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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:41:34 AM | It pains me to say it but, having been on POF for only a short while, there are jerks aplenty. But not just on my side of the sexual divide, there are some ladies too that have some serious anger management issues.
But yeah. When you've been subjected to threads that describe some REALLY bad dating experiences that some women have gone through, like dudes showing off their tackles (willies) during a date, you REALLY have to wonder why these guys ain't figured out that stunts like that will NOT get you laid.
Knowing how to treat people with dignity and respect ain't rocket science. But as the World we live in clearly shows, I guess for a lot of people, it is.
Good points by the OP. I just hope that those that need to read it... Do. | |
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| Hang on, hang on. Stop the freakin presses.
Posted: 1/10/2008 11:56:28 AM |
you REALLY have to wonder why these guys ain't figured out that stunts like that will NOT get you laid. What I'm most puzzled about is that "these guys" ain't figured out that DOING stunts like that WILL get you arrested on a misdemeanor that just narrowly tightrope-walks a public crime.
Of all the things that I've learned is just how damaged and sociopathic some men are. If it were possible to put it on a personal level with "these guys" I wonder if they're not too far gone to be reasoned with as such: How would you feel if one of "those guys" did what you did...but to your daughter/sister/cousin? If it makes you cringe, then why o why would you do that to a woman you're meeting to, at a minimum, impress? | |
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| Hang on, hang on. Stop the freakin presses.
Posted: 1/11/2008 12:18:07 AM | LOL...
Another thing that puzzles me about these people, is that they spend all their time, energy and effort in preparing that dating "ship" to launch. After a period of time, they finally take the ship out to sea... And then, before their ship even gets anywhere, they completely scuttle it by doing stupid, moronic stuff like exposing themselves.
Just doesn’t make any damn bit of sense.
While in the meantime, a lot of the nicer guys haven’t been given the chance to even start their ship building process.
I can only assume that maybe some of these guys, who do crazy stunts like these, are perhaps loaded with heaps of money. | |
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Joined: 5/2/2008
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/26/2008 2:23:07 PM | I can't believe anybody kisses your ass honey you're hostile as hell. how does this help anybody? what do you mean men aren't required for procreation? Sex toys? what the heck woody?
alright then bring it on.
bless your hearts ladies you don't expect much at all? could you POSSIBLY be any ruder or more condescending? what's the POINT?
I LIKE men as people for god's sake close to my brothers and have men friends and have (to my girlfriend's ire at times) taken the side of the man when he was wronged, never mind.
But this is just throwing gasoline on the fire. It's just provocative and hostile. Bless your heart me old son you're a creep.
Suzanne Kavanagh
go ahead and have this deleted i could give a flying fling flang i can't even BELIEVE that anybody would listen to your (how old are you) 1976? bs at all.
You're insulting and nasty. I'll bet you're a coward with other men but never lose the opportunity to give some woman hell, especially when she's down like a little extra nasty surpise.
Part Duex - more like PART DUH! | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/26/2008 10:08:19 PM | This one was even better than the first one woodrow. I can imagine the seething and curses being made at you by the guys these rules apply to 
I would add some specifics explaining about posting photos. If the picture shows you have grey hair, or 'salt and pepper', don't say it's black. If it would take immense amounts of plastic surgery to even get the guy close to the red headed, inbred cousin of Brad Pitt - don't post that you have 'above average looks'. And please, please stop with the following two things if you do nothing else: Do NOT post pictures of your children or of you AND some children in the pic. The children are minors and likely not giving any kind of consent for it.
And stop posing next to your cars and your boats. It's insulting because it translates to,"All women want shiny stuff. Here's some of my shiny stuff. Now you want date me huh?"
And if you don't post pictures AT LEAST have the courtesy to take the time to write something more in your profile than two sentences about how you'll come back later to write more in your profile ( which never happens btw ) or use a lot of slashes to take up space as in ///////////////// like we won't notice your laziness and ineptitude. Say something about yourself, be specific. It doesn't have to be your lifestory and in fact shouldn't be, but it SHOULD be more descriptive than,"me write you read you want date?". And please stop whining about how hard it is to write a profile. It's hard for EVERYONE, not just you. Do your best anyway.
That said woody, as great as your advice is and the comments from other posters I have serious doubts that it will improve the majority who could care less about improving so much as just 'playing the odds'. | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 6/27/2008 1:24:12 PM | I dont know why anyone would want to date when they are so in love with themselves. I think most of what you say IMHO is a joke. Its your thing but give me a break.
Love is about being real; not following a guide that tricks someone into being with you.
This post is way too long and its not interesting enough to read the whole thing. Thanks for your time though. | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 7/3/2008 1:52:30 AM | This one was even better than the first one woodrow. I can imagine the seething and curses being made at you by the guys these rules apply to
I would add some specifics explaining about posting photos. If the picture shows you have grey hair, or 'salt and pepper', don't say it's black. If it would take immense amounts of plastic surgery to even get the guy close to the red headed, inbred cousin of Brad Pitt - don't post that you have 'above average looks'. And please, please stop with the following two things if you do nothing else: Do NOT post pictures of your children or of you AND some children in the pic. The children are minors and likely not giving any kind of consent for it.
And stop posing next to your cars and your boats. It's insulting because it translates to,"All women want shiny stuff. Here's some of my shiny stuff. Now you want date me huh?"
And if you don't post pictures AT LEAST have the courtesy to take the time to write something more in your profile than two sentences about how you'll come back later to write more in your profile ( which never happens btw ) or use a lot of slashes to take up space as in ///////////////// like we won't notice your laziness and ineptitude. Say something about yourself, be specific. It doesn't have to be your lifestory and in fact shouldn't be, but it SHOULD be more descriptive than,"me write you read you want date?". And please stop whining about how hard it is to write a profile. It's hard for EVERYONE, not just you. Do your best anyway.
That said woody, as great as your advice is and the comments from other posters I have serious doubts that it will improve the majority who could care
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Nice add Nicoblue - Some good points.
I am finding it hilarious how angry some of these men get, could it be they are finding themselves in a few of the instances??? This is an old post but still very applicable to some of the less then bright men on here. And for those men this doesn't apply to - you are appreciated!!!
The thing is the op states he came to these understandings by talking to women on here and judging by the response of the women on both part one and part two - I'd say he is pretty much on the mark.
Seriously, if this applies to you in anyway then learn, if not then why get so angry? | |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 9:12:44 AM | Way to go... If I may add.
On the real tip.
Don't make someone a priority if they make you an option.
In other words, if you (the guy) keeps writing to a lady and doesn't get any responses, puh-lease! wake up and smell the coffee! Its called, "She doesn't think you have it". And you can brush it off and think you can weasel your way into bothering her or forcing her to read your pathetic cries, it ain't gonna happen.
Its stuff like this from grown men that make me feel great that I have a functioning brain.
Much Graciousness,
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Posted: 7/17/2008 9:55:16 AM | | Wow, reading your post I learned alot. You should write a book dude. BRAVO!!!!!!! Thank you for helping me to understand as well. | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 7/17/2008 10:55:37 AM |
The sad part is that someone actually NEEDED to post something like this
Agreed. The saddest part, is the people who need to read it probably wont. | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 7/25/2008 9:24:18 AM |
2. Calling her a whore/slut/whatever due to her boob shot. Now, I have heard this from a few ladies, where because they put up a shot of their cleavage or chest, or their a$$ or whatever else, they end up receiving a number of messages from guys referring to them as cheap, easy, or some combination therein. Now, guys, if this is being done because you originally sent them a message saying “nice tits!” or ‘wanna f*ck?” or even a reasonably polite hello and were still rejected you need to either read the above rule number one or part one of the guide. However, if you’re just sending these messages with no prior interaction, this rule is for you.
Stop. I mean it. First off, it’s not a signal that they’re gonna bang every guy who comes knockin’ on their digital door. Trust me, if you’re a woman and you have what could be described as even a reasonably well-endowed chest area (which for 99% of guys means larger than walnuts) then they’re constantly inundated with men staring at them in the real world. Seriously, there are statistics that show more than 80% of women are relatively sure men believe a woman’s eyes are located on their nipples. It’s that bad. So you can hardly blame some for saying, “well, hell, this ought to get a few guys’ attention”. Women do this because they know for the most part men make Pavlov’s drooling dog look like a free thinker. Boobs. Drool. It’s automatonic in nature. So, cut them some slack and if you think that women should not use their sexuality as a tool to get ahead in this world, let them and I know when women are given the opportunity to get ahead on the basis of their abilities and with equal chances to vault past that glass ceiling…then maybe we’ll talk, okay?
Amen brother- I have had this happen man y times, in fact i changed my profile to refelcet this, and I refused to change my picture because i LIKE my pic even if it has boobs in it. Besides- I have BOOBS. And any pic I tke is going to show them!
Good luck everyone and I love this post! | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 8/21/2008 9:53:53 AM | This may be the most hillarious thread that have seen thusfar. The worst part is that it is true. Not that I am perfect by anymeans but, just like warning lables on plastic bags, someone has done all of those inappropriate things at some time. In itself, that is laughable.
-Jason | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 10/3/2008 2:04:43 PM | Great stuff Woody, loved it all...
One comment though on the "NASA-like engineered sex toys that are now available make a woman’s need for a man tenuous at best." item. Guys have a couple of god given sex toys as well, their mind and hand(s). If physical satisfaction was the only aspect of sex, I don't believe it would be given the importance it has to so many people. Self satisfaction will get one through the dry spells between relationships, but it's really no substitute for sharing emotional and physical contact with another human being through the act of sex, or more accurately intimacy.
Good job I'd say and I have to agree that it's a sad thing that these simple facts need to be stated. Then again it's true that for many people it takes time for them to 'wake up' and realize the complexities of human relationships. Sadly some never do...
That all being said, where DO I send my pictures of my "meat pole" 
Man did that crack me up... | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 10/5/2008 10:59:53 AM | Here are some friendly suggestions for the men of POF. Take em or leave em:
1. Don't pick a username with "69" anywhere in it.
2. Don't post that self portrait you took with your cell phone in the bathroom mirror. If you don't already have some, go out and get a buddy to snap some candid shots of you.
3. Don't post pictures of you and your ex.
4. Put a little thought into your "About Me" section. Though you may attract the ladies with your good-looks, we don't want to email a face. Tell us a little something about you so we can start up a conversation.
5. Spelling and punctuation matter.
6. Try not to title your emails with "hi" "hello" "whats up" or anything of the like. If you want to get our attention, send an email with a unique subject line.
7. Lose the standard intro email. If you want to tell your life story, your profile is the place to do it. We can sniff out a cut and pasted mass email from a mile away. Be original.
8. Let us know that you've actually read our profile and aren't just looking at our pictures. Point out something we have in common and give us something we can respond to.
Happy fishing!
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 10/17/2008 4:04:07 AM | | Dear Woodrow ... Write a book! This is absolutely hysterical. I'm directing non POF friends to the website just to read your online dating rules. Great writing. Wicked sense of humor! | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 11/30/2008 12:38:51 PM |
Love is about being real; not following a guide that tricks someone into being with you.
I don't think the OP's post consisted of any "tricks". They're not tricks any more than teaching someone manners is a "trick". As far as the old-school mannerisms like complimenting a lady's dress, that's a "trick" in the same sense. It's not that unconventional, either, because both guys and girls realize there's a ton of truth to it... It's not about being fake, it's about self improvement and coming to the realization of what doesn't "work". You're for self-improvement, aren't you?
Some guys don't like it (earlier post) because it's blunt -- I totally agree with the statement that a guy should not begin to correspond with any ladies until he's cleaned himself up, inside and out. Judgmental? Of course. Everyone's judgmental. It's a good thing if it's not reactionary and lacking stereotypes and emotional assumptions. It's all about being a better person and having a laugh as to what works and what doesn't work with women as a basic avenue of approaching. | |
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Joined: 12/18/2008
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 12/30/2008 10:28:36 PM | HOw bout y all don't try so hard.... it took me 2 minutes to make my profile
Don't chase, don't fill out an application , You are the ones taking apps, and have above all FUN | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 1/10/2009 12:19:44 PM | Ok. I have read everything. And it seems to me that everything mentioned is simply common sense. I have never been a dizzy starlet myself and I can string two words together. I'm not a bad looking guy, at least no one has ever told me I'm ugly. I have a standard to go by, which is necessary. I don't do stupid things like send pictures of my privets. Or transfer anger. I make jokes but not a falut. I try to be direct. I don't lie about anything on my profile, its all true. I'm not a jerk, I'm a nice guy but I also have that little dangerous side that you spoke of in you memo.
I've been on this site for a long time. Maybe more than two years. I have met two people in person, and both were only first dates.
I never expected that either time anything would amount, because it takes many meetings. But how can meetings be accomplished when you cant even get women to reply to your messages. Most deleted without even being opened.
I put effort into all my messages, and all I can provide them with is what they give me in their profile. I always read what they write, I always tailor my response to interests that we are supposed to have in common. I alway answer questions honestly, and with directness. I reply without haste, so they know that I'm interested, (I replied) but not to quickly so I don't come off as desperate. I share literature that I enjoyed. And stories that will help them to understand me. I ask them for things that appeal to them so as I can understand them.
And truly so many women out there say that they have a need for a man, not sex toys. You cant talk about how bad your day was to a sex toy. Or tell it how excited you are about something great that happened. It can't fill the void of a life partner. I don't agree with that.
Any way despite that fact that we seem to have some differences in opinion, I still respect that fact that you wanted to help. Help for the hopeless.
Well, I am now on that list. I have lost hope, because I don't think that there is anything wrong with me as a person. Maybe you can tell me something I have missed. Maybe there is something wrong with me that I can't see.
Have a look at my profile if you wish. I will even send you messages that I have sent to women so you can read what I have written.
I would like you to find the weak point in my armor.
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 1/10/2009 1:47:57 PM | | women send me messages i tell them iam a firefighter and before i can send them a pic i dont hear from them. i was told women are turned off by fireman oh well might as well get off of this site. | |
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| Wonderful suggetions Woodrow
Posted: 1/11/2009 11:35:07 AM | ha ha woodrow very well said my man to bad the ones that need to read it wont lmao
If they are doing some of those things there head to far up there ass to read any way. | |
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 1/15/2009 7:12:45 PM | Here's a fine example of what NOT to do. Have a crappy profile, no picture, and make some "I'm a nice guy and women won't talk to me" posts, then send emails to women like this:
you look like someone wiped there ass with you fireman 130
Anyone unclear on why this tactic *won't* work???
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| Online Dating Guide for Men: Part Deux
Posted: 1/15/2009 11:48:52 PM | This post is a few years old but timeless in its application. As a few of the repliers have noted, however, it is somewhat basic and anyone with half a brain would figure out eventually after being on this site for a while. As such I will try to add a few things that have helped me but might be a little less obvious. They are coming from the male perspective, of course, and you can take them or leave them if you like:
1. Never mention a woman's looks in any way, shape, or form online or when dating especially if you find her very attractive. There are a plethora of reasons why a guy should avoid doing this but for now the why is not important.
2. Profiles should be funny and interesting but profiles are not nearly as important your opening message to a woman.
3. The subject line of your opening message should be the most interesting part. Women generally get at least ten times the mail that guys do on POF so if it looks like the other 30 lame messages in her inbox she might delete it without looking at it.
4. Your opening message should be playful and fun and not show any real romantic interest.
5. Never, ever mention that you are not getting any dates or messages on POF on your profile or in the forums.
6. Never email a woman on the new user list. She is getting bombarded with emails and you'll probably get lost in the shuffle. If you happen to see her on the 'no emails today' list, email her immediately. lol
7. Never mention anything about sex in your profile or in any subsequent email until maybe after you have met in person and she is obviously into you. It is good to be 'sexual' but not horny. There is a big difference. And, remember, any time you are online and you talk about sex you almost always will come off as creepy.
8. Avoid at all costs the temptation to hit the IM button. The IM thing flashes every two minutes for most women on here who haven't figured out how to turn it off yet. They get really annoyed by it.
9. Never ask for a phone #. Always arrange to meet at a public place. Preferably a short coffee date where you do not try to kiss or hug her at the end. Your goal is to be so much fun and display so much value that she will ask you out again. Always make her bring poetry to read to you.
10. Do not be too eager to meet in person. Make her work for it a little. People appreciate things more that they have to work for. | |
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| fireman a turnoff?
Posted: 2/4/2009 1:39:49 PM | I about fell off my chair on that one, lol. You are sooooooo mistaken...
I remember a field trip to the firestation and one of the fireman was showing the children how they got dressed and what stuff was for. He got to the suspenders and asked if anybody knew what they were for & I whispered to the mom next to me "tying you up and dragging you home". Both of us were trying hard not to die from laughing & got dirty looks from the teacher, ok my point is, never mind my point, anyway I also heard on the radio of a list of top professions to fantasize about - fireman made the top 10. What woman doesn't dream of being rescued? White horse? Good luck, hope I helped! | |
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