Travan
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Posted: 6/3/2009 5:33:28 AM | Thing is celebrity sizes are just that, ephemeral tastes that aren't real.
There are many men who like women with something to get hold of, there are many who love bigger women like BBW or whatever it is.
There are also men who love the straight up and down shape (and they get called latent gays cos the figure is boyish!) some like the smaller woman with shape (petite?) but, whatever their taste they vary anyway depending on the person.
I've met people who were perfect to me physically and couldn't stay in the same room as them but I've also had great experiences with one woman who was slightly rounded lol simply cos she had a fab personality.
I think it means more to the people themselves worrying about it than to the watchers tbh | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 7:38:19 AM | See some ladies have said about being thin and the comments they get and I think it is worse being a man and being so thin naturally.
I get all the comments you ladies get and some, people also assume I am ill etc etc with no grounds at all
I am just over 5'6" and weigh less than 9 stone which I think is def on the thin side lol | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:12:55 AM | I've always been naturally thin, but have been able to put on weight when I try. I recently tried to put on weight because people were telling me I looked gaunt. Unfortunately it all goes on my belly and little where else, so I'm just going back to normal.
The main reason as far as I know for some people staying thin and others putting on weight is because of the amount of fat cells created in childhood. If you were a big eater when you were young and didn't do enough exercise to work it off you made fat more fat cells to store excess calories. this amount stays with you forever. It never increases or decreases. The amount of fat in these cells can increase or decrease but the people with less fat cells won't store as much fat. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:25:53 AM | I went out with someone who was size 6 and 5ft 6 and always trying to put weight on. I suspect half the reason she had really long hair was its effects on the scales.
Is that really true about fat cells and is there a limit to the amount of fat a cell can store? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:41:43 AM | Apparently so AC. That's what we got told at college. Might be worth googling though. The size of cell grows with the fat so i'm guessing there's no limit.
a good reason to keep the young 'uns fit. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:52:01 AM | Bull. You are what you eat. Give me a week with someone thin that "no matter what they eat cant get fatter" and ill get them to put on weight.
If someone is fat and cant loose weight I can do the reverse.
Frame and body type variations exist but no where near the extent that people would have you believe. Personality probably has more to do with it.
It is 90% down to diet. A processed food diet is bad for us all. There are diet drinks that screw up your metabolism, additives in animal feeds that do the same, media messages that tell us you can eat their crap and be thin etc.
It is quite simple calories in vs calories expended and eat as close to a natural balanced whole food diet as possible.
I read somewhere 1 biscuit a day over your expended calories per day = an extra stone or 2 in weight after a year.. Not hard to see why most people are "over weight" so it it bothers you - it is all down to you to sort out.
If being "overweight" doesn't bother you everyone else can go FK themselves the miserable buggers.... !
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:52:52 AM | Oh, just read a bit and watched a short vid on it. It says kids are more prone to growing fat cells, but adults can grow more (never lose) if they put on weight.
So I guess the trick is to not put on weight or it'll be harder to shift it.
http://uk.truveo.com/Bad-News-Fat-Cells-Never-Go-Away/id/721556004 | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 10:56:37 AM | It is funny - all those pictures/film of what the Nazis did to the Jews and not one of those shows a fat person.
Wonder what was going on with their fat cells ? | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
Msg: 34 | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:02:31 AM |
It is funny - all those pictures/film of what the Nazis did to the Jews and not one of those shows a fat person.
Wonder what was going on with their fat cells ?
Shrank to nothing caused by malnutrition I expect..though not a fair comparison as concentration camp conditions were somewhat different to normal living conditions.
As for whether these fat/thin cells exist..who knows,there once was a time when the cancer gene didnt exist | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:03:01 AM | sorry funky. maybe i didn't explain myself very well.
I do think it was a poor example you asked about, but those jews still had the same amount of fat cells, but they just weren't full of fat.
Another explanation, and there are many, is below. it explains it a bit better.
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/diet-fitness/is-number-fat-cells-you-have-predetermined.html | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:23:08 AM |
Oh, just read a bit and watched a short vid on it. It says kids are more prone to growing fat cells, but adults can grow more (never lose) if they put on weight.
So I guess the trick is to not put on weight or it'll be harder to shift it.
scintillation1 - this is what i was taught also when training to be a nutritionist. This is apparently the reason that lipsuction is not a permanent answer to losing fat. The fat is extracted from the cells but the cells remain and will fill up again. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:36:23 AM | I think I have read too that thin people use more energy - not through their base metabolism, as a fat person's is higher anyway - but because they are constantly on the move.
They fidget, they twitch, they tap their toes and drum their fingers, they blink more often, never at rest, even when sitting "doing nothing". Apparently it all adds up to greater expenditure of calories.
I HATE fidgetters with a passion - explains a lot and that's my excuse to which I am sticking! | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:55:02 AM | Funkymonkee ...
Bull. You are what you eat. Give me a week with someone thin that "no matter what they eat cant get fatter" and ill get them to put on weight.
If someone is fat and cant loose weight I can do the reverse.
Frame and body type variations exist but no where near the extent that people would have you believe. Personality probably has more to do with it.
It is 90% down to diet. A processed food diet is bad for us all. There are diet drinks that screw up your metabolism, additives in animal feeds that do the same, media messages that tell us you can eat their crap and be thin etc.
It is quite simple calories in vs calories expended and eat as close to a natural balanced whole food diet as possible.
I read somewhere 1 biscuit a day over your expended calories per day = an extra stone or 2 in weight after a year.. Not hard to see why most people are "over weight" so it it bothers you - it is all down to you to sort out.
If being "overweight" doesn't bother you everyone else can go FK themselves the miserable buggers.... !
Sorry but thats rubbish, i eat terribly, crisps, chocolate,biscuits,cakes and i have been a size 6 - 8 bottom 8-10 top for years.
I am not too thin though as i'm only 5ft2 but i still get comments about being underweight of people, we just have to take it yet if you make comments about someone being overweight it's taken as an insult. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:01:53 PM | Perhaps slightly off topic, but anniesea reminded me of something.
If someone does exercise, for the rest of the day they will burn calories faster than if they had not exercised, even when they're sleeping. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:06:13 PM | I watched something a while back on naturally thin people. Can't remember what it was but I think Paul McKenna did it. They basically said that people who were deemed to be or claimed they were naturally thin showed certain traits. As said above some of those were fidgeting. Other were how they ate. Particularly relevant was that these people are generally slow eaters. Because it takes approximately 20 minutes for the stomach to send the signal to the brain that its full, people who eat slowly stop eating sooner as their brain has time to register the information sooner. Also people who chew their food well before swallowing. This also allows the brain to receive the correct signals and it's also proven that the more liquified food is the longer the body feels full. So I guess some people are naturally thin, but my opinion is that it's down to what you do rather than genetics.
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:08:46 PM | scousebrummie..i have noticed that with myself and naturally slim friends the difference is that we rarely sit down to the 3 big meals a day but prefer to eat little and often, i look like i'm always eating yet rarely eat a proper meal.
I don't know if this makes a difference though. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:09:57 PM | Personally I put my current chubbiness down to a lack of serious sh*gg*ng. Actually any sh*gg*ng. I had a girlfriend who lived in foreign climes who used to feed me like I was a warrior and still manage to sh*g 3/4 of a stone in weight off me in a week.
I think exercise has as much to do with getting fat/holding weight as diet and the 'Foregin Method' was far, far more enjoyable than any gym. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:10:38 PM | Fat people cannot starve to death....
HTH | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:32:48 PM | Some good comments here. It's interesting to see that thin people don't have it all easy it would appear they just don't seem to moan about it so much. I guess part of that is due to the stigma associated with being overweight and the need to defend oneself.
Funky -I'm thinking of booking a place on the "Fit with Funky" course - I need to lose about 7 pounds can you shift it?
The fat cell thing is interesting, we all know that fat cells exist so I don't think they can be compared to the fat gene debate. It would explain too the yo yo dieting phenomenon and why it is a constant battle for fat people to shed the weight and keep it off.
Of course I know that fat people can lose weight and become slim - show me someone who says they can't lose weight no matter what they do and I'll show them a gastric band, I've never seen one fail to result in a decent weight loss.
As a further point for debate, I was chatting to someone today who said that she thought her overweight friend was very attractive and pretty but didn't understand why she seemed to be more popular with men than herself who is much thinner. Being lost for words I didn't respond but wondered if anyone has ever been in same boat and felt cheated that their fat mate has scored and they haven't? Is thinking like that really prejudicial to the friend? Are they a friend at all? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 1:26:16 PM | I think there must be something genetic in it, as my parents both eat the same meals, although my dad generally has larger portions, and my mum does more exercise than him, yet my dad has always been slim, and my mum fought with her weight for years.
I take after my dad in that I'm naturally slim with quite fine bones, and my brother tends to get a bit chunky if he's not careful about what he eats and the amount of exercise he does. (At 6'4" he can get away with a bit of extra weight though!)
I get really sick of people telling me I don't eat properly, (especially when the plate in front of me has exactly the same size meal on it as the plate in front of them) and I probaly have got a bit over-sensitive about it on occasion. I'm not obsessed with my weight, but sometimes other people seem to be, and it's really none of their business! | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 1:29:24 PM |
As a further point for debate, I was chatting to someone today who said that she thought her overweight friend was very attractive and pretty but didn't understand why she seemed to be more popular with men than herself who is much thinner.
Maybe her friend is more approachable/prettier/more blonde/more bubbly/not so obsessed with her weight?
Being lost for words I didn't respond but wondered if anyone has ever been in same boat and felt cheated that their fat mate has scored and they haven't?
Being thin doesn't automatically give you more chance with men. There are men who like thin ladies, men who like cuddly ladies, and men who like very cuddly ladies indeed.
Fortunately most of us realise that people are attracted to someone for a number of reasons, not just their size. If a man is attracted to my friend I would put it down to the fact that she's a lovely person, not that she's bigger than me.
Is thinking like that really prejudicial to the friend? Are they a friend at all?
With all due respect to your friend I'm just glad she's not my friend. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 1:33:25 PM | In some respects perhaps thin people who can shovel junk down their throats should be regarded as dangerously at risk of heart disease, stroke, cancer etc. If diets are that poor they may remain healthy and slim looking on the outside but what are they doing inside?
Perhaps an eternal slightly overweight weight watcher who tries to eat a mainly healthy diet and pursue a more active lifestyle out of necessity is much more of a hottie on the inside than his/her slim counterpart.
Maybe the curvy weightwatcher will be yours for much longer in the whole scheme of things.
Right enough of this I'm going to munch on a cranberry. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 1:54:02 PM |
I've always been naturally thin and its hell, Im 5ft 1 and 6 stne, nothing helps me put weight on, didnt even put on any when i was pregnant.
wear lots of thick jumpers ...? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 2:31:08 PM |
It is funny - all those pictures/film of what the Nazis did to the Jews and not one of those shows a fat person
That is an extremely sick and insensitive comment. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 2:46:01 PM | | Ain't it down to both genetics for the tendencies for thin-ness and fat-ness, and the cultural preferences for whether your particular body-shape is the hip and trendy shape-du-jour? | |
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