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 teejay83

Joined: 2/28/2009
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Why is it that Corn Ethanol is the only type of Ethanol ever talked about?
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:37:08 PM
I agree with you captcolt.

Ethanol can only ever be a minor source of our fuel needs, because to order to produce the amount of ethanol needed to fuel the world's motor vehicles we would have to stop eating. I hate how the heavily subsided ethanol industry is driving up the price of food which is hurting people in the poorer countries and driving many of them to starvation.
 quietjohn2

Joined: 12/6/2004
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Why is it that Corn Ethanol is the only type of Ethanol ever talked about?
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:59:25 PM
No-one has even mentioned commodity prices. Sugar costs about twice as much as corn although I have no idea of the relative costs to convert it to ethanol. You have to wonder, though what the price of sugar could come down to if all of the economies (such as Haiti and many other Caribbean nations) which collapsed when the sugar market collapsed were able to grow sugar for conversion to alcohol. And what an improvement it would be for some of those nations. You could convert an huge acreage of currently underused land to profitable use without impacting current food supplies.
Now I wonder if anyone could come up with a GM strain of yeast to produce butanol instead of ethanol. Would people have the same reluctance to use GM based fuel as they display for food products?
 captcolt

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Why is it that Corn Ethanol is the only type of Ethanol ever talked about?
Posted: 7/14/2009 9:18:19 PM

Ethanol can only ever be a minor source of our fuel needs, because to order to produce the amount of ethanol needed to fuel the world's motor vehicles we would have to stop eating. I hate how the heavily subsided ethanol industry is driving up the price of food which is hurting people in the poorer countries and driving many of them to starvation.


I think we could run our vehicles on entirely on non-corn ethanol and still have plenty of food. We have the saudi arabia of Biomass in the S.E. U.S. . However, I also think that trying to do that would be majorly stupid. The only thing that drove up the cost of food is high oil prices and low value of the dollar. I feel sorry for animal farmers because they are hurt the worst with high corn prices, but I don't mind paying a few extra cents for my beef, but a smart farmer would be using distillers grains for food. Its all part of the cycle.

I think GM fuel crops are a great idea, but GM food crops should not be allowed patents. Monsanto is ruining our agricultural base in the U.S. They are single handedly putting farmers out of business, and costing the government millions in subsidies. Farmers should not have to pay for seed, they grow it. It is arguable that GM crops in the U.S. are keeping these poorer countries poor, because our productivity here is so high that the price is too low. This is much more of a problem to them then high corn prices. If you want to know more go to HULU.com and watch "the future of food".
 bwana217

Joined: 5/3/2008
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Why is it that Corn Ethanol is the only type of Ethanol ever talked about?
Posted: 7/14/2009 9:42:24 PM
1) Corn ethanol is the only thing that gets talked about because only corn farmers have enough clout.

2) It's absolutely untrue that you can't get E85 in Florida. You can even get it on the turnpike.
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