Future, it is really hard for someone to understand what dealing with a man like this is about. If you can imagine the wife beater without the actual physical hitting, this is this man. They have low self-esteem, believe themselves to be victims of everything and everyone on the planet, and the proceed to make everyone around them miserable. Thinking about what is said and done in front of children does not even factor into their thinking because their main concern is themselves and getting what they want.

Itsallin, I can understand what you are trying to do but it is never going to work.

lets call her soul!!

Parallel Parenting

Years ago, joint custody was held by Courts to be workable only if both separated parties were wholly cooperative with each other. Judges often held that the mere fact parties were appearing in front of the Court was an indication they could not cooperate enough to obtain a joint custody Order. Thankfully, those days of a “Catch 22” scenario for parties seeking joint custody are long over as courts in British Columbia have dealt with the emerging concept of "parallel parenting."

Courts now hold that parties can be awarded joint custody against their wishes and even in cases where there are transitional disagreements over child raising decisions between separated spouses.

However, until very recently, Courts were reluctant to award joint custody to parents who bitterly despised each other and who made their feelings about the opposing parent well known to their children.

Courts in British Columbia in the case of P.Y.Y.M. v. D.M. 2003 BCSC 766 and the recent case of D.H.A. v. K.E.M. [2004] Y.J. No. 21 have dealt with the emerging concept of "parallel parenting."
Parallel parenting splits the duties of child raising so that each parent exercises the full panoply of custodial and guardianship rights independently of the other, with each being fully in charge during the time they exercise the care and control of the children. The Courts can even order one party to have exclusive say over an area of decision making for the child such as health, education or religion despite sharing joint custody of the children.

Parallel parenting focuses on the best interests of the children not on the parents’ dysfunctional relationship. The benefits of parallel parenting are:

1. A recognition that it is in the best interests of the children to have an equal involvement with both parents, which means children do not have to forfeit the love and guidance of two loving parents merely because the marriage broke down.

2. It reduces the parents’ need to discuss and thus argue over decision making for the
children thus reducing conflict that adversely affects the children.

3. It focuses on parental responsibility instead of having parents and children view a sole custodial award as leaving someone the winner and someone the loser.

In P.Y.Y.M. v. D.M., the Court heard Dr. Elterman’s opinion on parallel parenting as follows:

"In Dr. Elterman's opinion, it may be more fruitful for the Court to eliminate or reduce contact between Mr. and Mrs. D.M. and encourage "parallel parenting" rather than attempt to force "co-operative parenting". He referred to recent research that divides post-separation parents into three groups:
* a third are high conflict;
* a third are co-operative; and
* a third, who are in the middle, may be best able to parent their children in parallel households.

Ideally, every parenting relationship should be, or eventually develop into, a co-operative relationship. However, Dr. Elterman noted that it may be unrealistic to achieve co-operation between high conflict parents. A more sensible goal may be to encourage them to parent through parallel households. That method disengages them, reduces their contact and eliminates their opportunities to constantly bicker."

In D.H.A. v. K.E.M., the Court explained its philosophy on parallel parenting:

"The [interim] care and control order was essentially based on a parallel parenting model to keep the parents separate and allow each parent to care for the children during their time. The parents were instructed to discuss any significant decisions about the children but if agreement could not be reached with the assistance of counsel, either party could apply for a court order. Specific longer periods of care and control were ordered for the summer. I also implored both parents, who obviously love their children, to give a lot of consideration to their conduct as it affects their children. I specifically advised against denying access to the children."

The Court went on to make specific orders to give effect to separate but equal powers to the separated spouses:

It is not the relationship of the parents that is at issue. Rather, it is the best interests of the children that must prevail and I find that an equal sharing of the children will be most beneficial to them. Thus, F. and Z. will have the maximum contact with both their parents in a parallel parenting regime as follows:

1. Ms. K.E.M. and Mr. D.H.A. shall have interim joint custody of the children.

2. Ms. K.E.M. will have care and control of the children for the week commencing January 26, 2004 at 9:00 a.m. and Mr. D.H.A. will have care and control in the following week commencing at 9:00 a.m. February 2, 2004. Care and control will alternate each week thereafter.

3. Communication between Ms. K.E.M. and Mr. D.H.A. will be by e-mail.

4. The children shall participate in such extracurricular activities as the parents may agree on and the costs of such activities shall be paid by Mr. D.H.A. If there is no agreement on extracurricular activities, each parent will support the children separately in those extracurricular activities pursued during the care and control of that parent.

5. Each parent shall have telephone access to the children on Tuesday and Friday night at 7:00 p.m. for thirty minutes in the week when the children are in the care and control of the other parent.

6. Neither Mr. D.H.A. nor Ms. K.E.M. shall consume alcohol or drugs during their care and control of the children.

7. The parent who has the care and control of the children shall have the obligation to advise the other parent of any significant events that take place. Telephone communication may be used in case of emergencies.

8. Each parent shall have the obligation to discuss significant decisions concerning the health (except in emergencies), education, religious instruction and general welfare of the children. If the parents cannot reach an agreement, either parent may apply to this court for an order.

9. Each parent shall have the right to obtain information concerning the children directly from third parties including teachers, counsellors, medical professionals and third-party caregivers.

10. Each parent shall have the children for 1 month during the summer and shall share the children equally during the Christmas holidays and Christmas day, subject only to such other agreements that may be reached by the parties or ordered by this court.

11. Neither parent may remove the children permanently from the Yukon Territory without a court order."

If you can get your ex to take a look at this thread and post his thoughts on it. Thanks

Research on families of divorce suggest that there are primarily three styles of parenting for families after a divorce: cooperative, conflicted, or disengaged. Cooperative parenting is the style used by families in which conflict is low and parents can effectively communicate about their child. If you determine that your level of conflict is low, you and the other parent will probably be able to talk about your child’s needs in a healthy way. You will probably agree on most parenting values, be relatively consistent in your parenting styles, and have few arguments about your child’s life. You will rarely put your child in the middle, and you will solve differences peacefully. Research shows that children of divorce fare best when parents can be cooperative in their parenting. If you fall in this category, you should feel good about yourselves and know that you are helping your child immensely. There are many good books on cooperative parenting designed to help parents do a more effective job.

This book focuses on those parents who are in conflict and argue a lot or need to disengage in their parenting. Even if you can sometimes parent cooperatively, you find it to be difficult and are in conflict too much of the time. Conflicted parenting is the worst for children, who are often in the middle of the conflicts. Your children will adjust to your divorce easier if you can avoid conflicted parenting. Psychological issues that lead to conflicted parenting are many, and may include:

continuation of hostility that began during the marriage
differing perceptions of pre-separation child-rearing roles
differing perceptions of post-separation child-rearing roles
differing perceptions of how to parent
concern about the adequacy of the other parent’s parenting ability
an unwillingness of one or both parents to accept the end of the relationship
jealousy about a new partner in the other parent’s life
contested child custody issues
personality factors in one or both parents that stimulate conflict.
Whatever the specific source, parents’ inability to separate their parental roles from prior conflict in the marriage is often a significant contribution to the conflict after the divorce. This conflict is perhaps the most important variable in determining how your child adjusts to your divorce. Do whatever it takes to change your level of conflict. The first step in this process is to learn to disengage from the other parent. Disengagement is one of the possible styles of parenting after divorce. If you disengage, it’s like you have developed a “demilitarized zone” around your children and have little or no contact with the other parent. When you disengage, you will avoid contact with the other parent so that conflict cannot develop. You must do this first to reduce the conflict and before you can move on to the next style of parenting.

The second step in this process is what I call parallel parenting. In this style of parenting, both of you will each learn to parent your child effectively, doing the best job each of you can do during the time you are with your child. You will continue to disengage from the other parent so that conflicts are avoided. If you determine that you cannot cooperatively parent because your level of conflict is moderate or high, disengagement and parallel parenting is the necessary style of parenting.

Parallel parenting gets its name from a similar concept in children’s play. Research psychologists have observed that young children who play together, but do not have the skills to interact, engage in a process of parallel play. If they are in a sandbox together or taking turns going down a slide, they play next to one another, not with one another. Each child is doing her own thing with the toys, and generally ignoring the other. When they get older, they will learn to interact cooperatively and play together.

Similarly, parallel parenting is a process of parenting next to one another because you are unable to parent together. Before you can learn to co-parent, you will each learn to parent on your own. The first step of parallel parenting is disengagement. This means that you will not communicate about minor things regarding your child. You will not bicker over things that have always led to conflicts in the past. You will give the other parent important information about your child, but you will not get into debates about the parenting plan or about each other’s parenting style.

“Important information” means the health, welfare, and interests of your child. If your child is sick, you will inform the other parent of this fact, with details on what medication is needed, what has already been administered, and when the next dose is to be given. If your child has a school field trip, you will inform the other parent of the details, and use your parenting plan to decide who might go with the child on the field trip. Each of you should develop independent relationships with your child’s teachers, doctors, coaches, and friends so that you don’t have to rely on the other parent for your information. Each of you should take turns taking your child to the doctor and dentist. If you are the parent who receives your child’s report card, copy it and send it to the other parent. Do this with medical and extra-curricular activity information, such as your child’s little league schedule. Do not complain to the other parent when she is ten minutes late for an exchange of your child, and don’t argue over whose turn it is to get your child’s next haircut. Have parameters in your parenting plan for some of these things and ignore the rest.

When parents are trying to disengage, but communication is necessary, it is often best if non-emergency communication is done by mail, fax or e-mail. Only use faxes if both of you have sufficient privacy where you will receive the fax. By putting your communication in writing, you will have time to gather your thoughts and make sure that the tone is not argumentative. This also lets the receiving parent take some time and gather his thoughts so that he is not impulsive or angry in his response. Sarcasm is never helpful when trying to disengage from conflicts. Don’t share your e-mails and faxes with your children; they are simply meant to share important information between the parents. Try to limit nonemergency communication to twice a month, except for sharing information that is timesensitive (like faxing a notice from school to the other parent on the day you receive it). Obviously, emergency information about illnesses and injuries, unforeseen delays in visitation (as a result of traffic conditions, for example), or immediate school concerns should be shared by phone as soon as possible. However, by reducing general communication, and by putting necessary communications in writing, you will go a long way toward disengaging from conflict.

If you have very young children, you know it is important to share all aspects of your child’s functions with the care provider when you drop her off. In the same way, it is critical for parents to share detailed information with each other upon the exchange of the child. A useful tool is a “parent communication notebook.” In this notebook you will write down the highlights of your child’s emotions and behaviors during the time she’s with you. Fill out the notebook in great detail and pass it along to the other parent at the time of transition. Things to include in this notebook are your observations of your child’s health, feeding and sleeping patterns, language issues, your child’s mood, what soothes your child, what upsets your child, your daily routine, and any other detailed information about your child’s functions and needs. This notebook should stay with your child so both parents can use it as a forum for preserving thoughts about your child and her needs.

Another step in parallel parenting is not telling the other parent how to parent, and ignoring (rather than arguing back) when the other parent tries to tell you how to parent. Support different styles of parenting in order to avoid conflict. Obviously, some things are very important, such as consistent discipline philosophies and techniques, adequate supervision, giving your child necessary medication, and ensuring that your child gets to school on time with homework completed. If you have concerns about these very important issues, you will need a forum for working out your differences.

There are many things that parents argue about that aren’t so important. Some of this is related to different parenting philosophies and some of it is related to the difficulty of sharing your child. Accept that there is more than one “right way” to parent. Learn to be less rigid and more accepting of your child’s other parent. Rather than trying to change how the other parent does his job of parenting, do your best job of parenting during the time your child is with you, without criticizing the other parent. Children are capable of being parented in two different styles, and many children of divorce adjust quite well to two very different homes. Remember, just as you will want to avoid criticizing the other parent, you will not want to deal with criticism of your parenting techniques.



Excerpted from Chapter 2 of Parenting After Divorce (Impact Publishers, 2000). © Philip M. Stahl, Ph.D.

I don't think he wants to lose his verbal punching bag.

making threats that he will never share information with me again

I just wish I had the strength or obstinance he has to "not go there" and avoid picking up the phone when he calls....I keep hoping this time it will be different and for a time it is, until it goes right back to the "I'm a rotten person and he is Mr. Perfect" thing.......

~banging head on wall~

making threats that he will never share information with me again


in one breath and be against parallel parenting in another? Isn't the non-sharing of information part of parallel parenting?

Eternal optimist?

See my problem is not only this thread, but some of the inconsistencys you have posted about him as a father and a parent. Sometimes he is a good dad in your posts and a loving father and some times he is getting over on CAS. It depends on what point you are trying to make that day. Inconsistencys may be over looked by some of the old hens here, but some of us pick up on them.

Could it be the forums are a good place to get attention and the better the story the more attention it brings.