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 Atlantis80

Joined: 9/7/2009
Msg: 222
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Posted: 10/24/2009 6:53:25 PM
"Why isn't this a subject that couples discuss upfront?"

Well it's generally not something I bring up on the first date, unless he loves a good debate like I do. But generally around the 3rd or 4th date, it's probably already been discussed. To me, it's important that even if he doesnt share my view, he understands it. And I want someone to be practical and rational in their decision making, not just "cuz I said so." If someone has good key points, I'll listen. But if it's the same broken record...peace I want someone who can tell me WHY they feel a certain way.

I would much rather date a person who is passionate about being pro-life than someone who is pro-choice but cant really tell me why.
 Atlantis80

Joined: 9/7/2009
Msg: 223
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Posted: 10/24/2009 6:55:50 PM
"No , he would have agreed or disagreed.
Men have NO say in the matter
And if he agreed , he would be whats known as a "Rainy day catholic"

In my relationships...my partner does have a say-so in the matter.

And he can disagree with abortion while still agreeing to be supportive of my decision no matter what it may be.
 Atlantis80

Joined: 9/7/2009
Msg: 224
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Posted: 10/24/2009 8:40:29 PM
"but he could not EVER explain what lead him to form that opinion. Total moron."

Yup...dated a couple like that. The 'blank stare" when you actually have the audacity to ask them why they feel so strongly. Its usually because no one has ever questioned their stance and I guess they think it scores them points to be controversial. But not if they have no idea why.
 curiousaboutu77

Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 225
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Posted: 10/24/2009 10:39:07 PM
I think the question of pro-life or pro-choice is a redundant one because that is what condoms and the pill are for. I think when you get yourself into a situation by accident or without thought and the baby cannot be looked after by the parents or parent or not wanted, then it is a bad situation either way. Even if you do keep the baby and look after it, it is going into a situation where it isn't wanted. Prevention is much better then a cure. Who is to say if the baby is adopted out that the parents don't regret that so unless the baby is wanted and kept, then it is pretty much a situation that won't end well in all likely hood so pro-life or pro-choice scenario should be avoided in the first place.
 GoodWitchBeth

Joined: 2/21/2005
Msg: 226
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Posted: 10/24/2009 10:56:26 PM
Seriously, in 2009, are we actually discussing this? Isn't this a personal choice, to be between a woman and her own personal morals and ethics, and if she is involved and in a relationship with someone she cares about, and feels comfortable telling about the pregnancy, then she can certainly talk to him about his feelings on the matter, but if say it was a one night stand or rape, she may have to make the choice on her own.

Every situation is different, and no one has the right to step in the middle and tell anyone else what decision to make. The government certainly does not have the right to refuse this medical procedure to women who need it, and act responsibly and within the law. If there are medical problems that force a woman to have an abortion later on in the pregnancy, that is a horrible to decision for anyone to have to make, but that is between the doctor, the mother-to be, and hopefully the father.

Believe me, no one in their RIGHT MIND would have an abortion as a means of birth control rather than taking the pill or using condoms...safe sex is just too important in this day and age. And married and monogamous couples have plenty of options that are much cheaper and a lot less emotionally traumatic.

These 'Right-to-Lifers' who stand outside of abortion clinics with their huge signs of massacred bloody late term fetuses that scream at already upset women who are making what is probably the hardest decision of their lives make me want to vomit. If you want to do something good for babies, go adopt one of the millions of unwanted minority children that are dumped every year in the system as unplaceable because they have AIDS or HIV or are addicted or abused...because they were brought into this world by a mother who couldn't afford an abortion, much less prenatal care, or medicine, or help.

Yeah, this is a sore subject with me.

Beth
 Rickeyes58

Joined: 3/15/2009
Msg: 227
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Posted: 10/24/2009 11:36:46 PM

and hopefully the father.

Exactly Beth ...................................................... HOPEFULLY
 Mtn.lover

Joined: 11/10/2008
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:03:58 AM
I gotta go with Beth on this issue myself, but as usual, I've got to take it a step farther. First off, I hate any group that uses our tax money to attempt to legislate their morals or beliefs on me or others. I want the government doing what they are paid to do, taking care of affairs of state. Go to your minister or the pope with you personal ideals and live them within those confines or join another church, but keep your shit out of our government. I believe in seperation of church and state and personally despise any religious group seeking to cross that line and enforce their will on me. I feel the same way about gay marriage. If the government had balls enough to tell the public to take that crap up with their churches and refuse to address the issues in any manner.....it would suit me just fine....and I'm sure the government too. I think we should have legalized gambling and prostitution because we have it anyway, but at an expence to the tax payer and a health hazzard. Why not make it legal, regulate it, and collect tax from it?......because our holy roller hypocrites have zero common sense and take great pride in being a forcefull influence on others. I just hate shelling out of my pocket for their stupidity.
 curiousaboutu77

Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 229
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:13:00 AM
My friends father was an illegitimate child from a rape and unfortunately, could not get an abortion and was unwanted child and boy did he know it. It was all quite sad. These things hardly ever end well so the less times it comes down to pro-life or choice, the better.
 Rickeyes58

Joined: 3/15/2009
Msg: 230
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:17:14 AM
I "FEEL YOUR PAIN !"

I believe in seperation of church and state

Then why is the current administration "pressuring churches to perform "gay marriages", Oh , you mean thats a "one way" door , I see


I just hate shelling out of my pocket for their stupidity.

I feel exactly the same way about "Presidential Blow jobs"
(You know , you would think ole slick willy could take a part of that 500 million from the Saudis he reported , when Mssssss . Clinton became secretary of state, and pay back the 75 million , his BJ cost us, I mean, you know how they CARE about the poor !!) .......
 Mtn.lover

Joined: 11/10/2008
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:53:05 AM
Everything in this country is corrupt, because the American people have always had their heads up their ass while the government runs off with their wallet. We are in the worst finiancial trouble ever, but they just shot a 75million dollar hole in the moon. I wonder how many pockets that lined in government contracts? Did you recall any public outcry? We just whine occasionally but remain bent over with our pants down just hoping it will go away without any effort on our part. The American people have become so passive and self obsorbed, that the government actually feels free to literly rub in our faces.....they know we aren't going to do a damn thing about it, but complain.
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