| Whats the Issue With Men in Australia ..
Posted: 6/24/2009 4:22:37 PM |
You want something really hilarious? This is a message I received, copy and pasted exactly as I got it *hi iread youe frofile, would you like to met up.* My neighbour's cat would be able to do better just walking across the keyboard.
It would seem to me that it doesnt matter where you go you will have that happen, I know plenty of Brits that would think that was really how you said it. Besides if your suggesting that it is only Australian males that are like that, you need to get out more.
If your suggesting that in order to be a great person you need to write well maybe your looking in the wrong direction. Thats more a failure of the education system than the man himself, its really only in the last ten years that there has been a push to actually make sure that getting to high school means that you have to be able to read and write. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2009 5:55:53 PM |
ossie men just conjure up images of sheilas,beer ,crocs and trying to prove their masculinity, ... Mate Crocodile Dundee was a moooviee!!! der  If Aussies drew conclusions in a similar way I wonder what "The full Monty" says about English men???!!!!  | |
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Posted: 6/24/2009 8:40:51 PM | Hey OP...
I'm going to have to agree with ya on your recognition of cultural differences. I'm not sure all my experiences with Aussie guys has been the same as yours, but I've definitely noticed the difference. I'm from Canada and I'm going into my second year of studying abroad down here. I've noticed the differences aren't with just the men, it's the women as well.
Aussie women tend to be... Tamer? I'm not sure that's the right word. Maybe reserved is better? Anyway they're certainly quieter than we North American gals. There's a huge influx of Yankee students down here every semester and before even really meeting them or hearing their accent you can usually spot the Yanks. They're usually dressed with a different style and a hell of a lot louder than anyone else in the room. I think that might be part of your issue with the Aussie guys. If they're only used to Aussie women who're (at least initially) much tamer and quieter than North American women, you're gotta shock the thongs right off 'em when you come out speaking your mind and having opinions and stuff.
Also, I've noticed age makes a HUGE difference down here. Australia is a wildly male dominated society which means that the male child is sure as hell gunna be brought up to be a very masculine child. Most guys I've met down here are still firmly attached to momma's apron strings (no matter how far they have to stretch to reach them.) The ones your age tend to be sorta immature and not necessarily see the world beyond the end of their nose. Try the older guys. They're usually a little more wordly and easier to understand.
I'll finish off with a warning that a family friend gave me before coming down here. She came to Aus for a few months back packing when she was younger. She said, "Kate, you're a strong, independent and very opinionated young lady... You might not like Australia. They're like 20 years behind the rest of the world." I'm not sure how accurate she was about the 20 years behind bit, but the male/female attitudes I've noticed down here definitely make me think of the 1960's. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2009 10:47:41 PM | I'll finish off with a warning that a family friend gave me before coming down here. She came to Aus for a few months back packing when she was younger. She said, "Kate, you're a strong, independent and very opinionated young lady... You might not like Australia. They're like 20 years behind the rest of the world." I'm not sure how accurate she was about the 20 years behind bit, but the male/female attitudes I've noticed down here definitely make me think of the 1960's
THATS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULLDUST IVE EVER HEARD | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 12:34:41 AM |
I'm not sure how accurate she was about the 20 years behind bit, but the male/female attitudes I've noticed down here definitely make me think of the 1960's That is probably a really good thing and FYI thats 40+ years not 20, yup good old America is so advanced that they still feel the need to "Bear Arms" and then wonder why any argument seems to result in the gunfight at OK Coral....I could go on and on about that one. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 1:49:19 AM |
That is probably a really good thing and FYI thats 40+ years not 20, yup good old America is so advanced that they still feel the need to "Bear Arms" and then wonder why any argument seems to result in the gunfight at OK Coral....I could go on and on about that one.
Obviously it's 40+ years... Mind you it was the late 80's when she came down here, so from her experience, it's not too far off. But I'm not making excuses for the obvious lack of math abilities on my part. I was just making a comment. No need to nit-pick...
And sweets, I'm from Canada, like I said. I wasn't talking about foreign policy just the gender relationships I've observed. If you wanna go off on America, go nuts. Just don't direct your arguments at me because it's not exactly relevant. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 3:52:16 AM | ^^^ (SARCASM ON) be careful Kats, since we can't pick on Indian students anymore, you Canadians make a pretty nice target (SARCASM OFF)
Truth is, Australia is behind. Very, very, very damn far behind... But behind isn't always such a bad thing... is it? | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 4:16:16 AM | I take it that you are speaking of the ability to recognise that in social situations there is a lack of "equality" perceived by the female in the attitudes of the male, and a lack of ability in younger males to see that the way to exit a relationship is to communicate the reasons......thats cos they are sh*t scared of looney aussie chicks!!
As witnessed on this site good aussie blokes are dashed for speaking up on a daily basis...and are prone to reverting to the phrase coined by Ringo Starr in his first real acting job (and i think last).......Atouk alounda Tala...(doent matter what it means)............it was the setting that counts.........
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Posted: 6/25/2009 4:46:21 AM |
If they're only used to Aussie women who're (at least initially) much tamer and quieter than North American women, you're gotta shock the thongs right off 'em when you come out speaking your mind and having opinions and stuff.
She came to Aus for a few months back packing when she was younger. She said, "Kate, you're a strong, independent and very opinionated young lady... You might not like Australia.
I do kind of know what you mean, but it seems to me that you are describing subcultures you have encountered, rather than the entire population. Like every impression formed about a new country, it will depend to a great extent on the circles you mix in. If you're backpacking around a country you meet a lot of other travelers and a certain subset of that host-country's population. I can assure you that there are plenty of Aussie women who are neither tame nor reserved in their thinking or their self-expression. Aussie women who speak their mind and have strong opinions (worth having) are perhaps busy running corporations rather than to be found staying in Aussie backpackers.  Actually, there are a number of women who post on this forum from time to time who I consider intelligently opinionated.
I agree with you that being a woman who speaks her mind makes some people (men and women) uncomfortable. However I think that applies in every country. I also think there are plenty of people who are entirely comfortable with strong, intelligent, principled, opinionated, outspoken women... in every country. I also think there are some women who think they are strong, intelligent, principled, opinionated and outspoken but have quite apparently confused being loud and vocal with having something worth saying... in every country.
Overall, it's perhaps more productive to find and hang out with the people you most enjoy being around based on complementary personalities and outlooks on life, rather than generalising about all inhabitants of any one country based on the demographic you seem to be meeting. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 5:38:53 AM | one "issue" with aussie men is that we are the "issue" of aussie women... and have grown up with them all our lives... for the most part .. even more so these days.. the women have more "control" day to day over all the children ...than the men folk do... even in schools/care....
so if fathers aren't teaching aussie kids to be "men" and the women aren't doing it either...(if they seem so unhappy with us after all that influence)..
then.. we are what we are.... or what we've lost, perhaps....
but still here nonetheless.... our fault again?....oooooops..  | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 6:57:53 AM | whats the deal with aussie women too?
i fly all this way to meet some beer swilling aussie sheila....
and then i find they've become all cultured and stuff...
its not fair at all i tells ya! | |
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Posted: 6/25/2009 7:09:58 AM | We call it an Aussie past time...(the big OE)...they bugger off to europe when they turn 19 and come back full of themselves cos they shagged some eurotrash in the back of the contiki tour bus when they were full of sangria, or cheap spanish plonk.........and had a coffe at some grotty little cafe on a smelly french side street......
its the opposite for Aussie blokes, they go away meek meagre and shy, hit the ground in London and turn into instant a@#eholes, all of a sudden they love Fosters for F$%K sake.........when they get back they spend the next 20yrs trying to recreate the night in ibetha when they nearly shagged a couple of E dosed pommie or american chicks in a bar full of bubbles while having their ears assulted by duff duff music......
Ahh the culture of it all.
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Posted: 6/25/2009 7:35:19 AM |
I love this country and not all men are like this but rub their polish hard and it is rare to find a diamond most are tinnies, sport, and thongs underneath the PC veneer especially in a crowd.
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Posted: 6/26/2009 4:41:28 AM |
In the dating world in Australia, are things done differently? It feels like it's a little game, something I'm not used to..and quite frankly, I don't like it.
Yes Seniorita, it is a game ... and I don't like it either. It's a game called, "You like me more than I like you." The object is to make as many points as possible by making the other person:
a) Want you to call (2 points),.
b) Actually calls you (5 points)
c) Go somewhere they don't want to go (10 points),
d) Do something they don't want to do (Drinking with your boozy mates (men) - Escort to and stay at Tupperware party or similar (women) will get you 10 points, something sexually degrading for for women will get their "boyfriend" 25 points, 50 if she cries, socially degrading for men like dancing classes will get a "girlfriend" 25 points, unless she picks up the dance teacher and lets "boyfriend" walk home 100 points, unless the dance teacher's girlfriend also walks home 150 points.
We understand that this can be confusing so coaches are available for foreign students wanting to learn to "do it" the Australian way.
WHO says I'm not a Player ... If this young woman takes up my coaching offer I am in line for a 25 point bonus (Young woman goes out with man old enough to be her father).
All opinions and points made in this post are in jest and while you are welcome to get as offended as you like, please don't request that I cry (100 points for the woman). | |
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Posted: 6/26/2009 6:33:12 PM | OP,
hello from the States! I hope that you are enjoying the beauty of Australia.
Men are the same the world over. Some great, some not so great. The behavior that you are describing is common everywhere these days. Just look at the US posts.
Don't sit and wonder --get out and socialize. You'll find some great people there.
Join a few local groups and get involved in your area. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2009 5:12:52 AM | Obviously it's 40+ years... Mind you it was the late 80's when she came down here, so from her experience, it's not too far off. But I'm not making excuses for the obvious lack of math abilities on my part. I was just making a comment. No need to nit-pick... Perhaps I should have looked at your profile a little sooner but, seeing as you didnt look 40, It was just a cheeky remark wondering how you could have related Aussie's to people in the 60's at all, my point was though that the US and its people run around thinking how advanced they are, compared to others, and yet some of their ideals seem to belong in the 1800's, it really had very little to do with you at all more an example. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2009 8:36:33 PM | | just to correct a previous poster's litercy ... being 'opiniated 'is not really a good thing to be . It does not mean that you have an opinion re an issue . Humbly yours , nevaagin , however passionate defence of one's opinion is OK but always think ahead and though you may well be a 'strong' woman , others of us just think we are women , human beings who happen to be women and we may be strong or not strong . What is a 'strong' woman ? What exactly do you mean ?And , of course , the corollary , what is a weak woman ? | |
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Posted: 6/28/2009 2:46:07 PM | A while ago I was discussing "the man drought" on another website forum and did some research:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Products/3235.0~2006~Main+Features~New+South+Wales?OpenDocument
So *all* the men live in the city and Auburn while *all* the women live in Mosman and Woollahra! Anyone see some potential socioeconomic, cultural and political problems here? 
However it may not be all bad for you ladies as there are more men then women in total world population.
Once again, I hope this helps! | |
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Posted: 6/28/2009 7:10:40 PM | Message 54 - Why do you come on these threads all angry all the time? Are you actually looking to meet someone because all those people out there are reading everything you write. I was warned about that when I used to write things in the "sex and dating" forum.
By the way - Before you start defending the whole of Australia try moving over here to SA and then tell me they are not behind the times.....................geez louise. I come from Melbourne and I got a real culture shock when we moved here.
So just make sure you know what you're on about before yelling at everyone. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2009 5:04:59 AM | There is no issue with the men in Australia it is just a cultural difference. Here they are brought up or in some cases dragged up to rely upon there mates.
They keep everything close to there chest so nobody can hurt them, or take the piss out of them.
If you want information out of them you will not ask a direct question but put it as an example of something that has happened to someone else, because then they can answer without loosing face. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2009 10:16:47 PM | Message 54 - Why do you come on these threads all angry all the time? Are you actually looking to meet someone because all those people out there are reading everything you write. I was warned about that when I used to write things in the "sex and dating" forum.
umm sweetie i dont i think that what she said was a bunch of bull dust we are not that far behind thats all im saying | |
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Posted: 6/30/2009 1:45:37 AM |
Thats more a failure of the education system than the man himself, its really only in the last ten years that there has been a push to actually make sure that getting to high school means that you have to be able to read and write.
It was one line, that was all he wrote, and how much of that one short line did he get right? As I said that is a copy and paste so all spacing, punctuation and caps are exactly as I received it. I will overlook occasional typos and spelling mistakes as it is a natural thing for humans to make mistakes, no big deal. However if you cannot manage a single short line that is likely to interfere with your ability to communicate successfully via any text based medium.
I am not saying that makes him a bad person, just that he is highly unlikely to have the intellectual capacity to be of interest to me.
I agree that this happens with people from any country. In fact I have noticed that America seems to have the highest number of people who have not mastered basic English, followed by Australia and, in general, the English, do much better. Yes I am making broad statements based only on my personal experience of various online forums, blogs and news sites.
I guess given that the population of Australia is so small, the number of literate folk might be the same percentage wise, but just end up being numerically less, and therefore less obvious.
*goes off to get a passport sorted* | |
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Posted: 7/1/2009 6:56:41 AM | Hogan portrayed a comedic character and Irwin was so sucessful because of the dramatic compassion that he brought to his shows?????
so how does this create a bad impression, funny passionate intelligent and artistic people that are driven to succeed and promote australia around the globe
Croikey mate Pull your head in! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 7:07:52 AM | You've a certain sartorial eloquence
And a style that's almost of your own
You've got the knack of being so laid-back
It's like talking to the great Unknown
Was he singing about aussies?
Random, im not an Aussie, but i suppose a man of your intelligence grace and style would definitely be a true blue Aussie.......from Sydney! | |
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