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 Epitaph28

Joined: 4/26/2009
Msg: 26
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 6/30/2009 5:16:00 AM
I'd rather Frank Murr win, but if I had to pick that fight I'd go with Lesnar.

Alves > GSP. Not mentioning Alves striking, TDD, etc. for the first time in GSP career he's actually fighting someone who is bigger/stronger than him. I think that'll expose some holes in his game that few have seen.

Decision Dan most likely wins. lol @ Bisping saying he's going to out wrestle Hendo.

SEXWAGON ROLLS THROUGH SIN CITY FULL SPEED AHEAD
 JMars

Joined: 10/14/2006
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 6/30/2009 2:59:37 PM
Alves is freakin huge for a welterweight ... walking around at 200+ lbs.

I think GSP is going to destroy him.

And GSP "greases up" as a courtesy to his opponents. That way it hurts less when he bends them over and ... well, you know ... metaphorically speaking.
 gueeds

Joined: 2/23/2007
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:26:16 PM
I've got Lesnar, he should have won their first bout if it wasn't for Mazzagatti's assessment of a BS point deduction. He should be able to take him down and pound him out for a TKO.

GSP is on another level from Alves, he's just the superior fighter here.

Hendo vs. Bisbing is tough, more than likely going to decision. No way either gets finished. Tough to call, but the edge will go to Hendo in my book.
 Ian1216

Joined: 5/11/2009
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 7:30:34 AM
I'm going with Lesnar, Henderson, and I want Alves to win but I'm picking St. Pierre.
 TheModernPagan

Joined: 11/10/2008
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 8:46:18 AM
Lesnar can win the fight if his ground and pound has come along. His first three fights he gets on top and does not do any damage with those lil **** rabbit punches. He needs to learn to relax, sit on the guy for a second, get position then bring the fists and elbows.

Henderson has no chance


Alves can only win the fight early with a hard shot to GSP. Alves is the more explosive fighter and can end it quick in the first round. If it goes past that then Skill will take over and GSP finishes him.
 natedredd08

Joined: 10/1/2008
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 9:28:34 AM
"Henderson has no chance"
Hamill and Rashad took Bisping down at will...Hendo will have him on his back whenever he wants. I don't get how people think Bisping is going to win this.

Same thing with Alves...sure he is deadly on his feat but whats he going to do flat on his back the whole night.

Lesnar/Mir is the opposite story..sure Lesnar can take him down whenever he wants but then he is in a dangerous position. Too close to call IMO.
 niceguyfargo

Joined: 5/15/2009
Msg: 32
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 5:16:57 PM
Totally agree, Mir was beaten like a punching bag by Lesnar. But I still want to see him win!
 ONE2ENV

Joined: 4/30/2005
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 8:10:30 PM
Well with my spot on ufc 99 picks I will weigh in on this...

Henderson vs Bisping..
-Bispings only chance here is to out-point hendo with jabs and his boxing ability. He will not submit Hendo, nor will he TKO or KO him. Now with that said I think Henderson can win this fight any way he wants. His superior wrestling ability will dictate the ground game thus exposing bispings over confidence and eventully wear him down.

-Henderson via DEC


GSP vs Alves..
-GSP has a huge reach advantage for this fight so I dont think TA's striking will be as much of a problem as it normally would be against a lesser, smaller ww. Now with that said the 'x' factor in this fight will be TA's leg kicks..Some of the very best in mma. GSP will likely play it cool for the first few rounds, taking little risks in hopes of taking Alves to the deep waters of the championship rounds and wearing him out as he did BJ penn in Jan. I think with Alves coming in at close to 200lbs fight time will likely gas out later on thus giving GSP the win. I actually wouldnt be shocked if TA doesnt make weight!

-GSP via RND 4 TKO


Brock Lesnar vs Frank Mir..
-This is the hardest fight to pick.. Mir has said recently he will likely come in a little lighter then before, While Lesnar is still strength training as hard as ever. I think Lesnars shear brute strength and speed will cause problems for Mir again, however I think this time Mir will be ready for them. Lesnars limited overall experience will cost him again here. I think Mir will pull guard and look for subs all night long.

-Mir via RND 2 SUB
 cathunter1978

Joined: 6/1/2009
Msg: 34
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/1/2009 8:10:38 PM
yah, lesner was beatn the brakes off of mir but i still laugh when i see him tap out lol. i would love to see another mir victory, but im afraid lesner is gonna win.
 natedredd08

Joined: 10/1/2008
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/2/2009 9:20:59 AM
"For starters, anything can happen in a fight, anyone can land a lucky punch."

So what? I could fight Fedor and Fedor has a heart attack the moment he tries to punch me...its not an impossibility...Saying anyone can land a lucky punch is being captain obvious.
Even at that though, Bisping isn't a heavy hitter and Dan has a chin of stone...
The only reason Bisping is considered well rounded is because he isn't really that good at anything!
If you look at the implied probability of the betting line on this fight, its way off if you view things as far as what would happen if they fought a 100 times..the line has Bisping winning 35 of those fights and hendo winning 65...No way bisping would win that many fights if they fought 100 times...

Mir is getting close to the same odds.. which makes no sense in the opposite direction..2 of the better MMA bets that have come about in awhile.

"If those two fought 50 times GSP would likely win at least 48 times but anyone can get lucky in a fight, it's part of the appeal I think."

If you really believe that then you should put some money down on GSP..the line has Alves winning 15 fights if they fought 50 times..
 ONE2ENV

Joined: 4/30/2005
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/2/2009 10:07:07 AM
Im not a big fan of betting lines.. I seem to have good luck with pics just by breaking down their individual strengths etc.. Looking at their stats and reading between the lines so to speak.
 trappedonbayst.

Joined: 12/19/2008
Msg: 37
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/2/2009 10:54:50 AM
Lesnar , Alves, Henderson

you heard it here
 rlt51275

Joined: 6/25/2009
Msg: 38
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/2/2009 9:38:51 PM
Mir is expected to come to this fight at or around 265 from what I've heard and his striking is in my opinion much better than Lesnar's. Lesnar seems to improve greatly from fight to fight so it will be interesting to see what he brings this time out. I think Mir wins via submission or decision....If GSP brings his A game then I dont think he will have a tough time winning. Hendo is a class above Bisping in most areas at this point except for striking, if it goes to the ground Hendo wins, if Bisping can avoid the takedowns and fight on his feet then i think he wins.
 PAYNE67

Joined: 3/24/2009
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/2/2009 11:39:44 PM
UFC 100 My pics
Main card
Heavyweight Championship bout:
(Champion) Brock Lesnar vs. (Interim Champion) Frank Mir / Brock Lesnar

Welterweight Championship bout:
(Champion)Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves / GSP

Welterweight bout:
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago / John Fitch

Middleweight bout:
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping / Michael Bisping

Middleweight bout:
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher / Yoshihiro Akiyama
 natedredd08

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/3/2009 12:37:37 AM
"Im not a big fan of betting lines.. I seem to have good luck with pics just by breaking down their individual strengths etc.. Looking at their stats and reading between the lines so to speak."

Everyone "seems" to have good luck with cherry picking winners on uncertain information with no real money of their own on the line..no matter what you are talking about....stock markets or MMA betting.. Naturally, with nothing on the line you highlight winners and discount losers as far as past bets..
If you really thought you knew something you would be a man and bet your hard earned money on it.. The reason you won't is because you know there are guys like me who have you beat. While I respect the casual fan, I have no respect for morons who post specific binary picks and ESPECIALLY calling rounds..that is the domain of total morons..because if you were so certain...you would obviously grab the hard earned money I'm putting up on my "picks"....

mir and hendo are the only bets on this card...with, if your sophisticated enough with your risk management a small bet against bone jones because people are vastly overrating him on one fight against a can. Even though it makes sense I can't pull the real money trigger against bones jones..
 ONE2ENV

Joined: 4/30/2005
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/3/2009 6:27:33 PM
First of all nate.. We are picking the same ppl.. Mir and Hendo.. So what are you complaining about? Why dont you ante up and pick the gsp/alves fight there champ.
 AdamMMA

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/4/2009 6:45:04 AM
My picks are :

Lesnar - Mir did well to beat Big Nog but I can't help but wonder if time is finally catching up with Big Nog. Like people have already stated though it might be interesting to see how Lesnar reacts to being hit...

Henderson - I think Bisping is a better fighter as a middleweight than he was at light heavyweight but. for all the people who reference Henderson's age, don't forget Henderson dominated Anderson Silva in round one of their fight....can you see Bisping doing the same?

GSP - Alves actually impressed me in his fight against Matt Hughes, in much the same way GSP impressed me against Jon Fitch, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg, BJ Penn, Matt Hughes etc. Alves might very well have superior striking but I think GSP has learnt his Matt Serra lesson well enough for this point to be mute.
 JMars

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/4/2009 9:27:48 AM
I can see Bisping avoiding the takedown, and out-boxing Hendo. It's not like he has lost to any of the wrestlers he's faced, and that was at light heavyweight. Still, I don't know enough about Dan Henderson to really have an opinion on this one.

I like Bisping, but Dan seems to be the better man overall. Bisping could use a little humility. lol

Lesnar and Mir will be interesting ... just in terms of what it might demonstrate about Brock's fighting/athletic aptitude. Has he really had enough time to develope a good counter-submissions game? No doubt, as a former WWE wrestler, he can take a hit. Afterall, shit happens in pro wrestling. But submissions is the big question mark on Lesnar.

... Alves ... why doesn't the guy fight at Middle Weight? Or light heavy ... or hell, why doesn't he gain a couple pounds and try heavy weight. He's not that far off. Is he fixing to be a welterweight Brock Lesnar? I dunno, it's just hard to respect a guy who cuts two weight classes to be competative. At least Brock has no choice, and is fighting in the only weight class the UFC has for a guy his size.

I just can't see Alves beating St.Pierre.
 AdamMMA

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/4/2009 10:47:08 AM
Well at the end of the day there is nothing in the rules about weight cutting...
 ONE2ENV

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:29:27 PM
Alves is not that big... He maybe walks around 10lbs heavier then GSP. I think GSP is great, but in all fairness he could make 185 and chooses to stay at 170.

The way I see it, if you can make the weight then great. Why bust a guys nutz over it.
 XxSelfHigh5xX

Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 46
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:32:07 PM
its true that Alves walks around at about 190-200 pounds. But he is only about 5 foot 9. He is kinda short for the middleweight devision, so thats why he cuts to 170.
 BMGfan2

Joined: 7/1/2009
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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/5/2009 6:19:47 AM
My guess is
Lesnar - I'm hoping for Mir though
GSP
Henderson
 Vanders Mark

Joined: 5/14/2009
Msg: 48
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:12:05 PM

The way I see it, if you can make the weight then great. Why bust a guys nutz over it.


Because he f*cked up against Hughes...didn't he come in at 174? what a joke...and Lesnar is a prime example of size making up for the fact that you have no idea what you're doing in the cage....fortunately for GSP...Alves won't have the 30+ lb advantage that Lesnar does....

After looking at the interviews....
Alves is scared...he's beaten already....
Bisping needs to be shut the hell up....I think he's a wee bit too over confident...
I love the way Mir & GSP are so matter of fact about their fights....
Mir will dominate if he can avoid Lesnars sloppy ham hock fists....and GSP will simply dominate...disecting Alves' skill set and making him look like an amature...
 ONE2ENV

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UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/5/2009 3:30:07 PM
^ I hope your right about GSP owning Alves.. I havent been this pumped for a ufc since ufc 84 ill will which I saw live!

The good thing is.. If Alves misses weight the title wont be on the line, and will prolly have to give some of his money to George.
 ItAllWorks

Joined: 12/2/2008
Msg: 50
UFC 100 Let the speculation begin
Posted: 7/5/2009 4:11:29 PM
MIR 60%, hate brock
GSP 55%, thiago more juiced than GSP, as juiced as ken shamrock was
Henderson 80%, brit stole 1 from hamill but he's much improved

Fitch I hope
Coleman quick, if not quick Bonnar

Miller over Danzig, like both but Miller better i think
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