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 joesplace

Joined: 5/11/2006
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Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/15/2006 5:01:31 PM
1. Good, It would be better to see a picture about the same age you are now ..not when your in the 3rd grade.

2. Not all people can spell great ...Now..Teacher... should I bring this friend with me when I date to make sure I say the right thing. Or bring a lap top.... Lets make it real...Or maybe your looking for a English Professor....

3. Maybe they are looking for more then one woman and I am sure there are more then one good woman out there out there.

4.If your on the edge..Get out side help no help here...

5.If your bitter be bitter...Maybe that someone can change your mind Maybe a sweet angel can make you understanding...

6.Who invented this smack thing anyway...

Good advice but don't be to critical...we are just human......Not A+Teacher..

Woodrow...good advice and good reading..

But most of all........HAVE FUN!!!!!!!
 604 Enigma

Joined: 6/30/2005
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Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/18/2006 1:02:37 AM
Ok I just read part one and part deux (Yes I know that it's 2 in french). It's really great advice and that must have taken a super long time to create it. Woodrow, My hats off to you.


What I will do though is offer you a quick psychology lesson in why you’re doing this. Trust me, you don’t realize it (it’s called the unconscious, and no, that’s not just something that happens after you finish shotgunning all those beers) but this is how it works:


Not to criticize or anything, when something that you do without realizing it is call your Subconscious

Anyways great work I hope that maybe if there's anymore advice that you would like to share that you will.
 2133

Joined: 1/4/2005
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Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/18/2006 3:46:30 AM
Hmmmm... I will say that yes these "tips" are helpful, however that's a pretty large brush you're using there Woodrow in painting all of us men as apparent morons who can't think past their d*cks. It's also nice to see that most women have since followed suit in this thread. You write like an angry feminist, what's with generally putting down guys?. Now having said that, congradulations on stating the obvious, none of this is new..it's actually sad however that someone had to post it and perhaps worst that it came from a guy. Sad really.
 2133

Joined: 1/4/2005
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I guess some don't know...
Posted: 5/18/2006 4:27:19 AM
Wow, I was hoping for some pointers that maybe, just maybe, I didn't already know, when I read your two threads.

Christ, was I wrong. You state painfully obvious things, which I am sure are absolutely invaluable scraps of info for many guys. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. I read the screed and I bet I am still going to be just as hopelessly f*cked as before I read them.

Perhaps you should include this phenominal link in future instalments of "Women: for guys that have no clue how to think of women as human beings"...
www.laddertheory.com

Sorry this isn't a stroke-reply but frankly, some men just have a certain "je ne ses quoi"*
that insures that they will be without a signifigant other for a very long, long time.
Sorry ladies that have replied, apparently there are things that go on in your minds which you either choose to never speak about or don't know about and those very things are what make young chaps like me...uhm...well...for lack of the better word; f*cked.

I really hope there are some other guys that read this reply and confirm my little diatribe. Don't worry, Woodrow, I am fairly tired and I am sure there are holes in some punctuation and spelling on this reply for you to rip on...if you even look at this fossil of a thread anymore.

(yes, I know I am pretty bitter now, but things made me that way and I can [unfortunately]guarantee I am not the only one)


i gotta say..you are bang on wrar! Woodrow, you could do without all the sarcasm and the overall condescending tone of you "message"...gives the impression of arrogance.
 2133

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Goodness lads, just step back from the keyboard...
Posted: 5/18/2006 4:35:43 AM

A little larf of an advice colemn or whatever , which can be found under the heading of "DATING ADVICE".
An idea for part three, it could look like this:

Tips for men, part three...

If you found the advice bestowed on you in the past two instalments, you're completely ****ed. You deserve to be lonely and single forever. Please say "hi" to right hand for me when it visits.


hahahahahahahaha dude you're killing me! that was great.
 v_dubber

Joined: 1/17/2006
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Goodness lads, just step back from the keyboard...
Posted: 5/18/2006 2:08:30 PM
Hmm... I'm going to continue with the increasingly acerbic tone here, because… Well, because it's way more fun this way. And definitely makes for a more entertaining read…

I fully understood the Guide was a joke. Anyone who read it and thought there was even a shred of actual advice, clearly needs more help than can be found on an Internet dating site. (As a side note - I just read the Women's Guide yesterday - and it's far more "light-hearted" - maybe also a little more useful… Kind of a window into what men really think… I quite liked it. :)

Anyway. I think what struck a nerve with me, is not so much the actual content of the Men's Guide (haughty as it is), but more the all too eager replies from women proudly displaying their "Woe is me. All boys are stupid." badges. Not to mention the peculiar "all hail Woodrow" theme that permeated the forum (from men and women alike)… It's lessened somewhat, but still leads me to believe you could potentially write any pile of rubbish and elicit the same response… (LOL. Should there be a POF 10-step program for this?)

Now listen. In an effort to curtail some hideous onslaught of scathing retorts (assuming anyone's actually reading?)… Allow me to explain a little.

I'm not so naïve as to not realize and admit there are plenty of stupid boys out there. Heck, some of them are even my friends. I've gotten samples of all the weirdo emails mentioned in the Guide… I've gotten numerous emails that were just barely English… I've gotten unsolicited pictures of their "manhood"... But (and this is really just my own worthless opinion), fundamentally… Boys will be boys. I think the air of seriousness surrounding these juvenile issues is, well… Stupid. And quite frankly, the whole "girls talk and we'll rat you out to all our friends" rationale is all very 9th grade to me. I have this vision of the cool girls, sitting at their lunch table, pointing and giggling at all the poor little f*cks who misguidedly approached them that day… What is wrong with people?! Bear in mind, I've spoken to a number of guys (on and off this site) who all have their own horror stories to tell. So while women may be less often accused of outright "stupidity", we are b*tches. And some of us are just plain psycho.

Sigh. It's just strange to me, this whole theory of wanting to give your potential suitor "advice"… I mean, if you feel the person needs a proof-reader, etiquette lessons and a slew of other "enhancements"… Do you really believe they might be the one for you? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and hazard a NO. Perhaps one should contemplate dating the nerdy proof-reader, instead of his friend the hot dumb guy… Dunno. Just a thought. Otherwise, it almost seems contrived… Double sigh. Where are all the hot nerdy proof-readers…?

And let us just consider, for a second, the infamous c*ck shots… Does it show a clear lack of better judgement on the guy's part? Sure it does. Are they laughable? Certainly, most of the time, yes they are. (I think all of us here can agree on that.) But, how about thinking of them as more… Umm… Educational. Because, we're all familiar with that brief moment - the first time the pants come off - when we secretly brace ourselves for what we might find. So, in that sense; it's good to know what's out there. No? And c'mon. At the very, very least… They're always good for a chuckle.

Perhaps the most viable tip (for both genders) regarding their respective profiles (uh-oh, look who sounds pompous now!) is simply: Don't come off as bitter. Don't be needy. I'm not saying don't "be" bitter. Occasionally this is unavoidable, but might be only temporary, therefore it's best not to advertise it... And you're entitled to the odd needy day, although any state of "perma-needy" will likely get you nowhere.

Oh, and sweetpea… A woman's need for a man is more than tenuous… Even at worst. :)
 v_dubber

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Posted: 5/18/2006 2:13:29 PM
80's Dude... Sorry... Have to point out...

Unconscious: The division of the mind in psychoanalytic theory containing elements of psychic makeup, such as memories or repressed desires, that are not subject to conscious perception or control but that often affect conscious thoughts and bahaviour. :)
 jaysone3x

Joined: 3/2/2006
Msg: 83
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/18/2006 2:34:00 PM
WOODY WOW WERE DO I BEGIN WITH THIS COMMENT. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT YOU MUST BE GAY TO KNOW SO MUCH!!! DONT TAKE THE WRONG WAY NOW. ALL YOU HAVE WRITTEN MAY APPLY TO THIS WEBSITE , OTHER THEN THAT I SEE YOU PROBALLY RELY BEING ONLINE TO GET A DATE AND THEREFORE ARE A SOCIAL OUTCAST FROM THE REAL WORLD. GET A LIFE DUDE. GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GET OUT. OH WAIT THE SUN MIGHT FRY THE PATHETIC BRAIN OF YOURS THAT YOU STARTING GROOMING AT AGE 12 ON YOUR IMAC . THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE PEOPLE.
 typingsux

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Wonderful suggetions Woodrow
Posted: 5/18/2006 2:41:10 PM
I read the first few paragraphs of the first post.

All I need to say is STFU faggot.
 cerabus

Joined: 12/21/2005
Msg: 85
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/18/2006 3:00:09 PM
ok, I read both the dating guides ...umm, ok well ....woody's definetly got a sense of humour. Any real person though, besides knuckle draggers, can see it is written in jest. I does bring to light the obvious things guys do though. I can see though that after looking over some of the profiles of the guys who seem to be most upset at these guides that these are the guys that actually need to print them out and read them R-E-A-L slow. Maybe the idea of the writing will sink in.
I even looked over Woody's profile .... way too funny ... you should be a writer, dude.
 silentwhisper2u

Joined: 9/3/2005
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Posted: 5/20/2006 12:40:57 AM
Dave it is almost 4am on a night shift....and wow i love reading your stuff. You never ever cease to amaze me. Damn you are good and so now i know you can sing and write. I hope you are well....and having a good weekend.
anne
 wrar

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Posted: 5/21/2006 6:31:27 PM
Wow, didn't mean for it to be posted? Great, keep it up but lose the dating advice link then.
In reply to women whom take this seriously:
Wow, I am so surprised none of you are dykes yet because it really seems that if the guys you encounter would actually be able to read the "advice" and say to themselves "hmmmm, I never thought about it that way", you really should re evaluate where you aree going to meet these retards and/or your sexuality.
 604 Enigma

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Posted: 5/22/2006 11:35:20 PM
Ok I stand corrected. But I still believe that Subconscious has something to do with that.
 joesplace

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Posted: 5/25/2006 9:02:11 AM
v dubber ...I LOVE YOU!!! .... a relationship smart woman ...If I had a pic of my Manhood I would send it to you ....JK thanks for your insight You have been paying attention to the male counterpart...keep writing ...have fun.
 gynger888

Joined: 1/28/2006
Msg: 90
Wonderful suggetions Woodrow
Posted: 5/26/2006 4:05:37 PM
All I can say is WOW!...and if it wasn't for all you men...Woody wouldn't have any material, and we all wouldn't be laughing so hard (because we can relate to ALL of it!)...yeah guys, you know it's true,... now all we have to figure out is how to effectively clone Woody...hmmmm....any ideas girls? D :)
 SierraLeone~me

Joined: 5/10/2006
Msg: 91
Wonderful suggetions Woodrow
Posted: 5/26/2006 6:18:41 PM
victory- welcome aboard the forum boat-
Woodrow- is your second name Wilson?
Kudos to you! a well written, well thought out piece of work. Now, if only the eyeless men could stamp it on their foreheads ~ so they could read it.

Sierra
 rmg455

Joined: 5/12/2006
Msg: 92
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/26/2006 7:11:28 PM
ITS ALL TRUE. THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE DATING GAME .THERE ARE ALLWAYS WINNERS AND LOSERS NO MATER WHO YOU ARE LOSING HURTS .SOME PEOPLE ARE SO LONELEY THEY CANT STAND THEMSELVES .WHEN YOU HATE LIKE THAT YOU WILL NEVER FIND TRUE LOVE .WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROFILE AND MAKE YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD; YOU ARE IN FOR A FALL. IF YOU ARE NOT TRUE TO YOURSELF YOU ARE IN FOR A BIG FALL OR A LIFE OF REGRET AND OR HELL. WHEN YOU FINELY GET YOUR WEESEL WET DONT LET IT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. BE A BETTER PERSON IF YOU DONT LIKE IT NOW YOU WILL HATE IT LATER . LADIES A LOT OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IS WHAT YOU DESERVE . DONT LET IT GO TO YOUR HEADS BECAUSE 500 HORNEY MEN ARE CHASING YOU . BEAUTY FADES FAT CREEPS BOOBS DROP; ONLY TRUE LOVE LASTS. ANY MAN THAT YOU LEAD AROUND BY THE NOSE IS NOT WORTH HAVING. REAL MEN FART; SNOOR ;SPIT; GET MAD ;LOVE ;CRY; HURT INSIDE;CARE; AND GIVE .WORDS OF WISDOM FROM A LONELY MAN R.M.G.
 azureorb

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Posted: 5/28/2006 1:08:40 PM
vainh,
You're an idiot. :)

Woodrow has stated that he didn't ask for this to be posted as advice, but as a laugh. I'm cool with it being there as a laugh.

His #1 goal may not have been to spread advice, but to be entertaining about the stupid things guys do on a variety of levels. But that doesn't mean it wasn't advice to be taken to heart, either -- otherwise, IT WOULDN'T BE ENTERTAINING!


Of course, there are men that are simply clueless as to how to approach women, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with them otherwise. They are not dangerous, probably good, decent guys. Nothing wrong with giving them advice. I'm sure they wouldn't need to be told THIS stuff anyway. Only a complete moron would need this advice.

Some of the points of advice, yes, only a complete moron would need -- and we are in the forums, and there are morons who email pictures of their penis out. So how is this basic piece of advice to not be a dumba$$ making guys treat women as prey? That was your main point, remember -- and you refused to defend it, like the little b*tch you are! :)

Secondly, there is a lot of advice, with the prime purpose of being entertaining (which makes people listen, and those who don't agree still enjoy reading it), that is actually good, sound advice that isn't obvious when guys are raised to believe things differently or clam up in social settings. And sometimes, if some guys are newly single -- they need some reminders that aren't so naturally understood.

First, your point was that it was advice to prey upon women. THEN, you backpeddle and change it around, and claim that your point is that it's too basic of advice, only for morons, too obvious of advice to be considered advice because it was all about emailing out pictures of a guy's d*ck. Dude, you've got some issues.


I'm right, you're not changing my mind, and if I you can't see my point, good luck with that. Hope you'll stop sending pictures of your manhood to chicks at least.

Wow -- I'm sure you reel the women in, huh? A disgruntled wuss who can't even keep himself straight. And get off the concept of guys' penis-pictures, will ya? I'll make sure to send out pictures of your manhood to chicks I really don't dig -- to make sure they won't write to me again! Will that make ya happy? ;)
 recoildi

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Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 5/28/2006 1:23:04 PM
Almost a book eh..
 VainH

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Posted: 5/28/2006 1:25:35 PM
Fine, defend my point. Guys that would need this advice are mental midgets, emotionally damaged, and given enough time, probaby dangerous psychotics. Stalker-types, someone who might lock someone up in their basement. Someone so lacking in social skills to actually require being told they shouldn't go all reverse-"Fatal Attraction" on a woman is not someone I would want any of my female friends or family dating. They need a shrink, not a female companion. After years of intensive therapy, maybe, just maybe, they might be stable enough to have the occasional date. Even then, probably not a good idea if they breed.

Any of this sinking in yet, or would you like a another shot at belittling me? Does it make you feel like a real man? And stop thinking about my****
 sunny_girl72

Joined: 4/17/2006
Msg: 96
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/2/2006 7:06:11 PM
That was an excellent read, writing music isn't the only thing your good at I see. :)
 Chamounix

Joined: 5/29/2006
Msg: 97
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/2/2006 11:47:26 PM
Now, that is a great Tip. Allllllllllllllllll of them Nice to know that you think like that!!!!!!
 Ph0enixF1re

Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 98
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/3/2006 5:32:37 AM
Hey Woody,


I laughed my ass off, although you definately made things harder for those that knew this already.

Just one question, oh wise one, and the ladies are free to join in: What if you actually do work for the CIA/FBI/NSA or some other such thing. Better to lie and be found out eventually, or should you just have a "cover?"

For cover ideas, all you spies out there should read the thread on what proffessions are an instant deal breaker!
 virus247

Joined: 4/25/2006
Msg: 99
Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/3/2006 1:47:40 PM
Woody buddy, you have said some great things. But what you have said is exactly what women want to hear! What is the truth? WHY do you say what you say? Don't take this the wrong way, there are of good things in what you say, but there is no depth to this material... it is just an observation expressed in words. Any woman would agree with it... why wouldn't they?

Your advice to men is pathetic! "Don't do this", "Don't do that", "Stop that" is poor advice and is likely to piss off men more than help them. Those who have some brains should ask themselves "WHY" is "this" or "that" true? What are the basis for "this" or "that". Why is "HE" saying "this" or "that".

Put it this way... if all men did follow your advice, they will likely be in worst position then they are now! Think about it for a moment! Start your next "GUIDE" (not an obseravation manual) by distinguishing between real man and real woman (a lady, not a ****). A real man does not need to seek a woman... he is automatically actractive cause he "has his shit together". A real woman is one that realizes that. Unfortunetly, the problem(s) (the once you are trying to adress) is that there are only few real man and fewer real woman on this website. Most man here wanna get laid... (real man DO get laid...) and most woman here wanna a confimation that they are "pretty" so that they feel important and good about themselves (real women know that they are important and pretty ... think of princess Diana... a real lady!). Anyway.... it is just something for you to think about!

At the end of the summer I will likely have some time and post more on the subject.

To other man here: Use your brains! "Get your shit together" Read the book called "The Alpha Male". Read some personality books. Read David D's Double Your Dating book. Learn how to be a "real man"... btw David D. has also a program called "On being a man"... get your act together... those materials I mentioned should give you enough info for life! Careful of who's advice you take. Examine it yourself and see if there is any truth to it and try to figure out why it is true.

To woman: If all man had their act together, you won't be able to play the games you do now. If you don't want 1000 e-mails a day, don't post a pic with your boobs clearly screaming "**** me now, am I ****". A big one: if you are not interested in a guy, let him know immediately. Saying "Thank you, but I'm not interested" goes a long way. If you are interested in a guy say so.. .it DOES NOT make you a slut!
 last real woman

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Wonderful suggetions Woodrow
Posted: 6/3/2006 2:37:03 PM
For all you woman who do get those (enlarged ) photoes shall we say.... and web cam live shots....note so self camera adds 3 inches heheheheheheh
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