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 killene

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 6/13/2009 10:51:28 AM
This is my final take on the matter....
It was a very degrading comment to make about anyone...male or female...adult or child....
It was even more degrading since it was a underage child.....

It became even more degrading when Letterman tried to excuse his actions due to a mistake in which daughter he thought it was.(Age did not make it any better).

No matter who the comment had been directed to age, gender or otherwise...Whether the person was 1 to 99 in age, male or female, it was a VERY degrading comment....

For anyone to say that it was an ok comment on national TV dependant upon the age or whom it was, is actually putting themselves down.
 Miss W

Joined: 12/4/2006
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Posted: 6/13/2009 11:19:30 AM

omg! if we took EVERY ignorant, thoughtless or careless person who made an ill-advised and stupid remark off t.v. ... there wouldn't be a whole lot left to watch ...

This is true. Grab the remote and change the channel. I'm not a fan of Palin, but I believe that children should be off limits.
 fzrhusker

Joined: 10/8/2005
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Posted: 6/13/2009 11:27:41 AM
Here is the 2nd half of the question: Why are not all the women's groups and Gloria Steinem not getting upset about ALL of this. Oh that's right they will only defend their liberal friends.
So I will add my own Letterman
Hillary Clinton couldn't get hired as a "slutty flight attendant, she is a horse face @ss and Chelsy is a slut"

David Letterman used Sarah Palin's recent trip to New York as inspiration for a top ten list in which he described her look as "slutty flight attendant." Fans of the governor are up in arms -- and Governor Palin herself responded to the joke by calling it "pretty pathetic."

The second "highlight" of Palin's visit according to Letterman: "Bought makeup at Bloomingdale's to update her "slutty flight attendant look."
 killene

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 6/13/2009 11:37:13 AM

Here is the 2nd half of the question: Why are not all the women's groups and Gloria Steinem not getting upset about ALL of this. Oh that's right they will only defend their liberal friends.

There are a couple of groups that currently have writing campaigns going on to CBS and the sponsors of the show.
 2hi-iq-4u

Joined: 5/29/2009
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Posted: 6/13/2009 11:39:40 AM
Maybe he can be on the same top ten list as Dan Rather?

The "Top Ten" people that "See B/S" fired for indiscretionary work.
 DaveB951

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2009 12:51:54 PM
All Lettermen had to do was own up to making a mistake and using the 14 year old. Thats all he had to do. A simple and meaningful apology.

Not to mention his joke was in truly bad taste but I would have much more respect for the guy if he just had the balls to own up. He did not and that half ass attempt at an apology was just that........... half ass .............and showed he truly did not mean it.

And to the poster who thinks it is a joke for Palin`s 18 year old who had a baby to be pushing for abstinence.... why is that such a joke ? Have you never heard of former drug addicts, alcoholics, gang bangers, criminals etc. etc. trying to help and support others so they too do not fall and become a victim of their own misguided and ill conceived choices ? Get a clue....

Peace
 DaveB951

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 6/13/2009 1:01:34 PM
I don't know. Rush is hard to beat when it comes to durogatory bombast. Then there's Hannity, Savage, and how many others?

Ace... please point out to all of us any negative and demeaning comments the people you mentioned made against the (CHILDREN) of any past, former or current politician....

Oh..... and you forgot to mention Oberman..........

Peace
 85032Luck

Joined: 3/16/2006
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Posted: 6/13/2009 1:49:02 PM
The Simpsons is syndicated at the same time as Dave Letterman shows.

-sorry Dave,
Homer is just soooo much more entertaining and funny than you.

 cncgandolf

Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 6/13/2009 1:53:23 PM
"Were Letterman's sexual oriented jokes that he made about Sarah Palin's 14 year old daughter beyond your tolerance? "

They were not about her 14 year old but about her 18 year old. They were still both in bad taste and not even funny. They fell flat at the time they were done.

"Was his "sort of apology" as it's been termed in the media correct for the circumstances? "

To clarify he meant the 18 yr old might have been appropriate. There is no way to apologize effectively for a bad and tasteless and not even funny 'joke.'

"Should Sarah turn down the invitation to be on Dave's show? "

Not at this time on this basis. But he owes her a good interview in the future when it suits her political agenda.

"If you were in Sarah's shoes, would you have called him out on this as she did? "

No. Once again she comes out the worse for the interchange except amongst the most hearty and vigilant Palin supporters. You need to learn to pick your battles to play at the level of politics involved.

"What next needs to happen with this? "

It should be allowed to 'die' for the lame, tasteless, bad joke it was and still is. Beating a dead horse accomplishes nothing.
 matchlight

Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 6/13/2009 3:51:53 PM
I don't recall Sean Hannity personally insulting anyone. Some political ideas deserve to be criticized, and when politicians make false statements someone should call them on it. From what I've seen, that's all he's doing. Same with Mark Levin, who was a prosecutor in the Reagan administration. I have yet to hear him argue anything that's not accurate.

I'm sure Mr. Letterman, like the other millions of self-styled cosmopolitans here who like to sneer at their own country, doesn't much like Gov. Palin--or any American who defends it. Ain't that just too d----d bad.
 AceOfSpace

Joined: 5/28/2007
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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:56:42 PM
Maybe Rush & Savage have given them all a bad name. When I hear them, unless I'm in the mood to see what I'm up against yet again, I generally tune out. So I'll stand corrected on Hannity for now. That still leaves the rest of them, who are as insulting and derisive as can be.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
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Posted: 6/14/2009 12:05:30 PM
Palin is a Palin ass she got what she had comming to her now shes screaming bloody murder taking things out of context and trying to make Letterman look like shit..The reason shes mad is she did not get the upper comment on Dave like all that made up crap that flew out of her motor mouth during the last erection..If you don't want people to judge you or your family don't parade them in front of us..Keep them in the closet where they belong...
 Barbe1963

Joined: 9/30/2007
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Posted: 6/14/2009 12:18:25 PM
^^^hmm...interesting......
So let me get this straight.....Palin came to New York, took her young daughter to a Yankees game just to make Letterman look like shit.....because she KNEW he wouldn't be able to resist telling inappropriate jokes about a child.
Yes! That's it!


<div class='quote'>Maybe Rush & Savage have given them all a bad name. When I hear them, unless I'm in the mood to see what I'm up against yet again, I generally tune out. So I'll stand corrected on Hannity for now. That still leaves the rest of them, who are as insulting and derisive as can be.

Ace...you are better than this. This thread is about the appropriateness of Letterman's comments, why is it you feel that at every juncture, you must defend your liberal brethen when...really is this an issue you would want to defend them about? Making sexual references about young girls? Really? You want to go there?
 DaveB951

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 6/14/2009 2:32:21 PM

trying to make Letterman look like shit

But of course it is Sarahs fault. Needless to say....Letterman does a find job of looking like shit on his own.

But what can one expect from a Jerry Garcia wannabe who is so politically biased they cannot even make an intelligent response even when their side has obviously made an inappropriate sexual innuendo about a 14 year old girl.

God forbid Hannity or Rush made a similiar remark about one of Obama`s children. It would be a different story then huh !
 JackDiamond312

Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 6/14/2009 3:42:46 PM
Can people not get outside of their political bias and think straight? It's like fans at a basketball game yelling at the officials. People think that their team never fouls, and the other opposing team always foul. Just like politics, I think if people fight issues straight down party lines, wether they are right or not, that they are so bias that there opinions don't mean a thing. And I'm not lumping all liberals, or all conservatives into a box. There is nothing wrong with having your views and disagreeing, but it seems a$$anine to always think your side is right, all the time... and the other side is always wrong.

Rush, Hannity... Fox in general... talks a more conservative voice, while MSNBC, the Huffington Post ... New York Times... and many others like Olbermann speak out of a more Liberal voice.

Conservatives are not going to except a lot of what comes out of someone's voice like Olbermann, just like Liberals will disagree with Rush.

This doesn't mean they are vile and creeps... You just disagree with them.

Letterman, misspoke, his jokes were wrong and he should admit it... and so should all you liberals, It doesn't matter if you don't like Republicans or Conservatives... He attacked young girls, inappropriately... It was wrong, and no way can you put a spin on it that Sarah deserved it.... Sarah Palin didn't do anything to be treated poorly like this, and especially, her little girls didn't... It is only a hack job by a very liberal comedian who likes to voice his political bent in a way of tearing those down who have the opposite political view he has.

And just because your a liberal and disagree with Sara Palin is fine... But I can't see what it is she ever did to be hated so much. I mean, I'm a moderate conservative... I disagree with the basic Liberal philosophy... but I don't hate Obama, or Hillary... not even Pelosi... Just strongly disagree... Why the hate?

Does Rush say things that would upset liberals... of course, his voice is against them... but he isn't being inappropriate... if he does, he's wrong as well.

Does Olbermann say stupid stuff all the time about conservatives... of course he does... A lot of crap... but he doesn't say things that are inappropriate.. just stuff that conservatives disagree with.

A few of you need to stop being so closed minded... that you can't see the difference. I will say most people here can see the difference. And have made good comments.
 DaveB951

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 6/14/2009 4:07:08 PM

not even Pelosi...

You are a better man then me Jack........... Hate is a strong word but I make an exception for her. I hate her.... I really effing hate her !!!

There..... I said it

and ya know.... it actually felt good
 Byrd

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Posted: 6/14/2009 4:12:29 PM
NO Way...Palin planned this out all the way..Everyone knows unless they are stupid that Letterman has this thing with getting the upper hand with his scarism..HE WAS SET UP! Republicans are famous for setting people up but too wussy to stand up..They have to blame all their shit on other people..."But what can you expect from a Jerry Garcia, wannabe.." No..No, I could never be the great Jerry Garcia nor would I ever act as if I just look alittle like him and I feel honored I do...God Forbid I could look like Rush, as if someone shoved a hose up my azz and filled me full of hot air, ha,ha,ha..There are no mistakes in politics..I'm sorry some of you feel it neccessary to attack me for my opinion but then again your republicans just like Palin in the azz, and I'm not verbally attacking a child..I am defending Letterman because in my opinion he was set up..Cheers! to all and to all a good night.. Smile Nancy Pelosi Loves You..
 killene

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Posted: 6/14/2009 4:39:19 PM
Anyone that supports Letterman for what he said do or could not care about people in general.
The comment that Letterman made SHOULD NOT have been made about any human being. It was NOT t a fitting comment for anyone iregardless of their gender, age. and/or political status.
Overall I am really proud of the people that have posted on this thread. However I feet that there are a few that seem to have let their common sense go out the window. There are some who havent stopped to think how they would feel if that comment had been made about one of their family members, close friends or heaven forbid any of children of the president.
If the comment is not one you could condone being made about someone else, especially someone your personally care about, then it should not have been made at all. It especially should not have been made on a national television show.
It would sure be nice if we all started treating each other with some kindness.
 Byrd

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Posted: 6/14/2009 5:00:28 PM
It sure would be nice to be able to have an opinion without being attacked by control freaks..But that's not the republican way attack, blacklist, gang up on whatever.
 matchlight

Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:34:29 PM
But that's not the republican way attack, blacklist, gang up on whatever.


Thank heaven it's not the Democrat way! No, not those noble souls--not Dodd; Murtha; Reid; Pelosi; Ted Kennedy; Leahy; Hilary Clinton; Feinstein; Biden; Frank; and not the most hallowed of them all--Obama--that Pantheon of great statesmen, always ready to put their county first; who could ever doubt that they represent the very best in the traditions of America?

Talk of Lincoln and Washington and Roosevelt all you like, they cannot compare. Such is the sterling character of these present-day heroes, so heartfelt is their patriotism--all of them--so far above any question is their absolute integrity, so sure is their guidance, that it is a glorious thing to know our country rests safe in their hands; that without fail, they keep watch on the ramparts for us, always with only this single thought: To defend all things good, and virtuous!
 killene

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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:31:09 PM
Hey both political parties have people with big mouths......Some of them shoot them off a bit too often with nothing to say and some have a lot to say when shooting off their mouths......And some of them do both....
But the ones that have the decency to know when to shut up and make a heart felt apology are the ones I respect regardless of their political views/party.

When I heard that Letterman had apologized I thought ---- Go Letterman.
When I heard Letterman's apology I thought ---- Boy the BS just got deeper....
 JackDiamond312

Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:59:32 PM
Byrd, your not being attacked, you are giving your opinion, no problem... But you don't back up your opinion! In nothing I have read or have seen anywhere, shows that Sarah Palin made Letterman attack her with those stupid jokes. Lets for the sake of it say that he didn't involve her under age daughter and it was simply an attack on Sarah... It wouldn't be a problem, just another attack on Sarah from the left. But even that, I can't see your logic that she provoked it. Why? because she visited New York? She was there on walk to raise money for children with disabilities. What? because Letterman lives in New York, Sarah was there to egg him on? Yep, those nasty republicans.... They sure know how to hurt someone.

Actually Byrd, no one cares that you are a liberal, and what your views are, we are all welcomed to our opinion. But this isn't about you. This is about someone who knows he has a voice, and tried using it to put down someone he doesn't like, and stepped over the line, plain and simple. If your view is that a person has the right to say provocative things about someone's child on the national stage without consequences... well, most people don't believe that to be true.

We all have a right to say what we want, but we all have the problem of facing the music if we sing out of tune. David Letterman just happens to have croaked out a big one.
 fzrhusker

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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:01:07 PM
Byrd I gotta know the details of how Letterman was set up? You have to explain this one, oh wait the right wing conspiracy now has control over his mouth. Holy crap you can come up with something better than this.
 DaveB951

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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:21:38 PM
as if someone shoved a hose up my azz and filled me full of hot air

You took the words right outa my mouth

 Byrd

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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:42:11 PM
I said it was my opinion..I don't feel as if I have to explain anything if I did ya all would just mentally masterbate the shit out of it anyway..I think maybe from past actions on Palins part I don't believe her..And I'm not totally liberal either I believe in the death penality, and peoples right to bear arms, or arm bears..What gets me about some of you fellas is your mad about this but not Bushes invasion of Iraq where both Iraq women and children were blown into little pieces..I'm sure a few of them were probably raped too..Again just my opinion don't have a cow.
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