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 2hi-iq-4u

Joined: 5/29/2009
Msg: 51
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Posted: 6/14/2009 10:10:17 PM
What gets me about some of you fellas is your mad about this but not Bushes invasion of Iraq where both Iraq women and children were blown into little pieces..


That is a factual representation of what happens in wars. Another factual respresentation is the continuous spread of propaganda to appeal to your emotions and disregard the actual causes of the conflict. I doubt that this thread is the one where the iraq war is even remotely related to the topic. Neither is the subject related to the tunnels under falluja, nor the large amount of phophorus that was found near them, nor is the subject related to the production of VX gas precursors such as phophorus.

I am just mad about the propaganda that people on "See B/S" like Letterman and Rather would spew. It has nothing to do with the death of women and babies.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
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Posted: 6/14/2009 10:46:57 PM
Obamas daugthers have nothing to do with this topic either but people keep bringing them up as if they are white trash...I haven't heard anything about Obamas daugthers, Clintons daugther, or Jimmy Carters daugther being involved in this topic but people keep bringing all of them up...I know that Iraq women and children have nothing to do with this thread I was setting an example, but that just went over your inflated ego's..Well good luck with that..
 2hi-iq-4u

Joined: 5/29/2009
Msg: 53
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Posted: 6/14/2009 10:51:47 PM
Obamas daugthers have nothing to do with this topic .


You are half right. They are simply young girls, and no one is making derogatory comments about them because of their parent's political affiliations. "WE" (with our egos)are so sorry that you are so blinded by your liberal agenda that you cannot see the forest from the tree.

A few questions you might wish to answer:

If the comment would have been about the 18 year old, or even a 25 year old young lady, was it actually much less offensive? Are you a misogynist? Is Letterman? Is politics about the person running for office, or their children? Are the children of politicians "fair game?" Why is Jenna Bushes tongue sticking out "Headline News?"
 JackDiamond312

Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 6/14/2009 10:54:20 PM

Obamas daugthers have nothing to do with this topic either but people keep bringing them up as if they are white trash


Some of us have used this as an example that mirrors the comments Letterman has said about Palin's daughter. when someone mentioned that the right is doing the same thing. It would be the same thing if someone who was in the lime light attacked Obama's daughters. No one is calling anyone white trash... and no one was disrespecting the daughters of the President.

But your statement makes me believe that you are calling Palin's girls white trash in the comparison.... I apologies if I am mistaken.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
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Posted: 6/14/2009 11:12:09 PM
No not her daugthers but I have probably referred to Gov. Palin as "White Trash" not her daugthers I would not do that either kids are off limits....That's "The forest through the trees.." I still think Gov. Palin somehow tricked Letterman into screwing up..I am not a Letterman fan..I think she got him, before he got her. And as far as rapists go I don't like rapists, pimps, child molesters, or others that hurt children if it seems like I do..I don't, I have hurt those people before. Anyway I too am sorry I get passionate and don't mean to offend, goodnight.
 killene

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 6/14/2009 11:13:06 PM
What was said in regards to Obama's daughters was that this comment would and should not have been made about anyone's daughters including the President's daughters.
Some did say that there would have been even bigger repercussions if Letterman had said a similar joke or the same joke about Obama's daughters.
Believe it or not I would have been just as angry if the joke had been about any child, or adult for that matter. ...
The subject matter of the joke is not something most people or I feel is a joking matter. Using an underagae child as the point of the joke just made it very much more offensive.
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
Msg: 57
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Posted: 6/14/2009 11:18:35 PM
i'm a hard core obama woman and i can't stand palin, but i think his joking was in poor taste, and often is. leave the kids of all parties alone. as said above, he too had a child out of wedlock. shall we all joke about his child? why doesn't he joke about his child while he's at it? leave all the kids alone-- i don't care if he meant the 18 year old versus the 14 year old and i believe he knew dam-n well which kid he was making fun of . that being said, i agree with very little that palin says and her wildlife attacks and merciless aerial shooting policies and practices disgusts me. let's focus on her and if you are a republican, attack the democratic "adults" and their "policies". start with a level playing field.
 indianbob

Joined: 12/19/2005
Msg: 58
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Posted: 6/15/2009 5:46:52 AM
Why hasn't anyone stuck up for A-Rod? The poor guy must be mortified being called out like that.










Settle down, I'm just sayin.

Later,
Bob
 2hi-iq-4u

Joined: 5/29/2009
Msg: 59
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Posted: 6/15/2009 10:23:16 AM
A-Rod? Isn't he on the cover of the Enquirer every other week? I think he can handle the pressure.
 cncgandolf

Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2009 12:20:20 PM
"Palin planned this out all the way..Everyone knows unless they are stupid that Letterman has this thing with getting the upper hand with his scarism..HE WAS SET UP!"

You have got to be kidding! I can't stand Palin but I do happen to think that she gets to go to a sports event in NY without it being considered a set up just to go. Sheeeeeesh. This is what give conspiracy theories a bad name when they do make sense.
 Molly Maude

Joined: 9/11/2008
Msg: 61
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Posted: 6/15/2009 12:23:31 PM
"Why hasn't anyone stuck up for A-Rod? The poor guy must be mortified being called out like that!" Indian Bob

... ... ...

FINALLY ... a Voice of Reason!

why, indeed, hasn't someone seen the other side of this mess?!

he, he, he ... too funny ...
 cncgandolf

Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2009 12:35:08 PM
""Why hasn't anyone stuck up for A-Rod?"

Cause A-Rod is a pro who is used to being in the public eye and a target of the media and he didn't make a stink about it. He isn't a young woman or young girl being protected by motherly instincts.
 o4

Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 63
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:47:57 PM
Just getting back. This discussion has been a bit more robust than what I had expected. It's neat also to see most favoring decency to political orientations!
 Mxchic

Joined: 8/27/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:55:40 PM

If you get an email titled "nude photos of Nancy Pelosi," don't open it. It
could contain nude photos of Nancy Pelosi.




I don't watch Letterman, however I think his joke was not in good taste regardless of how old Palin's daughter is. Simply another reason why I will continue not to watch him. Besides, I get much more useful information from Hannity, Beck, Savage, Coulter, etc. So I will continue to take advantage of them being on the tv or radio.

I think a kernal of truth here is that if you don't like what someone on tv or radio (or any other medium) has to say, you can TUNE OUT and find something more to your taste without insisting that the "offensive voice" be quieted thus preserving the freedom of speech guaranteed each American citizen! How can any American support such tripe as the so-called fairness doctrine? What could be more fair than my power to change the channel and boycott advertisers?
 KarmicGrace

Joined: 8/15/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2009 2:16:56 PM
I can't stand Letterman or Palin, so what either one says doesn't matter to me.
 DaveB951

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2009 4:44:27 PM
mad about this but not Bushes invasion of Iraq where both Iraq women and children were blown into little pieces

Ya see........this is where you cannot see through your own political bias. You bring up extremes that have occurred during a state of war in a debate over off colored comments made against someone`s 14 year old daughter.

Clearly your thought process it tit for tat yet you use extremes in a desperate attempt to somehow justify your thinking and posts while ignoring your own irrational rationalizations.

With all due respect........ You are not man enough nor do you possess sufficient independent thinking to put your own political bias aside for one minute to stand up and say the obvious.

This is a dead on example and precisely why liberals get a bad rap.......cuz of people just like you.

Peace
 fzrhusker

Joined: 10/8/2005
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Posted: 6/15/2009 5:24:04 PM
Thread Hijack
I believe this may help to explain that when a liberal is ask to defend his position(which they usually don't have the spine to do, I'll stay on the fence and see which way the wind blows) they back up, give vague non answers and then as a last resort attempt to insult you.

Example from earlier post:
I said it was my opinion..I don't feel as if I have to explain anything if I did ya all would just mentally masterbate the shit out of it anyway..

BYU Study: Conservatives Are More Likely Than Liberals To Read Opposing View Points
date syndicated: Jun 8 2009 9:48PM

People with stronger party affiliation, conservative political views, and greater interest in politics proved more likely to click on articles with opposing views, according to the Ohio State study.

“It appears that people with these characteristics are more confident in their views and so they’re more inclined to at least take a quick look at the counterarguments,” Knobloch-Westerwick noted. ...

The Brigham Young University survey found that journalists also tended to read liberal blogs - perhaps a reflection of journalists’ political beliefs, although even conservatives said liberal blogs were often better-written, Davis pointed out.

Among the political blog readers, a similar trend emerged in which “liberals read almost exclusively liberal blogs, but conservatives tend to read both,” Davis said.

Davis offered another possible explanation for this trend among blog readers. Conservative views dominate talk radio, and so conservatives may feel more satisfied by that outlet and are willing to check out opposing views on blogs.

I think that last point probably hits closest to the mark as to why this is happening. I don’t think the domination of talk radio by conservative-leaning hosts is why so many conservatives in general are comfortable with reading liberal view points. I think the domination of pretty much all other media by the liberal view point is why so many conservatives read it. Conservatives, frankly, don’t have much of a choice. If they pick up a newspaper or turn on their television, they’re statically one heck of a lot more likely to be hit in the face by a liberal view point.

But that status quo is probably helped by the fact that people on the right, generally, tend to think things as opposed to people on the left who tend to feel things. Neither side of the political spectrum has a monopoly on rational thinking, but generally speaking it seems to me (though I’m no unbiased observer) that conservatives tend to be more like analytical adults and liberals tend to be like emotional little children. Most conservatives simply want to be free to go their own way in the world. Most liberals are constantly obsessed about who is making more money than them. Or who might be getting a better job. Or who is going to pay for their health care.

The differences in philosophies between the right and the left plays a role as well.
 matchlight

Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 6/15/2009 5:32:11 PM

How can any American support such tripe as the so-called fairness doctrine?


Come on! That First Amendment stuff is overrated, and if we get a new right-on Latina woman on the Court, I guarantee you we'll cut it down to size. She doesn't empathize with the Rushes and Hannitys of your far right world. They've been mouthing off for too long about how great Shrub and all his suck up America-loving followers are. They have no right to dominate the public conversation--now it's time for the voices of change to be heard. There's a new sheriff in town.
 califboomergirl

Joined: 11/22/2006
Msg: 69
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Posted: 6/15/2009 5:44:38 PM

Come on! That First Amendment stuff is overrated

Match, you were being sarcastic, I hope......
 fzrhusker

Joined: 10/8/2005
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Posted: 6/15/2009 5:51:16 PM
Matchlight, you got me
 Barbe1963

Joined: 9/30/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:31:15 PM
Well apparently Dave finally got the message that his remarks were inappropriate and decided it was finally time to apologize.

http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSTRE55F0E320090616
 killene

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 6/15/2009 9:06:24 PM
Took Letterman long enough...But I will give him credit for the apology....

Just for everyones information I understand from some sources that there were MANY MANY Thousands of letter campaigns to not only CBS but to the sponsors of Lettermans show...
 o4

Joined: 4/7/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2009 9:42:58 PM
Just looked up a link to read about it myself:

http://tv.yahoo.com/the-late-show-with-david-letterman/show/31647/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090615:1006900__ER:1

The funniest thing about this? The article is sponsored with an ad by "The Tonight Show" with Connan O'Brien.
 Byrd

Joined: 7/19/2004
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Posted: 6/15/2009 9:47:21 PM
BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH..I stopped writing in this thread long ago while you all are still ****ing and moaning..Peace
 ZenBeth

Joined: 2/23/2009
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Posted: 6/15/2009 10:17:57 PM
Rape or sexual assault jokes are bad. Period!!! Don't care who the woman is, what country they are from, economic level etc. Its wrong. Period!! And men and women who make millions of dollars as entertainers should know better!

~Beth~
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