| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 6/30/2009 4:56:44 PM | Yes if your system is a modern system less then 3 years old. It runs faster, it takes up less reosurces then Vista and more stable then Vista is all the way around. As for Windows 7 vs Windows XP, It's amazingly faster in certain areas then XP is and more stable overall. The bigggest reason to replace XP with Windows 7 is if you are a gamer. DirectX 11 looks pretty impressive which is already on Windows 7 RC1 and will be offered to Windows Vista once Windows 7 becomes gold. ATI and Nvidia are about to release DirectX 11 graphic cards and if you want to take full advantage of DirectX 11 then you are going to have to jump to either Vista or Windows 7 from XP and it's def worth it if you are a gamer.
I think the biggest surprise from Windows 7 for me was how fast it installed. It was fully installed on my pc in 15 minutes. Where in Vista it took a little over 30 minutes to install. The big reason for that is that Microsoft got rid of a lot of their preinstalled bloatware like movie maker and windows live messnager etc.. in Windows 7 that came in older versions of windows pre-installed. Now they are apart of the Windows Live Essentials package that you can download separately from the MSN website.
You are way better off just buying it and avoid cracks altogether and just buy it to avoid all of that worrying about running into trojans, viruses, getting it deactivated by Microsoft etc.. Besides that like Windows Vista, Windows 7 isn't going to be as easy to crack like Windows XP was. Activation 2.0 can be lot tougher to get a crack for and keep it activated without it getting deactivated from Microsoft. | |
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 6/30/2009 9:27:43 PM |
System restore comes in handy too, but the cool thing about linux is that you don't need it.. right? Spyware and viruses also seem to be nearly non-existent with linux distros or so I've read. I'd like to setup my own linux server someday, but for now my patience and lack of certain computer peripherals are stopping me from doing so.
lol....Sometimes I wish I had system restore but you can always boot from the previous kernel (& hopefully it isn't hosed like the current one when you need it)
I used to reinstall all of the time when I started out using linux but thats how you learn.
You can run a server from your desktop/laptop if you want to, all a server does is serve various things to clients (print server, web server, file server, application server, dns/dhcp server, etc)
You don't need any special hardware to run a server (as long as you don't request more than it can give)
Check out Ubuntu Server:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatIsubuntu/serveredition
you can install it on your desktop/laptop & there are ubuntu forums/pof forums & documentation to help if you need it.
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 7/1/2009 8:44:20 PM | The bigggest reason to replace XP with Windows 7 is if you are a gamer. DirectX 11 looks pretty impressive which is already on Windows 7 RC1 and will be offered to Windows Vista once Windows 7 becomes gold.
That's not the only reason.
My old laptop (which I'll call the Acer) wasn't a very powerful gaming rig by any standard....my current laptop which is actually about a year older has very similar specs once I upgraded the processor (the mainboard in the newer one went out, long angry story). The Acer had a Turion 64 MK-36...2ghz with 512kb L2 with a Radeon Xpress 1100 chipset that basically had a 300mhz X300 core. My current is running a Turion 64 ML-37...2ghz 1Mb L2...but it's a Radeon Xpress 200 chipset...but it's got the exact same X300 core as the 1100...although the GPU cores are supposedly clocked different. The only major difference is the Acer had 4gb DDR2 and this only has 2gb DDR.
Anyway...the Acer gamed ok for what I played...with I think the most demanding game being San Andreas...trying to play it in the 32-bit version of Vista was buggy sometimes and the FPS wasn't impressive.
San Andreas under XP SP3 on this system...better than what Vista handled on the other system but not as good as the Win7 boot. When I get Win7 on this sucker, I'll have a slightly more accurate idea.
The 64-bit version of Win7 Beta.....that game played solid as a rock with pretty decent fps at a higher resolution than what I could run on Vista.
The OS is just better...period...and I'm judging on the beta version. I haven't gotten RC1 x64 downloaded yet to play with. | |
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 7/1/2009 11:28:52 PM | vaio 3g/250g runnun vistudder...i really ned to update my linux knowledge its been 6 years
home is a mac 20" all in 1 leopard i love it more than any system i ever built | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 6:07:43 AM | | Just want to point out since I keep seeing people state Windows 7 RC1, which is incorrect. Microsoft themselves announced there will not be another RC. The current RC will be the only one before hitting RTM. There are newer builds of the RC, but you will not see a RC 2. | |
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:11:12 AM |
Just want to point out since I keep seeing people state Windows 7 RC1, which is incorrect. Microsoft themselves announced there will not be another RC. The current RC will be the only one before hitting RTM. There are newer builds of the RC, but you will not see a RC 2.
Yeah, but in beta-speek....the first RC is ALWAYS called RC1 because you don't know when you put it out if there's going to be another, even MS for a while was calling it RC1. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 9:51:35 AM | | Having a first would constitute that there will be subsequent ones. Windows 7 will not have another RC. Also RC is not BETA, and I've never heard of "beta-speak", technical jargon yes, "beta-speak" no. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 11:37:53 AM | "beta-speak" was the term we applied within AOL for the many mis-namings they called the beta revisions of the software. Like when AIM went Beta...it was called "a gross hack" by some of the engineers...but the general term applies for namings such as alpha version, beta, beta2, all the useless names that indicate the product hasn't gone gold.
The term RC may have been changed, but me and a few other people in circles still call it RC1 becuase it's the *first* version to reach the RC stage. It wasn't known if there was going to be a second one when the first one came out...so the name tends to stick...I can't tell you the number of pre-gold/RTM programs I've seen that are called RC1 despite the fact there is never a second RC.
It's all subjective...there technically is no right or wrong answer. | |
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 7/2/2009 2:01:51 PM | | Microsoft won't be making another RC version of Windows 7. The newest build 72xxx is the Evaluation RTM. If you try to put in an RC1 product key it won't work. So it looks like Windows 7 will prob go RTM gold within the next month of so according to reports. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2009 3:43:04 PM | | Vista. I tried to get Mandrake 10.0 going at one point but couldn't, for the life of me, get Wine to work so half of my programs couldn't be used. Although, it DID introduce me to Open Office which I use faithfully now. | |
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Joined: 4/23/2009
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| What operating system are you using?
Posted: 7/2/2009 5:09:03 PM |
Vista. I tried to get Mandrake 10.0 going at one point but couldn't, for the life of me, get Wine to work so half of my programs couldn't be used. Although, it DID introduce me to Open Office which I use faithfully now.
You're best bet is to install the WINE version that comes with MDK from URPMI. It might not be the most up to date, but it sets up all your config files and directories for you, rather then having to do it yourself. Then, if you need to, upgrade from winehq.
-http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mandriva-linux-help/24579-w-i-n-e-mandrake-10-1-official.html
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Posted: 7/3/2009 4:13:51 PM | for my home desk computer i run vista ultimate sp2
for my laptop i run xp sp3
for my server i run xp sp3
for my mac i run mac OSX
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Posted: 7/5/2009 5:31:23 PM | | Win XP mostly. I also have a Windows Home Server and a machine that runs Solaris86. I had a Red Hat and Ubuntu box but kicked them out. Too fussy , no software, and no support. Suse and Solaris are better. Windows still can't be beat. I don't care about the OS. The OS is just there to manage storage and allow you to drag stuff around on the screen. It's the applications that are important. For the kind of stuff i do with a computer choices are limited to Windows and Solaris. For some tools a Linux install exists but they typically cost extra,support is lousy, and only run on very specific flavours / kernels builds. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 5:05:36 PM | How do applications on a Linux based OS cost more when the majority of them are open source? How about support when support is handled by communities much larger than that of the entire Microsoft corporation? I'm sure if you take the Gentoo, Suse, Fedora, and Ubuntu forums seriously there's more support there than anywhere else on the web.
I've never had a problem with linux in my life. If there IS a problem it's user fault. Even when bleeding edge hardware comes out it's supported firstly in Linux before windows.
I had SATA drives when they first came out, and they never worked with windows unless you hit F6 and loaded some BS driver. Never, NOT ONCE had a problem with Linux, distro of choice is Arch, basically Crux with pacman.
I will NEVER run windows solely again, only run x86_nt5 in Bochs. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 5:21:14 PM | I had SATA drives when they first came out, and they never worked with windows unless you hit F6 and loaded some BS driver. Never, NOT ONCE had a problem with Linux, distro of choice is Arch, basically Crux with pacman.
That's because Windows doesn't support native SATA drivers considering their isn't a universal device driver for it unlike PATA that all SATA's can use because each SATA drive may vary from one to the next. So when you install an SATA drive when SATA mode is enabled through the Bios, Windows will have no idea what it is unless you install that particular SATA driver that allows Windows to read it. But If SATA is set to IDE mode in the Bios, it will read all of your SATA drive as PATA drive, which will allow Windows to read your SATA drive as an PATA drive and will elminate the need to install SATA drivers during a Windows installation, because Windows supports PATA navtively. Now obv if you are trying to RAID your SATA drives then you have to set it to SATA mode in the Bios and use the SATA drivers. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 8:04:15 PM | Have you actually looked at the cost of a red hat licence ? i did today. 1375 Us$ including one year of realtime support ... i had to order a new machine and had to get a quote for the OS. As for software : the kind of software i use (mentor/cadence/synopsys/altera/xilinx) does not exist as 'free' or 'open source'. They are pre-compiled and only run on specific kernel / graphic shells. Most of the software sits in the 2k$ to 15k$ range and some go way beyond that. Most of the time windows and solaris distro's are cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain.
I do need to pay for linux os since i need instant support i can trust. Posting my questions on forums is forbidden. Most of the buiness stuff i do requires NDA's to be in place.
Besides these kind of discussions are pointless.
The OS is just a carrier for applications. Use whatever OS is required to run the apps you need to run. I have my range of apps for business (company provided) and i have my personal stuff. Of the persnal stuff , nothing exists on Linux. I only use some phot o and video editing like Photoshop , Lightroom 2 and Adobe Premiere CS4 in combination with specialistic hardware like a Matrox RTx2.
Try finding that for Linux ... it does not exist and never will. The matrox is designed specifically for the Adobe tools , and those are Windows only. Just like never will be able to run Final Cut on Windows. Some things are just one platform only. And that's fine with me. Most of the software an average person uses is not that expensive anyway. Windows comes with 90% of wat people use, and you can find tons of free stuff for windows too ( Opera , Firefox, Picasa, OpenOffice ). Besides Office is about 80$ for a home and student licence and you can make 3 installs. If you need the pro version (i write books in my spare time, and you can only do commercial work with the pro version according to the licence) its 199. That's peanuts.
If i send my final copy to the publisher they want ms-word format and drawings should be emf or svg. Word has a decent spell checker and the pro version also includes microsoft publisher which does a fair job for page layout.
Long story short : use the OS required for the apps you want to run. period. The best Os is the one that runs the app you want to use. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 9:40:42 PM | I have XP Pro on my main box.. OS/Box stable
Ubuntu on my PII.. box not stable
1 Might still have Gentoo on it.. was OS stable when I ran it 6yrs ago
& who knows whats on the 8 other HDDs laying around
At work I have Vista >_<
I might be getting an old box from a friend in the next couple of months, & I plan to test Win7 on it. If it fails then it'll be my new Linux/sever box. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 10:10:12 PM | | I'm going to be getting a optiplex sx260 for free from an office this week. I'm going to upgrade the processor to a pentuim 4 2.8ghz socket 478, throw in an 80gb 2.5 inch ATA-6 hard drive pull off 2gb of DDR333 ram from another old pc and see how well it fairs with Windows 7. The only problem I might run into is the graphics because it uses an Intel xtreme gpu and there is no pci or agp slots on that mini pc. I've read that Windows XP drivers will work, but there will be no aero because the gpu is too old to take advantage of it. Should be fun to see oh well it will run. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 5:49:13 AM | Windows supports SATA fine.... now. There are no differences between SATA and PATA except for the medium used in transferring data. Both principals are EXACTLY the same, except one uses a 40/80 conductor parallel transfer interface, and the other uses a 4 conductor serial block transfer interface. Either you integrated your own drivers in your old WinXP CD, or you went out and bought a SP3 one which included a base set of SATA drivers that would get you off the ground.
aichtoowo: why would I consider a Red-hat liscense? I stopped using Windows eight years ago because of the bloat. Why would I choose a bloated Linux distro? I prefer to keep my OS on lockdown, with min. packages and just the bare essentials (except I go overboard with pekwm, but hey, everyone likes a little GUI right?). If you're paying merely for support, you're getting burned and you should learn how to use google, because honestly I haven't run into a problem in eight years that google hasn't been able to help me fix and solve. Ohh yea, they have a linux SDK and linux drivers for that Matrox RTx2.
Adobe Photoshop and CS4 have sucessfully run under Wine in linux, just go have a look at winehq. Adobe Premier Pro 1.5 is successful in Linux when combined with wine1.0.0>+. As for office, ever since OO.org released 1.4, I haven't bought, looked at, or even considered using M$ shit.
I mainly run Arch Linux with a RTOS kernel, I do a lot of audio work and I like to keep my latency as low as possible. less than 3ms is good for me. Windows would NEVER give me that. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 10:17:55 PM | OK. So there is an SDK or linux. Fine, Great even ! Now , is there actually a linux application out there that uses it ? i couldn't find one so far...
As for paying for a red hat licence : the applications i run are supported only on red hat (there is a suse installas well i believe). I am not a progammer. The computer is a tool to me just like a set of screwdrivers. I do not make screwdrivers. I use them to make things. If i need a different size screwdriver i buy one. If the screwdriver breaks i go to the manufacturer and trade it in under warranty. If i have an idea for a new screw i have someone build me a screwdriver for it. I do not have the time nor the desire to make my own screwdrivers.
If an update of one of the programs is available the manufacturer comes and installs it and is responsible it does not break anything working. They tweak the install scripts and config files. That's what they are paid for. Those guys only want to deal with red hat. So it's simple. I use what works and is supported by the software manufacturers. I am not interested in learning how linux/unix/windows works. As i said : an OS is a platform to run applications. I don't deal with the Os or the applications. Applications are screwdrivers.
For me : the windows set of screwdrivers is sufficient for the jobs i need to do at home. Where i work i need a different set of screwdrivers, because of what i do ( i don't design harddisks integrated circuits at home. That's what my job is. I simply use the tools of the trade there. I have a project and it has a deadline, the screwdrivers better be there , and they better work.
Even though you can run windows apps under wine : why go trough the trouble ? why take a pc , install an os and then run an emulator to run a different os?
There is always some obsure thing that doesn't work quite right.
As for Rtos. If my RTOS would take miliseconds to respond on a pentium running at 2 GHz i would kick it as far as it could fly. That is ridiculous. I have written microkernels running on bare metal that have response times measured in machine cycles... as in nanoseconds. I have one running that takes maximum 16 clockticks to save cpu state and vector off to a high priority task. Handcrafted assembly in combination with a custom interrupt controller and arbiter built in an FGPA. The kernel is 170 bytes, supports 16 concurrent tasks and has full memory isolation between processes.
I don't understand why anyone would want to do anything realtime on a 'heavy' os like linux or windows. That is pointless. Thos systems are not built for that. Thats like taking a 5 ton truck and bolting a ferrari engine on... sure it can be done but it will never be a ferrari. Yes you may be able to rive faster than an unmodified truck , but the ferrari will still beat you, the truck will never look as nice as the real thing, and in case of trouble (you crash it): where will you go ? The truck manufacturer will tell you : sorry you voided your warranty, the brakes , bearings and chassis were never intended for these accelerations or stopping power. The steering train can not handle that either. you were operating outside of the specs. And ferrari will tell you the same.
Trying to make an RTOS out of windows/ linux/ solaris /osc is like changing the foundation of the empire state building , while everyone stays in it, with as goal to have a faster elevator...
Anyway. Everyone is free to do what he wants. I am simply giving my viewpoint.
I buy screwdrivers and use them. If the screwdriver is broken i get it replaced , either under warranty , or if its normal wear and tear by replacing it. If a new type screw comes along i may have to upgrade to a new model screwdriver or buy an additional set. And that is fine with me. After all , the people that make screwdrivers need a job too , and would like to be paid for it too. That's the way the world turns. | |
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