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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 12:24:44 AM | You bring up a good point on under-exposure, and I've seen relatively few Asian men with Caucasian women, almost none with Hispanic women, and I cannot recall seeing an Asian man with any woman with dark brown skin. To propose a possible reason to your position, I'll have to go back to prejudices and preconceived notions, and I'll maintain it's two-fold. There's a common belief I've heard time and time again that Asian men are too career-focused, too stressed because of their need for corporate success, and that carries over to the off-hours in a shortness of temper, etc. What's interesting is that this is what I've heard mostly from white women, and then you can't help but go back to the Americanisms - lazy, fat, uneducated, selfish, etc.
Someone posted previously that she thought Asians tend to age better, i.e. appear younger than their actual years. It's been my personal experience that women do tend to prefer a man who looks a little older than they do.
Certainly men and women look at some traits with differing importance, though it should be quite apparent that Asians are not fugly, certainly not any more or less than any other ethnicity, or we would not be on this thread.
Women, what do you say? Women from every walk of life can be found to desire the same things in a man - it's usually the same thing: funny, smart, successful.... So what's the deal?
Men, what do you say? Think about your friends, colleagues, acquaintances, etc. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 1:00:05 AM | Okay, why I am seeing so many generalizations and stereotypes here? One thing I *don't* want is a man who either is, or looks, older than me...That just really pushes the Ewww! factor button for me....I'm one of the older women who prefers younger men, just works better for me as a first born. And one of the first men I had a crush on was part Japanese-he was just friends with me, he married a petite blonde with a daughter...I like various ethnicities, but they don't seem to be too common where I am-lots of fellow Caucasians, some Hispanics, but a scarcity of Scandinavians, Italians , Polynesians and Asians...Kind of a dating desert.....Maybe they're out there somewhere, but I have not found them yet..Oh well, on to the next excursion,
I guess! | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 12:14:15 PM | homeby10: There is another, perhaps more important question that begs to be answered - Why do Asian women choose to date Caucasian men?
Jordan: It's NOT more important, but because it is the opposite of the initial question...it is a good question to ask.
Although I have posted several messages in reply, another aspect that I may NOT have touched upon earlier is the fact that "Asian groups like the Japanese have a very low opinion of groups that are dark skinned.
Two, many Asian women carry parasols to shield their skin from being tanned by the sun.
Three, in America...since whites dominate the environment socially, economically, and politically, immigrants KNOW that the fastest way to being accepted by **those in power** (whites) is to avoid relationships as well as not to support casues favored by Blacks.
Hence, it comes down to cultural and political forces that coerce immigrants' choices....not biology.
Does this also occur in non-European or white dominated societies?
Well, I know that when one of my uncles served in the army in Vietnam, he dated a Vietnamese woman. Two, another uncle adopted 2 children of Vietnamese and Africa descent.
As we've seen in a number of stories on 60 Minutes, Primetime, and other newsmagazines, children fathered by American soldiers (whether Black or white) are looked down upon in Asian countries.
That stands in direct contradiction of "Asian women preferring Caucasian men."
How could you prefer white men, but look down on the products of white men and Asian women?! But to be fair, that condescension usually occurs in Asian countries, not here in America.
Going back to "who controls the economy," does anyone know "how Asian women act in countries on the continent of Africa, since there are a lot of Asian immigrants living there as well?!
homeby10: Another question is do the women we are speaking of here include only those whose immediate origin include the Asian countries, or is it any woman of Asian descent who happens to come from ANY country, including the USA?
Jordan: Similar to homeby10's question above, I would like to know if there's a difference in preferences held by light- and dark-skinned Asian women, such as the Laotians, Cambodians, etc.?
Do these darker Asian women like their lighter-skinned counterparts still prefer Caucasian men?
Who do the oppressed dark-skinned group in Japan date and marry?
Jordan Mardan | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 1:14:24 PM | Man some of you folks are seious, wow !!----None of that Color or Race matters. People are individuals---not just cookie cutter clones.--Seems you would have figured that out by now. Where have you been for the last 30 Years. "Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly runs plumb to the bone" Look at the person inside the package. That is who you will be with, when the lights go out. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 2:25:46 PM | Not sure if this has been said.
But the japanese lady i dated for over a year recently there was only one reason i dated her...
Because she was a Woman that was attractive to me , nothing more nothing less | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 4:02:06 PM | One question: I have this friend of mine. He's attractive, tall, in good shape, intelligent and educated, mature, good personality, blah blah blah... He also happens to be Asian. And this friend of mine, he's tried to get a date on this site. But it's been completely useless; utterly dismal failure; women seem unable to care less and there's simply no real indication of attraction or interest from anyone.
You're far from alone, and it has nothing to do with your race. There have been innumerable threads started on POF from men - of all races - asking why they can't get the women on this site to pay attention to them. The only difference between the men in question is the reasons they conjure up in their heads as to why that is. (Minority men usually think it's because they're minorities. Non-minority/white men usually think it's because they're not rich and handsome enough.)
FACT: POF is not the place to come if you want a flood of women filling your inbox.
*Awaits for everyone to just gloss over my post, indicating yet again how invisible Asian men are in this society, and also how it's such an uncomfortable, unspoken truth that Asian guys are just plain considered undesirables by everyone, including Asian women.* You asswipes.
Er... in your case, I'd be willing to assume it's your attitude and less-than-flattering photo.
On the other hand...
Which leads me to my final question (for now): Are women just underexposed to Asian faces, either in positive/sexual media depictions or lack of diversity while growing up, and thus aren't socialized to be attracted to them?
I think they are. Earlier in this thread I tried to name, off the top of my head, five well-known Asian-American actors other than Jet Li and Jackie Chan (yes, I know they're not actually Asian-American... it just helps my point). I couldn't do it. Whether it's a mass racial conspiracy or simply a reflection of the lack of Asian actors in the business, I don't know - but it is true.
The feeling I get from the Asian men I see posting here, and could probably extend to the average Asian "man on the street", though, is that they would prefer to be with an Asian woman. It has been my experience, in general actually, that minority men and women prefer their own kind and generally only date white folks if they've been "brainwashed" by our racist and white-centric media (somewhat sarcastic delivery on my part, but it's what people tell me), or we're a "Second choice" when they can't find a "decent" (which is relative) mate from their own pool. Oh yea, and if they're just open-minded people. Crazy, but it happens.
Anyway, due to that "feeling" (which may be a mere stereotype), I would imagine that some white women don't consider Asian men because they assume, rightfully or not, that the Asian men in question don't date white women. It's what I assume occasionally based on how the women I'm observing carry themselves... and in the words of an Indian gal I went out with a few weeks ago...
"We (meaning Indian women) don't actively seek out white guys to date - but if they make it known that they're open to dating us, by virtue of asking us out, we'll go out with them.
are Asians just that plain fugly?
I don't think so, but then again, I'm not a woman. I've known, been family to, and worked with a lot of handsome, quality Asian men who would make a fine partner for anyone - regardless of that anyone's color.
I should also mention in closing that standards of what is attractive definitely vary by culture. When I was married (my wife was from mainland China), my wife and I used to have all sorts of interesting disagreements over media stars (and friends and family) because women that I thought were hot (like Lucy Liu), were "not attractive" by Chinese standards. She once remarked to me that a young friend of her family, who I thought was adorable, had difficulty finding boyfriends because she wasn't attractive. I couldn't, for the life of me, see why. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 4:03:38 PM | Hi Steve and Myrlita,
Thank you for your nice comments. I did not realised that my post was not deleted! I read so many rude comments on here . I was so worried and scared that people might attack me with what I said. I think I used a wrong word here "SLAVE". But before I will explain what I mean I will answer your questions first.
I came from Mindanao, Surigao City. I am sure its worth the wait to see your fiancee in the Philippines. About my divorce , its nearly finish now, just waiting for the last Decree to come out. Thank you for your good wishes for me. I wish you all the best and hope you will have a good time back home  | |
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| More Caucasian Men "Dating" Asian Women? (Olongapo)
Posted: 8/16/2007 4:44:45 PM | ahhh, memories of Olongapo City, the city of prostitution basically there to service the "needs" of sailors and Marines from the US Navy Base at Subic Bay, Phillipines:
http://www.petitiononline.com/olong/petition.html
http://www.greenleft.org.au/1993/111/5627 | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/16/2007 4:47:48 PM | Hi Judy
Thank you for your comments and good wishes for me. I think I used a wrong word in my previous posting. And I would like to explain what I mean. I was not a slave during my marriage. As a filipina you know that it is our nature to look after our husband (wether his a causcasian or other race??) and children of course. I was very happy with my marriage. Not until after I had my son, I wanted to work part time to be able to spend time with my baby. That was when my problem arises, he told me to work full time because I earned more than him, and he will work part time???
And that was what I mean that I felt like a slave! I think I still feel bitter of what happened to my marriage that's all. But this is not the reason why we ended up divorce. That is a different story, I can share it to you if you want but privately ok? Send me a message when you find my username. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/17/2007 5:26:12 AM | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage
Hello Jordan I am new to this forum thingy that is why I tried to delete my first post? Thank you for your response, and all the best. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/17/2007 1:37:34 PM | bornEuropean: I think you and I are on our own in this battle. It cracks me up these Asian women can't even read properly, yet they're on this forum propagating how they're so much better than Caucasian women. One of them took the quote" me love you loooooooong time" as a compliment . That right there proves my point about AF/WM relationships. I believe in every working relationship there must be open communications, and understanding of each other point of view. In my opinion, AF/WM relationship lacks this very foundation to build a solid relationships.*DISCLAIMER* There are exceptions to every rule so please don't bring up a single incident where you knew of a successful AF/WM
relationship.
Judy29: Being clean, not judgemental(as you would put it), polite, loyal, and trust worthy, are not traits associated with Asian women exclusively. There isn't anything magical or special about Asian women, there are only myths and stereotypes.( call me the MYTH BUSTER!!) I am beginning to think you Asian women are racist,*anticipates Asian women accusing me of racism*.
1130clr: Congrats on being 54, and not looking a day over   | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/19/2007 4:46:50 PM | Arieann Wrote:
What ever happened to good manners???
You right, My remark was rude and not in good manners. I am sorry to every one for what I said.
Your apology is accepted.
Steve & Myrlita  | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/19/2007 9:10:01 PM | Partially because you want to and partially because some people find people of other ethnic persuasion to be different enough to make their dating more interesting. Don't worry, they will discover soon enough that ethnic differences don't make that much difference. The opposite sex in one ethnic group can be just as much like the opposite sex in another ethnic group! Next thing you know you are just getting divorced from someone that is of a different ethnic group than you are!! Yippy.....  | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/19/2007 9:15:58 PM | | Because they look more submissive, I do not know if they really are, but they certainly look not so independent, opinionated. I've heard that they are taught in the art to sell themsleves better since they are born. In Asia men are the kings - they get a salary at least twice higher, they take care of their parents, while women should think how to get married successfully, possibly this thinking forms their behavior. Not to mention here about physical compatibility. | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/21/2007 3:20:32 PM | Kapaul!!!
What you saying is an old saying, now a days asian women have proved themselves to be competitive with male when it comes to high paying job. You are saying we are not so intelligent and independent, thats not true either, Most asian women are educated , I know !!! not all only some ok? They work hard to get to the top, striving to be a successful career woman. Anyway I thought I'd say something about this issue. We are not submissive nor stereotype women, we are like some caucasian women who are normal but different in culture, and if those caucasian men prefers our culture, we didnt ask for it. Love conquers all regardless of ethnicity. So!!! let stop attacking each other, caucasian men please dont downgrades caucasian women , because the more you do the more caucasian women attacks Asian women , downgrading and even attack the human body part which is sickening.  | |
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| Why Do I See More Caucasian Men Dating Asian Women?
Posted: 8/21/2007 8:51:02 PM | Hi Lucilu,
Right on target as usual. As I said before, Age and race DO NOT MATTER! The man and woman either love each other or they don't. Simple as that. I remind you all that I didn't set out to fall in love with an asian (Filipina), but it happened to me and neither her nor I saw it coming. It just hit us both at the same time like a ton of bricks. You never know when love will find you until it knocks on your door. I leave for Bacolod in 20 1/2 days. All is set to go, no turning back now. I'm not looking forward to a 23 hour plane ride but the beautiful soul on the other side waiting for me makes it all worth it.
God Bless,
Steve & Myrlita | |
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