants to connect the two." If you asked anyone who knows anything about the Tupac case, they would say something about the rivalry between Biggie and Tupac. How will the Las Vegas police ever solve the case if they don't know the basics? The answer is that they won't. C'mon guys, that is pretty pathetic.


According to my friend Roger as well as numerous other sources, in the first three seconds of The 7 Day Theory, the words "Suge shot me" are spoken very softly. Check it out for yourself, but that certainly is suspicious and it must mean something. Click here for the sample as it appears on the CD.

According to Neal, on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background. Click here for the sample.

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

On November 25, 1997 a new 2 Pac album will be released on Jive Records called R U Still Down. It is being released under the name "2 Pac" not "Makaveli". This implies many things...does this mean that "2 pac" is back?

I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.

In the video "Heaven Gotta Ghetto", the license plate of the car that he gets in with the older man reads "61671". Another obvious occurance of the number seven and the sum of seven (6+1).

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.

Doesn't all this sound a bit too ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on. Don't you think?
 boredbroad

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Posted: 7/6/2008 10:54:35 PM
OMG....... Yet another conspiracy theory.......
 Vintage Princess

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Posted: 7/7/2008 12:07:20 AM
aliens. someone told me it was aliens
 W8tn4U

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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:19:38 AM
Tupac is alive, so is Elvis, Walt Disney is cryogenicaly frozen and Oswald didn't work alone. It's all a conspiracy of the MAN.
 Akutenshi

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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:26:00 AM
Chuck Norris killed him.
No coming back from that.
 nuttykitten

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Posted: 7/8/2008 8:18:57 AM

Tupac spelled backward is CAPUT...much like tupac is.


A flame that burned bright and short.


Toonsmith


hahahaha, thats clever, funny, and straight to the point...and most proberbly sadly true....
 partxj32

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Posted: 7/8/2008 2:27:55 PM
Tupacs dead. if he's no who cares?

Hey my grandma died about 7 years ago. Do you guys wanna talk about whether or not she's actually still alive? Aww why not? she did greater things than Tupac. She raised five kids by herself on the salary of a general laborer. All five kids went to college and became very successful.

Tupac wrote what some would jokingly called music. I laughed at the "that man was a poet" comment. I'm unsure of any other poet who'd gladly agree with that statement. Gang violence and the word nigga have never appealed to me as the ideal poetry topic.

Also my grandma never killed anyone.

For no good reason.

Later.
 wizardofossington

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Posted: 7/8/2008 2:36:32 PM
Tupac is in my basement and we are caliberating some new songs coming out in August 2008.

The album is called "Your Mama!"
 iiCeiiCe

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Posted: 7/8/2008 8:12:12 PM
Personally..... I think Suge had him killed....

just my opinion.... how did Suge com out of it unharmed.... seems unlikely that they would miss him accidentally....


I was in Vegas when he was shot... saw him at the Tyson fight the night it happened.... remember hearing the sirens going to the scene.... and wondering what happened... then hearing it on the news the next day...
 boredbroad

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Posted: 7/8/2008 8:27:11 PM
omg.....this is such a ...... censured .......post........
Ohhhh....Dear Mods.......Has it come to this...???? Please let us ...sort the worlds ills....from here........We can take it.........

Don't make us go to other....... sites........ to voice our.... thoughts.......

Please... don't drive us ... away.
 NERO1

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Posted: 7/8/2008 9:23:01 PM
He's dead. Long dead now. I've seen his autopsy pic; it was definitely him opened up on the table.

I take the whole story pretty much at face value basically. No real need for elaborate conspiracy theories there. I believe he was killed after he and his manager (Suge Knight) and some of their entourage beat up the wrong guy in the lobby of a Vegas hotel, basically. You can only get away with doing things like that to people for so long , after all. Who knows how many times they may have gotten in fights like that. Well, this time the guy happened to be a Crip from LA (guy named Orlando Anderson) who evidently was in Vegas that weekend with a few friends (and they had guns in the car -- some say they were being paid by Notorious BIG but that's never been proven).

An entourage like Tupac's and Suge's wasn't hard to spot (or follow). So, when they reached a stoplight they pulled up and shot up the car Tupac was riding in. They didn't give a damn whether he was a rapper or Elvis Presley or just some other gangbanger .... they treated it as they would any similar situation in their hometown. Get beat up by a bunch of guys on a Saturday night, track them down later and shoot up their house, or car, or just gun them down in the street if you can. (Also it probably didn't help Tupac in this instance that Suge and much of Death Row were all known Bloods while the guy they had beaten up was a Crip). A few yrs later the guy who killed Tupac was himself killed in a gang-related shootout at a car wash in LA, I believe.
 welderwantedthis

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Posted: 7/9/2008 3:14:38 AM
Ahhhh...I think the ol' dude is dead, but his greatest fan up there did post some interesting facts. Some that I hadn't heard before. But I still think he is dead.

To the one who says Tupac isn't a poet...how about this my friend, you go look up some of his lyrics...don't listen to it, read them!!!! And just overlook all the 'nigga's' that are in there. He isn't a poet compared to Robert Frost,etc...put the man is still a poet. Honestly, I'm not really big into that type of music, but there are some of Tupac's songs that I love....not just his mainstream known titles, but also some of his lesser known works.

And all the 'nigga's' , etc, etc,....a poets job is to make their reader feel what they feel. To take the reader to a different place. Tupac's world revolved around gangs, drugs, sex, violence, poverty, wealth, fame.....his songs represent his life and he does a pretty good job at making his fans understand how that life was. Guess what? They call each other 'nigga's'....so Tupac has reason to use it in his songs. And I'll tell you this too...'nigga' is MUCH different then ''.

I think I'll start a thread on that.

~Welder's Girl~
 NERO1

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Posted: 7/9/2008 6:48:17 AM
^^ Correct. I agree. The slang "friendly" version of the n word has to be used in rap because without it it would lose all sense of realism. What's he going to use in its place? "Buddy"?? It's like trying to have a gangster movie with no swearing and everyone speaking intelligently. Totally loses its affect for the culture (or subculture really) it's trying to portray.
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