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 Consigliori
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Compassion, empathy, humanity is how you live your life and not a reflection of the movies you watch.


Your logic is convoluted but I get your point. What you mean to say is that the movies you choose to watch have no effect on your humanity. That might be true. But if watching people being tortured has no effect on someone, what kind of person were they when they chose to watch that?


But it wasn’t real.


If it’s not real - why does it affect you? Why are you afraid during and fearful afterwards? Why do you care about the outcome? Why are the deaths in gruesome movies, like Saw, more interesting than the deaths in PG movies, like Raiders of the Lost Ark? Why are the most horrible deaths the most fascinating? And how is it any different than watching a beheading on the internet?

My point is, given a choice between a lifetime partner who is into watching people suffer (real or not) and a lifetime partner who would rather find her thrills elsewhere, I’ll take the latter.
 ripley65
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:35:45 PM

I still maintain that those who prefer horror movies want to "feel" because they are "lacking" in sensitivity.


You are wrong, way wrong. I am the person who takes care of peoples grandmothers and grandfathers in nursing homes. I am the one who holds their hands, reassures and talks to them in the last moments of their lives. I am the one who buys them, with my own money, clothing and personal supplies when they have no family to do so for them, or their families just do not care. I am the one they call for when they are lonely, and just want someone to talk to. I give out hugs, kisses, and love freely to our elderly because that is just who i am. I am the very last person you'd want to say is lacking in sensitivity. I enjoy ALL types of movies but if i HAD to choose one or get my arm cut off,,,id choose a great horror flick any day!
 StraylightRunn
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:37:06 PM
I should start a thread on all evil shit Gingers have done to me in the bedroom. It's redonkulous.
 Aries_328
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:47:06 PM

And how is it any different than watching a beheading on the internet?


I really love horror movies. I did not watch Gadhafi die. I did not watch Saddam die. I did not watch Nick Berg Die. I will not watch them. There is no comparison of human atrocities to movies. None.

How many people that are revolted by horror movies watched those things for the sake of seeing it? Maybe the desensitization that occurred to me by my enjoyment of horror genre is to know the difference between a movie and the real thing enough to know which one is actually bad.

My logic is highly convoluted. You have no idea how convoluted it really can be. That is what makes me human. I can even hold two opposing beliefs of equal value at the same time. It's like a magic trick.
 lotustemple
Joined: 10/23/2011
Msg: 180
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Posted: 11/18/2011 12:48:10 PM
I enjoy ALL types of movies but if i HAD to choose one or get my arm cut off,,,id choose a great horror flick any day.


Fabulous analogy, do you express yourself similarly with your patients? Bet they appeciate that type of humor. "Hey Mr. Cortez, take your meds or I'm gonna yer good leg off, hahahaha."

Garbage in/garbage out. There's no getting around it. It's a law of nature. What you take in you spit out to the world and those around you, as well as significantly affecting your thought processes.

And horror movie fans are caught in a "catch 22". Each movie further desensitizes and they can't feel the effects. A more sensitive individual feels a marked difference after watching a good comedy vs. a horror flick. Even the next day.
 Consigliori
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Posted: 11/18/2011 1:15:41 PM
I really love horror movies. I did not watch Gadhafi die. I did not watch Saddam die. I did not watch Nick Berg Die. I will not watch them.
...Sam I am...

Come on, ya know you wanna. Besides it’s just a video and you’re safe on the other side of the screen. You can be afraid for a moment and then you can laugh about it!


How many people that are revolted by horror movies watched those things for the sake of seeing it?


Yeah, that makes sense. People who don’t care to watch people suffer in slash and gore films are probably the very same people who like to watch people suffer in real life...


My logic is highly convoluted. You have no idea how convoluted it really can be. That is what makes me human. I can even hold two opposing beliefs of equal value at the same time.


Convoluted thinking makes us human? That’s a novel concept. I’d heard that the distinction between man and animals was that we could reason and feel compassion.

vvv EDIT:


I am sorry if I do not fit the blood thirsty demon you want to feel.


Apology accepted.
 Aries_328
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Posted: 11/18/2011 1:21:18 PM

Convoluted thinking makes us human? That’s a novel concept. I’d heard that the distinction between man and animals was that we could reason and feel compassion.


I think you have very nicely made my original thought on this quite appropriate. What you are doing is called 'projection'.

I am sorry if I do not fit the blood thirsty demon you want to feel.
 Archangel_07
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Posted: 11/18/2011 1:22:20 PM
To the person that I'm dating that thinks horror movies is a deal breaker go ahead and leave. I can tolerate some of the horror movies but there are some I just don't like. To each their own
 ripley65
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Posted: 11/18/2011 1:46:16 PM

Fabulous analogy, do you express yourself similarly with your patients? Bet they appeciate that type of humor. "Hey Mr. Cortez, take your meds or I'm gonna yer good leg off, hahahaha."

Garbage in/garbage out. There's no getting around it. It's a law of nature. What you take in you spit out to the world and those around you, as well as significantly affecting your thought processes.

And horror movie fans are caught in a "catch 22". Each movie further desensitizes and they can't feel the effects. A more sensitive individual feels a marked difference after watching a good comedy vs. a horror flick. Even the next day.


Your whole post right there....is just total bullsh*t. All i can do is shake my head in wonderment. But yanno, that is A-ok. You are entitled to your opinion.

Oh..and have a wonderful evening. And if you don't, i'll come cut your good leg off

 Aries_328
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Posted: 11/18/2011 1:53:50 PM

But yanno, that is A-ok. You are entitled to your opinion.




Although I don't think it is necessary to give them the 'A-ok'. They are entitled to their opinions. That does not necessarily mean their opinions are ok :) Such is life.
 WomanInProgress
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Posted: 11/18/2011 3:55:14 PM

womaninprogress,
perhaps consigliori says it more eloquently than I, lol:

Seeing how many gruesome ways there are for a person to die just doesn’t give me a hard-on. Getting your jollies by watching people being tortured is not a characteristic I want in a mate. I prefer compassion, empathy, humanity.

It's only eloquent to the person's personal experience (or I hope it is).

1. The first and second sentence assumes that is the reason for watching a horror movie. If a person dated someone who watched horror movies for that reason - and they would have to be that type of person when not watching a movie or it holds no water - is personal to that person and that situation. Assuming everyone who watches horror does it for those reasons is projecting. And again - if you don't watch them, and you don't prefer those who do - all you have to go on is what you think people are watching it for. Since you don't know - why speculate? Why not just say you don't want to date people who watch horror period and then back that up by doing just that? The rest is hot air.

2. Anyone who's human is part of humanity. I know many people who like horror who can also (wow, huh?) be compassionate. I know, worthy of scientific study, but I've seen it personally. Empathy is misplaced in a place where no one is actually suffering typically - especially when they get paid for the movies they star in. To think people who watch movies can't tell real life from fiction would mean that anyone who is a fan of and frequently watches anything that's not real (Avatar, for example) carries that over into other aspects of life. In that case, anything else that's fictional is also on the table - so you can't really single out horror.
 sweetness-one
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Posted: 11/18/2011 4:18:36 PM

But if watching people being tortured has no effect on someone, what kind of person were they when they chose to watch that?


Well, IMO it's rather apples to oranges. Fantasy vs reality. And even then, where reality is regarded, it can be different again (yep, I can be convoluted too, lol). For instance, I certainly wouldn't be able to watch a documentary about the concentration camps in WWII without being very much affected and horrified by what I was seeing. (Actually I'd probably be turning the channel, but I'm well aware of what happened in those camps and would still be horrified).

But I'm also a Jack the Ripper freak. His crimes were still a reality, but seem much more removed than the events in Auschwitz when I read about them or watch a documentary on him.

Then for fantasy, Dexter is my favourite tv show. For horror movies, I did enjoy the first Saw movie, more so for the twist at the end, and the twisted psychological "experiment" Jigsaw employed with his victims. I thought it was rather fascinating in a "what would you do?" sort of way.

To me, though, the key would be being able to separate fantasy from reality, and I don't think it's that off the beaten track that I can still watch Dexter or enjoy Saw, and yet be capable of being an empathic person.

I don't watch many horror movies overall, though; I prefer psychological thrillers, especially if there's a neat twist at the end.

OP, I don't see why someone you date would have a problem with you enjoying horror movies, unless they're an obsession or you can't separate the fantasy from the reality. JMO.
 pretzelman60
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Posted: 11/18/2011 6:47:22 PM
I think a bigger red flag is when all SHE wants to watch are chick flix. Last one I saw was Bridges of Madison County. god, I hate chick flix! Give me Freddie, Saw, an Rob Zombie anyday! Women be damned! Give me horror, isn't that what a relationship with a woman is anyway? Horror? Just kidding(kinda)

JMO
 a_lynne13
Joined: 5/15/2011
Msg: 189
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Posted: 11/19/2011 8:05:41 PM
Horror movies are fun to watch....and if a guy thinks impressing me with a chick flick will do it..think again...I like my horror and action movies..I'll sit through an occasional drama or chick flick with my daughters but eh...not my style. But and there is a but to the horror flick movie for me though.....I hate slasher movies...give me a good vampire, zombie, or werewolf movie and I'm your gal! Any action film is good...I have admittedly watched vampire diaries on t.v. coz it's fun and my girls like it...and the Twilight series only for the young wolves *shakes head coz I feel like a damn ped drooling over young hard bodies* And please don't get me going on the sparkly vamps....I so can't stand them...I've only grown up with vamps being sexy, deadly, and lethal. or vicious like 30 days of night...now that was thoroughly fun to watch! For me girls are truly silly if they act all scared and shite about spilled blood and gore....The more blood and gore the better the storyline...maybe but most are cheezy to watch.
 MissLeslieD
Joined: 11/15/2011
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Posted: 11/20/2011 2:39:09 AM
I live on horror flicks. It's a red flag for me if a guy DOESN'T watch them.

A movie choice is just that, a movie choice. It's not a red flag, and if it is for a women, then you're with the wrong woman.
 Ailliss
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Posted: 11/20/2011 10:49:47 PM

horror movies = red flag?


Yes, definitely.
I could never be with a man who considers this entertainment.

Watching the gruesome dismembering of a human or sadistic torture of another is not entertainment. I can see some teenagers liking this tripe but adults? No way.


My point is, given a choice between a lifetime partner who is into watching people suffer (real or not) and a lifetime partner who would rather find her thrills elsewhere, I’ll take the latter.

+1
 LukeT77
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Posted: 11/21/2011 3:18:11 AM
I can only assume that those people who are criticising horror movies in general and their audience are only talking about the gory 'Torture porn' or 'slasher' variety.

There are plenty of horror movies which contain no bloody scenes at all.

Judging someone because of their taste in movies is ridiculous!

Are all those people who watch action movies aggressive and violent?

Are all those people who watch romantic comedies overemotional and soppy?

Are all adults who watch kid's films immature?

If people are seriously basing their selection criteria on nonsense like this, then it's no wonder they're still single.
 Tiina
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Posted: 12/23/2011 9:50:14 AM
To me horror movies are not a red flag. I don't watch horror movies myself, but I like horror novels. I do like SF films. The only sort of films which would be a red flag to me would be hardcore porn movies. I wouldn't go near a man who watched these.
 dmzvisitor
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Posted: 12/23/2011 10:53:22 AM
It would be a pretty superficial red flag, suggesting you should have a "red flag" for that type of woman!

I used to hate horror movies, but now I tend to think they are hilarious b/c they are so ridiculous. I didn't watch SAW, didn't like the concept. But Final Destination, or "Carrie" type ones where people keep doing stupid things that lead to getting killed? Hilarious. I won't go out of my way to watch one, but if I come across one, I won't be offended.

A big red flag would be *any* time a person (male or female) tries to persuade or "force" another adult into doing something s/he KNOWS they do not like--watching blood & guts movies, for example. If someone guilt trips you or ridicules you b/c you don't like something--bad sign. If they tie you up and tape your eyes open to force you to watch? REALLY bad sign. You are in the horror movie, not just watching it.
 Womac911
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:05:39 AM
I like horror movies, but mostly for the technical aspect of the F/X make-up and trying how to figure out how it was done. I used to do quite a bit of it myself as a hobby.
 Rrredd
Joined: 11/14/2011
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:09:41 AM
I've loved horror movies since I was little so I don't consider liking horror movies to be a red flag. In fact, it's nice when someone likes horror movies as I don't have any friends that will watch them with me. hahaha
 lacalli
Joined: 11/27/2011
Msg: 197
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:16:44 AM

A lot of women I know can't sit through horror movies, mostly for the blood but also many don't like feeling scared. I am talking space alien, insane killer, creature, huge shark/dog/gorilla on the loose,zombies, witches, vampire stuff.

Ladies, do you equate that to a red flag in a date or boyfriend? I don't mean he lives it, just that he likes scary movies.
Guys, ever lose a girlfriend or potential girlfriend over it?

BTW, I don't mean he forces it on her to watch, just that he does it at home when alone.
(That statement by itself does not sound good!)

So you're kind of saying that only serial killers watch horror movies? The remake of Cape Fear was the scariest movie I've ever seen. I was literally frozen in my seat, my guy friend was too I think. But fantasy stuff doesn't really scare me. I don't watch much of it but no, it's not a red flag.
 bamagrl68
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:40:50 PM
readyornot57- I love scary movies and lot's of women do. Find one who does-problem solved.
 Dominic_Deville
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Posted: 12/24/2011 12:26:54 AM
Most girls I know like horror movies more than I do. They are perfect for dating, when you make them feel safe.
 macongtr
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Posted: 12/24/2011 12:02:31 PM
" To me, horror movies are pretty much the same as porn. In both cases a story line is pretty much non-existent and nobody goes to see either one for the wonderful plot line. They are both strictly in business for visual effects. Nothing else."
Right - except for Dracula and Poltergeist and The Ring and Frankenstein and Rosemary's Baby and The Exorcist and Dawn Of The Dead and Psycho and The Stepford Wives (original, though the remake/parody had some good points) and Alien and Halloween and do I need to go on?
Wow, that comment is such a huge insult to Bram Stoker and Stephen King and Peter Straub and George Romero and John Carpenter and Spielberg (directed Poltergeist and Jaws, which follows what Blake Snyder calls the "Monster In The House" mythology) and Jack Ketcham and Hitchcock and Takashii Miike and any number of other great talents and dedicated artists who love creating work that unsettles and startles the viewer. And you are welcome to not like it and not watch it - you do have that option, I'm sure you know that. But take a minute to show at least a comprehension about what it is before you make a seriously damning statement about it's fans and talent.
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