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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/15/2009 2:21:04 PM | | Like you, Pete, I do not let anyone dictate the age of the women I am required by their rational to date. Maybe it's just my nature but I refuse to drink any PC Kool- Aid whatsoever. I try to keep things simple and nice by dating women I find attractive, who find me attractive and who are pleasant companions, joyful about life , sexy as can be and fun to be around. It has been many a moon since I have dated a woman less than 15 years younger than myself. Things have just worked that way for me. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/15/2009 2:30:44 PM | Dr. Cecil Long, director of infertility services for Birmingham's Assisted Reproductive Technology
<div class="quote"> Long says that while men can potentially conceive children well into their 70s, there's evidence that advancing age can effect their DNA. Recent studies by the Centers for Disease Control show an association between increased paternal age and genetic diseases. Furthermore, studies show that 2 percent of children born to men 50 and older will have schizophrenia, three times higher than children born to fathers in their early 20s...We are finding out that there can be some difficulties that arise later in a man's life, starting around 42 to 45 years old.
I can quote other sources, but really I am so tired of even women trying to say men don't have a biological clock. They do. Men that used to masturbate every day have to decide between that and having sex with a woman at a certain point or he won't be able to cum. These are medical facts that anyone can google. There was a study in England not too long ago showing decrease in intelligence in relationship with the age of the child's father. It doesn't mean that the older father OR mother will have problems, it is just a fact that as humans age our child bearing years are decreased and problems increase.
I have seen men on here and irl that do exercise every day or frequently that love women no matter their age. Going out with someone younger or older doesn't make him a stud or anything else. He should be going out with the person. Who wants to go out with someone not interested in them and can't see their own age?
I have gone out with men younger and older. A man younger or older that exercises, you can call them gym rats if you want, it is your insecurities that make you call them that, is taking care of his health. I know that I didn't care for men that didn't exercise, couldn't touch their toes, looked like a baby whale, etc. Often the men that don't exercise regularly make excuses and aren't in the best of health. Some also lie about attracting younger women, they aren't dating at all. An unhealthy wrinkly man is gross at any age. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/15/2009 3:06:17 PM | | I am familiar with the article you refer to. At the end of the article it was stated the chances of a birth defect as a result of fertility by an older man was extremely small. Was stated in terms of probably and I do not remember the exact quantity but the article went on to say that any couple in this situation should not refrain from having children based on this research. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/15/2009 3:57:21 PM | There was a study in England not too long ago showing decrease in intelligence in relationship with the age of the child's father. It doesn't mean that the older father OR mother will have problems, it is just a fact that as humans age our child bearing years are decreased and problems increase. hmmm looks like I screwed up above quotes on my previous post; however, Bull did you miss this statement, seems like it is some clear English. You really want to have a baby Bull? Staying up all night with a colicky baby, you go for it...butttt the older you are the higher risks and the lesser your sperm count, those are facts. Why do you think they recommend amniocentesis all the time? People age, eggs age and sperm isn't produced in as large of quantities or by a young virile man. It doesn't take a scientist to know that facts are facts.
You think you attract young women, go for it. You want to have children, go for it. I again have said, I think it should be the person, not the age. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/15/2009 10:48:07 PM | "Dont let these guys lead you to believe that the young american girls are chasing them.
Most younger females of today are too independent and educated. They dont need a man for his money, unlike their foreign young counterparts -ukraine, russian, asian females....those girls are desperate and will give up their young bodies, and basically their dreams. Its the lesser of the 2 evils I imagine, for some poor foreign girl.
The American girl on the other hand will only play with an older man to maybe get her through some tough financial straits. But love him....I guess it they have goals of changing his bed pan while other women her age are enjoying their youth with a man of their own age!"
OMG Not Just A Face from Frackville you are just too frackin funny. Younger females too educated. Though your state is next door on the map you must be living on a different planet than me. All I need to do is read a few posts from these younger girls, or should I say try to read since what they are writing in does not appear to be related to English.
So you honestly believe that all foreign women are desperate. Have you never seen the cartoon comparing women from Paris, Kentucky to Paris, France? Perhaps we older men have better eye sight. And these ladies from Eastern Europe are not giving up their bodies nor their dreams. If anything it is some of the crowd herein who have given up their bodies, why so many men here look elsewhere. Cows may be sacred in India but...... These ladies are not going after the lesser of 2 evils; they end up with good men who appreciate them and who just happen to live in a country with endless opportunities of which they can avail themselves, a country that is full of amenities that many of the natives have forgotten to be thankful for.
Goals of changing bed pans.... I will admit to having a thing for nurses but bed pans are not in my future if I can help it. Perhaps some of the wimps who frequent this place use them. But real men who are not afraid to speak their mind, not afraid of feminists nor PC nazis, no we do not have a place for them though I suppose in a pinch a bed pan could pass (sic) for mixing cement or washing engine parts. Come to think of it you could probably use one in the oven. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 5:39:53 AM | Like you, Pete, I do not let anyone dictate the age of the women I am required by their rational to date.
this post and pete's before it beg the question; what is it that you do LET someone dictate for you? i cannot think of anything even worth mentioning regarding what i don't LET people dictate. seems obvious. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 6:02:36 AM |
Everyone wants what they want, thats why they usually end up alone! lol! Lets face it, without a whole lot of compromise, usually on the part of the woman,lol! none of us would be in a relationship. ugh....why am I doing this again?
good point lady di. i spent a couple years after my divorce staying completely away from you pretty things. just wanted to see if i can really be happy all by my lonesome. turns out that indeed i can and am. so my next relationship will require very little work or compromise or it won't happen. in fact, already didn't happen on a couple occasions. and that's just hunky dorey with me. happy as a clam and ain't nobody going to mess it up and i'll live alone forever if necessary. on the other hand, i know there's more than a few ladies out there that feel as i do at this stage of our lives. i know that because i've talked to a few from this site. if they weren't so far away i'd be working it now. but i am one resourceful sob so who knows. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 6:27:04 AM | I think men or women should date whomever they like. I do! I've dated and been in relationships with much younger men for over 25 years. Men have the right to do the same, in the women they choose.
If we (men and women) still look good to younger people, still attract younger, I say go for it! If that is your choice. While at my age, I would not date a man under 45 (Maybe! Just depends on the man ), I have dated half my age in the past.
Some of the younger men have been more mature than some of the older ones. But! I am not attracted to men who have let their bodies go! Regardless of their age.
Being alone is not a bad thing. I'd rather be alone than to be with someone I was not happy with. I would not be in a relationship just to say "I have a man". If that were the case, I'd probably be dating every day of the week, and never be without a man in my life!
Even when there is no man in my life, I am not alone. I have family, friends, "a life" that is great! But when I do choose the next man to be in my life, he will be one who meets all of my search criteria. Not just a nice body. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 10:44:33 AM | Let me propose an analogy folks;
Someone is let's say, 16 yrs old. They look around them and see people in all kinds of economic circumstance in in their later years. Some have saved and invested in their futures and are well fixed in their later years. Maybe they even had an inheritance that they invested wisely as well. They didn't deny themselves outright, but were disciplined and forward looking with their financial matters. As a result they are enjoying a relatively worry free time and have plenty laid by to sustain them well into the future. Having done the proper prep work, they have options in life that those who have not prepared in a similar manner do not. They can take vacations, shop anywhere they want, simply put, they live as they choose while those with less foresight are limited in their choices by comparison.
It's not hard to imagine that those who've been less than careful about planning their futures might see those who have, as having shallow values coated in materialism and crass mercantile concerns. This tends not to faze the folks who have seen to their futures, as they're too busy enjoying the lives they've prepared for themselves. Some may look upon these smart planners as very savvy to have realized these success strategies so early in life, while members of the "live now,pay later" crowd, derides them for their seemingly abstemious lifestyle. But in the long run, as we recall the fable of the ant and the grasshopper, we know who has the last laugh.
Substitute health, diet, exercise and moderation for money and you will understand the way I saw the world at age 16. That view of things has always made sense to me and I have never varied from that path. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 11:00:22 AM | Threads like this really only serve one purpose...they let people
strut their stuff.
Who the heck cares who anyone chooses to go out with and why
would anyone worry about someone who wouldn't go out with them
in the first place.
And if people want to think they're better looking then their contemporaries,
who are we to disagree?
If anything, these threads are a process of elimination...and there's nothing
wrong with that.
At least that's my opinion...but then I don't care.
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 6:17:07 PM | (((In response to the OP: why waste time worrying what some shallow superficial little boy thinks or does? Remember this, juveniles come in all ages! If some 50-60 yr. old wants to chase after someone whom he has absolutely nothing in common with, who cares? Anybody with eyes knows why a guy that age wants a 25 yr. old girl...1) it's because he loves spending a lot of money for 3 minutes of pleasure.( In other words... neither one of them knows what they're doing in bed) 2)He likes to "pretend" he's into the same music she likes....3)He loves hanging out with all her" cool" friends. 4)He can learn all about the latest "trends" in order to have more things in common with his grandkids. And 5).. he knows he cannot satisfy a "woman" in any way at all, so why torture his already-battered ego?
Personally I would feel kind of like a "baby-raper" if I were to date someone young enough to be my granddaughter. As far as I'm concerned, these guys are leaving all the "real women" for all of the "real men"!)))
Whoa...... this came from a man's perspective...... I absolutely love the last line...
***These guys are leaving all the "real women" for the "real men"!***
My sentiments exactly.... | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 6:24:31 PM | | For the OP, yes they do exactly that and sometimes huge 25 yr olds after they've specifically said they didn't want a "faaat"one:( But oh, she's young enough for him:( I get hit on by younger guys and I'll go younger but I do prefer someone close to my age. I won't do waaay older. So I'm alone and of the older or younger, I choose younger. It makes no sense why they do what they do. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 6:28:20 PM | Anybody can take a shot right, not just Excellent-guy?
I wouldn't consider marrying a woman half my age, but I would (and have )date one.
Why would they be interested in me? For one thing, I know a lot of stuff of great interest to some of them, Like how to run a business, my encyclopedic knowledge of jazz and classical music, wines, cooking, art, history, culture etc. In short, a whole lotta stuff guys their age haven't had time to learn. Plus I can still do everything those guys their age can and some of it even better. Women from their age group I've dated were definitely NOT looking for a sugar daddy as they all had well paying livings. And when it was time to go to the symphony or some occasion that required dressing elegantly, I knew how to do so and have it look natural and easy. They never had to be concerned about my manners or what would come out of my mouth next in certain company. In the end, they percieved me as a great value in their lives, not a sugar daddy. They all appreciated me as man of quality who new himself and had conquered his demons for the most part and wasn't struggling with life, just living it easily and with style. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 7:02:33 PM | My daughter is 25, and when we are out together and older men (more than 40) comment to her, she is grossed out... she once commented ~ hope dad doesn't do that to young girls when he is out... Her sights are on men her own age who are intelligent, attractive bodies, and interests mirroring her own.
I personally feel there is someone for everyone, and those older men that are pursuing younger women would not be someone I am interested in or would have much in common with. So to me, they are eliminated as potential interests, and just directs me towards the interesting, confident, sexy mature men around my own age. who wouldn't dream of dating a younger woman.
Excellent Guy ~ I agree with your post. I lived in a South American country for 3 years and the young girls (20's) with the 50 + year old men used them to get to the USA. None of them are still with those men... some it was a matter of months before they scattered to greener pasture/s! | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 7:04:02 PM | I remember when I hit 26, I was working at a large corporation in the marketing office of the president as an Administrative Assistant. In all there were 9 managers, and tons of sales persons. All the men were in their 40's and 50's. First day I thought wow a bunch of old guys. Then daily I started to see these very men differently...they were well dressed, well spoken, they had charm, they had character, they actually told me funny jokes!!!!!!! I started comparing them to the men my age...there was no comparison. You are talking men vs boys...they were someone I could look up to and respect. They simply KNEW things and the confidence they had reeked out of every pore of their body.
I have read enough of these bogus threads where some members of the opposite sex thinks putting down the choices of the opposite sex makes them seem better. The fact I dont understand at all...when you say that the younger girls are only with the men for money do you realize you are basically calling all these younger women..whores?????
It isnt that age that is attractive, it is the person!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As to why an older man would find a younger woman interesting...it depends on the woman, but i would say they find they are more fun, energetic, happy...the world hasnt come crushing down around them and they arent trying to do 100 things for 100 different people. They have the time to devote to their man to make him feel special without the pressures of family, employment, or social elements taking away. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/16/2009 7:27:39 PM | ***You are talking men vs boys...they were someone I could look up to and respect. They simply KNEW things and the confidence they had reeked out of every pore of their body.***
I guess I am old fashioned and was left way behind somewhere and I have brought up my daughter with similiar values...
.... the words "I could look up to and respect", that is exactly how I used to see older men when I was young and how my daughter sees them now. UNTIL.... they start making comments or trying to date her (me when I was younger) then the respect for them tends to be diminished and turned into something no longer nice but rather trashy and smutty... We respect our elders as they deserve and earn respect, how can a young person respect older men when they start acting like children.... how can anyone respect them???
Note...my daughter has been in law school for 8 years and I have never once heard her mention an attraction to her professors other than respect and awe at their knowledge... Weird......... I guess........she is going to be as naive as me........ Hope she never has to join a dating sight where younger women are expected to think older men are hot.......... | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/17/2009 4:00:34 AM | I didn't read the whole thread but there is a saying about 'what the market will bear'
If the older men can get the young things--they are going to do so. But in a great many cases, I have seen them marry, have a baby....she wakes up one day, discovering she is married to an old man and has a baby and she wants out. He gets divorced --will be paying child support out of his Social Security and wonders why the gals his age don't chose to date him --probably because they have been down that road--great party or occasion planned, he is to escort her but cancels so he can attend his little one's school play. Granted, he is where he needs to be--I just don't intend to have all my plans cancelled that way. My children are grown and I have no obligations--I want someone else the same way. I will always be there for my children but I don't intend to put my life on hold anymore. I would love to meet a man my age--but for every man my age who writes me--there are five 20 somethings who think I have everything a man could want. The last 5 emails that I had from men my age--they all had children under 12 years of age..............
Like the poster, I am active--dancing, hiking, bicycling--I could stand to lose about 10 pounds and am working on it but I work hard to stay active in order to enjoy my life.
The flip side is women of a certain race wondering why the men of their race date outside of it. The question will always be 'what is wrong with me? Why don't they want to date me/other women like me?'
People like who they like---we just notice it more when it is not us that is chosen. | |
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| Older fit men shunning older fit women and chasing 25 year olds??? What's with that?
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:31:39 AM | Why is it women think an older guy chasing a younger woman is a creepy old pervert, yet an older woman chasing younger guys is a cougar and thats cool?
Age is not really a factor as we get older, but I find 10 years difference one way or another does put you into a different era of life and you may not have a lot to connect on.
And, for the ones that think older men dont know how to please a woman, Ya, right, We have learned many things over the years. Not just a 2 pump chump, grunt and roll over and go to sleep. :) Maybe with our ex's but thats why they are ex's. They put in as little as we did? I dont know, speculation. | |
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