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Posted: 7/1/2009 8:20:23 PM | | ok there are certain types of people I would not date it may be race, height .. whatever. Know what I do (nothing).. I write nothing.. I use the delete button and move on if i'm not interested regardless of what the reason is..I don't see what's so complicated | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/1/2009 9:09:56 PM | SagMan4u (The double standard occurs because WOMEN can do whatever they want, when they want, how they want. And you as a man are EXPECTED to take it.)
Maybe in your world which sounds like a very sad hatefull world to me.....Not fair to assume all woman, maybe some and only if the man is a pansy which makes it the mans fault for putting up with is! And, there are some men like that too.
(One of the MAJOR reasons the world is falling apart. Men have been neutered by women. Now women can do or say whatever they like....and most men sit there with their thumbs up their ass and take it. Not me.)
Spew...has nothing to do with the world falling apart...spewing crap again....and I am glad you don't stand for that behavior problem...however it comes along with some... both men and women.
(If you say the same exact words in a profile as any women might, you as a man will be "labeled" some horrible title. Mostly because we have become a society of people who can't handle the truth. So they label men like you. It's not fair, but you can thank a woman because of it. )
Spew...ignorant people both men and women label people.
(That is the reason for the double standard. It's a women's world....for all the wrong reasons)
Spew...you are labeling women, what does that make you? Your world is harsh on women so why are you on here looking for one...once again run away fast ladies this man sounds like a woman hater. | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/1/2009 10:30:10 PM | It is racism when defined by Merriam Websters dictionary....a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. Says nothing about romantic attraction preferences.
Some interesting facts I read when looking up the deffinition of racism:
The concept that discrimination can be based on "race" presupposes the existence of "race" itself. However, the US Government's Human Genome Project has announced that the most complete mapping of human DNA to date indicates that there is no distinct genetic basis to racial types. Based on that evidence, "racial characteristics" logically cannot exist either.
Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion -- racists have lower IQs than non-racists. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale, the average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945). The reasons this is true are not entirely clear so, does racism attract the unintelligent or do the unintelligent default into racist mentalities?
I would change that part of your profile even if you are not racist it makes you look unintellegent!
Sexism is defined as: Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender. | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/2/2009 6:43:18 AM | Dont worry I copped it when I put on my profile that I prefer to date inside my own race. I was the racist person ever!!!
Double standards. Just tell people to FK off. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:52:50 AM |
Dont worry I copped it when I put on my profile that I prefer to date inside my own race. I was the racist person ever!!!
Double standards. Just tell people to FK off.
And what "race",exactly,would that be genius?
Unless you are also a geneticist (and your inability to spell makes that a likely "No") then you are unable to determine the DNA composition of anybody's ancestry from just appearance.
Negritos (the tribal people's of Asia and Oceana) APPEAR to be "Black" but are actually of Asian descent.
Are they now "Black" because they "look" "Black" to you?
I submit that when you put a "racial" classification on who you date, then you are making a racist decision.
Also an uninformed one, as it's unlikely that you know enough about another person's ancestry to make an informed decision.
Even racists don't like to be called racist anymore because they know it's something that they should be ashamed of being. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:55:54 AM | I only date white australians. Thank the lord I only do.
Unless you are also a geneticist (and your inability to spell makes that a likely "No")
I didn't spell anything wrong so stop attacking me for no reason.
I repeat, thank the lord I don't date your type. That would be an imbred monkey | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:11:46 AM | ^^^^^
I believe the off topic and frankly stupid nature of your posting fails on its own.
I also believe that nature preserve backwater that you call a country ended its "White Australia" policy as it made its "White" inhabitants look as if they were inbred.
But...back to the subject at hand: OP..if you don't care to date Asian women (which looking at your pic, shouldn't be a problem) then don't date them. But don't tell everybody about that fact and then expect NOT to be called a racist for it. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 7:21:43 AM | I personally do not take this as racism. It is your preference who you are attracted to or not. However, maybe having it on blk/white may hit a nerve with Asian women.
I have my preferences as well in some ethnic groups, but I will not put it on my profile. I will just weed those out and respond accordingly. That would be my suggestion for you as well. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 8:24:33 AM | Yes, challenges to "white" prerogatives/privilege are often considered "reverse racism". Such considerations are not facts. They are subjective, sometimes unconscious, responses to a frustrated sense of entitlement.
The more accurate term for what you describe, SagMan4u, is "averse racism" -- i.e. a refusal to accommodate "white" prerogatives/privilege/entitlement. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 8:45:24 AM | Brave post OP! It deserves a brave answer!
I'm attracted to caucasian men!!!!!
Part of my physical criteria MO is nice eyes, nice teeth and really fare skin.
I was born on the North East Coast of Scotland and am very very fair skinned and was the pure real blonde. So in my personal attraction factor built in to the scheme of things is the extraordinary fact I will have 50 different men in a room and the ones with fair skin will catch my attention first.
I'm not saying I don't find the other men attractive, intelligent interesting and wonderful men.
I'm just saying I will place the first part of the evening on meeting the fair skinned ones first!
Whether they meet the other criteria I have in personality, intelligence or body build is another story.
So does this make me a racist? No, I have a natural built in mate chooser in my head for men that have fair skin like myself. Its built in. I can't change that. I think it must have something to do with the biological evolution of choosing a mate. I don't know. | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/2/2009 9:25:31 AM | SagMan4U
Sexism is defined as: Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
Perhaps it is the kind of women you attract that is the problem and not you? I'm not saying you need to change yourself or your standards. Perhaps you need to take a look at other types of women? What this means as far as the letdowns you've had in your dating experience...that they were not the right one for you and the right one is still out there. Bitterness is a nasty diease and puts forth road blocks for happyness.
It is not the truth I am afraid of it's the bitterness and sexism that give the good women obsicles when dating. I have met someone that was a perfect fit for me but he also is gone from this world. I have faith that there are still good men out there, one menat for me and I certainly wouldn't "make other men pay" for other mens mistakes and failures made towards me.
{And if you think for a moment that your gender isn't at the very least attempted(if not succeeded) in changing the rules of dating, changing the dynamics of a relationship, changed gender roles, then YOU are living either in a cave or your lying to yourself.}
Explain this cause I don't understand.
{ But, we don't discard our woman like a piece of trash, like so many of you women do to us. That's not spewing.......that's the TRUTH. And obviously, you can't handle the truth.}
Really...because every women I've ever met including myself has had this experience. It isn't a good feeling but we overcome it. It turns out to be a possitive thing because at least we know we aren't with the wrong men for us and waste valuable time. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 12:41:45 PM |
I repeat, thank the lord I don't date your type. That would be an imbred monkey
...I had to read that 4 or 5 times to make sure I actually was not mistaken.
LOL....and (some) people like to pretend racism doesn't still exist.... | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/2/2009 12:57:15 PM | | I'm really amazed at how many people actually said that they thought this was racist. If he wrote on his profile that he wasn't attracted to guys, would that make him sexist? I mean come on, really people? Not being attracted to Asians is not racist in any way, shape, or form. We all have our personal preferences. You can eliminate anyone you want from your dating pool for any reason. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 1:19:24 PM | ^^^^
Sorry dude... I thought you WERE gay.
You certainly seem gay to me....
Hmm... | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 2:16:55 PM |
I think somewhere in the bible its says something to the effect that "the meek will inherit the earth". I think "they" have already started.
And whoever wrote this in the 'Bible' was most likely gay himself.  | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 3:35:41 PM |
I didn't spell anything wrong so stop attacking me for no reason.
I repeat, thank the lord I don't date your type. That would be an imbred monkey
Aside from the fact that this posting set off my irony meter for the proclamation that there are no spelling errors in a posting that actually contains spelling errors (there ain't no such word as "imbred")...........this is the rudest thing I've ever seen on PoF.
Girl, you are the one dragging your knuckles on the ground. | |
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| Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/2/2009 3:42:23 PM |
No sense of entitlement from me. The point I was trying to describe was just because YOU ARE a WOMEN or MINORITY does not mean that my rights/prerogatives/priveledges should suffer or be minimized....and as a white male over 50 years of age they must certainly have.
I guess we disagree.... As a "white" woman with certain privileges, some of which are unearned and a feature of my "white" and middle class birthright in a racist and classist society, I do NOT feel that I "suffer" or am "minimized" when my "rights/prerogatives/privileges" are sometimes subordinated to those who's birthright has not so privileged them.
Then again, I am not a proponent of "color blindness", either. It's just another way of not seeing what needs to be seen.
As far as your words "averse racism" I don't total agree. Averse is "having an active feeling of repugnance or distaste". Repugnance is having a strong dislike. Yes, I do not like "racism", however, my point was to say that I'm tired of the racism geared towards whites and men(reverse discrimination) when in fact I should have said "adverse racism". With the word adverse meaning "causing harm" or "harmful".
AVERSE - Having a feeling of opposition, distaste, or aversion; strongly disinclined.
ADVERSE - Acting or serving to oppose; antagonistic: adverse criticism. Contrary to one's interests or welfare; harmful or unfavorable
The definition of aversive racism I embraced can be found here:
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/racism10.htm
Had I lived with overt and/or covert racism all my life, I doubt I would be overly concerned with having "adverse" feelings towards people who, knowingly or not - intentionally or not, have unearned privilege that I do not enjoy, or which they don't recognize or acknowledge. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:01:26 PM | | Hey, you can’t help who you like; never ever worry about what someone else thinks of you. It’s what makes us individual. And if they don’t like it then give them a lesson in sign language ha ha. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:05:59 PM |
I guess we disagree.... As a "white" woman with certain privileges, some of which are unearned and a feature of my "white" and middle class birthright in a racist and classist society, I do NOT feel that I "suffer" or am "minimized" when my "rights/prerogatives/privileges" are sometimes subordinated to those who's birthright has not so privileged them.
Then again, I am not a proponent of "color blindness", either. It's just another way of not seeing what needs to be seen.
AVERSE - Having a feeling of opposition, distaste, or aversion; strongly disinclined.
ADVERSE - Acting or serving to oppose; antagonistic: adverse criticism. Contrary to one's interests or welfare; harmful or unfavorable
The definition of aversive racism I embraced can be found here:
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/racism10.htm
Had I lived with overt and/or covert racism all my life, I doubt I would be overly concerned with having "adverse" feelings towards people who, knowingly or not - intentionally or not, have unearned privilege that I do not enjoy, or which they don't recognize or acknowledge.
....smart women rock the world. They just do. They fcuking rock the world.
Sigh...goddamn I love a smart woman..... | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:32:19 PM | I've not problem with those who choose inter-racial dating, but by the same token, I want to preserve my own heritage by dating within my own Celto-Germanic heritage. If the PC brigade deem that "racist" then I have an issue with that, especially when few condemn the Orientals and South Asians for having similar stipulations.
In short, I believe it is perfectly fine to wish to date within your own culture only, but not acceptable to undermine others who think differently. It's all a matter of personal choice, imo. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 9:24:57 PM | "Heritage" has never been, is not now, nor will it ever be a static enterprise. This is not Nature's intention. Just ask a geneticist or the American Kennel Club.
Every generation does, however, seem to produce those who think they are at the apex of Nature's evolutionary plan. This assumption goes by different names at different times. I'm content to call it othering. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2009 12:01:42 AM | | bah, it's just a preference who cares and wants them anyway! | |
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Posted: 7/3/2009 12:15:53 AM | | I guess Grand Prairie, Alberta must be swimming with asian chicks for the OP to specifically list them. I can count all the times an asian woman has contacted me through POF on zero fingers. I mean, in the off chance an asian woman were to contact you (probably like 100,000:1 odds) why not just respond with "Thanks, but not interested"? | |
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Posted: 7/3/2009 12:39:14 AM | I don't think you're a racist, dude. that's ridiculous. i'm not attracted to obese men because it's a chemistry problem. so? preference/chemistry/race preference/ethnicity preference. so what? blah.
of course i'm so narcissistic that it's difficult to think any dude WOULDN'T want me lol (working on the narcissism thing *g*) and i also get turned on looking at my bod mostly.... sick huh?
peace
*smokes pipe* | |
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