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Posted: 7/26/2009 11:52:07 PM | | They dont call it "The Poor Mans Lobster" for nothing...Deeeeeeeeeelish...Enjoy...Garlic, butter, little cheese?? You are in business.. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 4:22:10 AM | | ^^^Garden snails = poor man's lobster? Any reference I've heard relating to "poor man's lobster" has referred to monkfish. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 5:15:21 AM | Monkfish is great. Court bouillon ... terrific monkfish dish. Very akin to lobster in texture and flavour.
Escargot, I'm perfectly happy to get from a can or a restaurant. Live snails from the garden belong in an aquarium, cleaning up fish crap ... not stuffed in my mushroom caps with garlic butter and pernod.
I make escargot on a regular basis at home. I don't scavenge the garden looking for them. The cupboard, but not the garden.  | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 3:58:33 PM | Ras, just in case you're serious, here ya go.
Grilled Dove Kabobs
10 dove breasts, filleted off breast bone
2 green peppers, cut into chunks
2 red peppers, cut into chunks
1 large red onion, cut into chunks
4 cobs of corn, cut into 1” coins
1 lb. bacon, cut into 3-4” pieces
2 cups Italian dressing
Remove dove breast from bone and quarter. Marinate in Italian dressing for 1-2 hours. On a skewer, alternate vegetables and dove, using bacon on both sides of meat and an onion slice by the bacon – or build them how you like. Slow cook over indirect heat for 15 minutes, then cook on hot grill, basting with Italian dressing often. Dove should be cooked rare to medium-rare.
Charcoal Dove
12 dove breasts
Marinade
3/4 cup lemon juice
3/4 cup soy sauce
3/4 cup vegetable oil
1 tsp. salt
1 onion, chopped
2 cloves garlic, chopped
1 tbsp. Worcestershire sauce
Mix marinade ingredients together. Place dove breasts in large pan; add marinade. Cover overnight. Remove doves. Place on grill. Baste with marinade. Cook until done.
Dove D'elegence
12 doves
1 onion, chopped
1 stalk celery, chopped
1/3 cup chives, chopped
1 tbsp. salt
1 tbsp. pepper
1/2 cup evaporated milk
3/4 cup water
1 can (10-3/4 oz.) cream of mushroom soup
3/4 cup brandy
1 can (17 oz.) English peas
3 beef bouillon cubes
3 tsp. margarine or butter
Place doves in casserole dish. Arrange onions, celery and chives around; salt and pepper to taste. Add milk, water, mushroom soup, brandy, peas, margarine and bouillon cubes. Bake at 375°F for 2 hours. Remove doves and place on platter. Thicken gravy. Pour over doves. Serve with wild rice..
Doves in Wine
8 doves, cleaned and picked
3 tbsp. olive oil or bacon drippings, heated
1/2 cup sherry or dry red wine
1/2 cup olive oil
2 tbsp. Worcestershire sauce
1/2 tsp. salt
In heavy iron skillet, heat oil or bacon drippings; brown doves on all sides; add balance of ingredients. Cover skillet with tight lid; simmer over a low heat for 1-1/2 hours or until tender – liquid should never boil. Serve with brown and wild rice.
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Posted: 7/27/2009 7:20:49 PM | Nothing more discrete than a 12 Guage shot gun, spraying birdshot....Wonder when dove season starts here.... | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 8:13:17 PM | in the central San Joaquin Valley in California, dove season starts September 1st ...
every year, September 1st ... we'd wake up to the sound of buck-shot hitting our windows, walls, cars, trucks, houses, cows, chickens, burros, tractors, etc. ... being PEPPERED by these already-drunk "hunters" ...
I don't recall them ever actually killing a dove ... cuz, of course, doves have calendars, too, so were hiding!! I mean ... they're not STUPID!
apparently I CAN'T bring myself to eat garden snails ... but I SURE couldn't eat a gently cooing morning dove either ... or a tiny little wobbily-legged lamb ... nutz! I better check this trend before my eye-teeth erode away into purely vegan teeth! ... | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 8:41:42 PM | Hey Raszamatazz,
Don't use a gun to kill those birds. They are the hardest target of the bird world. They can fly at bursts of up to 55 mph and do aerial acrobatics. Hunting them is sometimes called missile hunting. If you really want to eat them and stay away from trouble and accidental hitting of somethng else with that buckshot, do this...
Make a Platform Bird Feeder and fatten them up, this isn't their fattest time of year. To make a cheap one just buy one of those LARGE (at least 18"+) clear plastic trays that you set potted plants in so they do not leak water on your carpet. Put some tiny holes in the bottom of it for moisture drainage. Look around the garden store and buy something else to make a top, but the top should be at least 6" deep and it is better if it is not see-through. The bottom being see-through is good enough. Even better, buy a rectangle bottom tray the size of a banana box and get a banana box from the farmers market or grocery store when they are stocking. Banana boxes are wax coated to be water-proof, which whaterproof is what you need. Make a very narrow, or small stand for it. It doesn't need to be any higher than you are comfortable reaching into. Doves are generally ground feeders. Providing shade is best, or make it under the shade of a tree. Doves drink once in morning and once in afternoon, so consider a drinking station too.
Attach the two and make one hole on each side of the top piece just large enough for the doves to get into. Fill the bottom of the feeder with cracked corn, millet, any other unsalted raw seeds or nuts and some grubs. You will attract and fatten those birds up fast. Watch to see when the feeder is most full of doves and then go out quietly and throw a light-weight mesh net over the feeder. Let them settle down and pull them out one at a time by cupping their breast. It may take a few tries, but they will tire out, eventually. You need patience. Don't give them a heart attack. If they get too aggitated, let them settle and try again. The best way to kill them is by cutting off the head in one swift chop with a very sharp blade, or wring the neck if you know how. I always hold the head with a towel, so they can't see and I can't see their eyes.
To clean and dress them just cut off the wings and pull the skin off, then pop out the breast. If you plan to freeze, soak in ice cold water 3 times, changing as soon as it is no longer cold, place in a feezer bag and push out all of the air. If you want them whole, just cut off the lower leg and tail and before skinning.
A great recipe is this...
Doves In Horseradish Crust
Mix 3 parts grated horserashish to 1 part brown sugar
Wash and dry the birds inside oput and rub inside with salt
put the paste of hoseradish liberally all over the breasts, or whole bird if using that way. Bake 10 minutes at 400.
Make a recipe of polenta and spread into a 9X13 baking dish. Spread a container of moscarpone cheese over the polenta.
Saute mature, curly leaf spinach (stems removed), or dark green curly chard with olive oil and black pepper, until just wilted. Spread the greens over the cheese by picking up the leaves with two forks, making sure to let the leaves drain any liquid back into the pan. Place the cooked birds over the spinach.
Any juices from cooking the birds and the greens juices mix together. On high heat educe the juices a little and drizzle over the dish. 
You can also rub the meat with kosher salt and thyme inside and out. Melt butter and mix in black pepper and brush it on the meat. Wrap each bird with thick sliced peppered bacon and secure with toothpicks. Roast at 400 for 12 minutes. The juices will be rosy. Never overcook any wild game.  | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 9:14:27 PM | | Rasz, what yu say about the nests is true. They are some of the worst nest builders of the bird world. They usually just use nests abandoned by other birds. If they have to build, you can always see through them. They are still missiles and feeding that trapping is the best way. I have a lot of experience with these things. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 9:26:49 PM | Rasz, check out this sight. It tells you about the different calls when they are mating, near the nest and so on. Which is good to know. I think they have an audio.
http://www.all-birds.com/Mourning-Dove.htm | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 9:39:22 PM | LOL Rasz, you are not a conservationist/hunter, are you? You get to know your prey like you are one of them. When they are near the nest, they are easier to catch. If they are not nesting, forget it. They use a different call when near the nest. A different call when mating and a different call, when just hanging out and passing through.
Doves are very likely to leave a nest with eggs, for good even, but once the birds hatch, they are good parents and will not leave.
It is also easy to net them when nesting, but I figured the feeding method is best. I prefer it. | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 8:12:57 AM | and I thot my idea to trap, clean and eat garden snails was gross ... and I can't STAND the nasty slimy things eating my flowers ... it was a ploy to kill the nasty little critters ... but I couldn't keep them, make pets of them then kill them and eat them ... and I wouldn't EVEN have had to rip their heads off using a towel!
the concept of learning their habits, feeding and nurturing the doves ... then trapping, ripping their heads off and eating these previously gentle, cooing, beautiful doves TRULY GROSSES me out ...
my happiest times were dawn at my grandma's house, listening to the doves quietly cooing nearby ...
I must have been insane to think I could eat a snail ... gag ... shudder ... I think my eye teeth are dissolving ... I think I'm forsaking my carniverous past ... I must be at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party! | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 9:20:54 AM | Where is the sport in trapping? I use to hunt and am all for it..Just know know if I could trap the little critters and then do them harm..I would rather stand a a long ways away..Doves arent that hard to hit, dont get me wrong its not like shooting beer cans, just practice, practice, practice....Dont forget to watch your muzzle sweep and remember to lead them some..
The land lobsters...Would it be easier if we called them that? instead of Snails? They have a great texture, not much flavor really..Anything you have to put that much seasoning on became gourmet after the fact it was probably discovered being eaten by poor people..I think a lot of gourmet food is based on poverty..Ribs, rabbit, quail, dove, snails, eel..To name a few...Am I right? or wrong? | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 11:52:20 AM | poor folks ... or HUNGRY anyway ... who but a very hungry person would have figured out a way to actually put olives into his/her mouth without gagging!? I mean, that brining process takes a LONG TIME!
and ya gotta figure anyone who took the time to figure out a way to get the honey out of the hive without being stung ... or picking blackberries without getting stabbed ... or soaking beans overnight ... killin varmits and cookin em ... those folks must have been hungry!
my problem with the snails wasn't what I CALLED em ... it was that I'd had em in my house and was nurturing them for several days ... it just grossed me out ... I have a real problem eating pets ... probably giving the snails names wasn't a good idea either ...
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Posted: 7/28/2009 5:57:50 PM | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOZpKtwBpM
Watch that video and you will hopefully change your mind, Molly. | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 6:46:54 PM | I love you Funkej! Fantastic video
Gordon Ramsey sure loves the F word....
I am so in agreement with this vid
As for those above that thought my dove post was about hunting and sport, you couldn't be more wrong. It has nothing to do with hunting and sport. It is about catching an over abundance of something to be used for food, no sport intended. I do not and do not advocate killing for sport. I would kill for food only and only in a humane way, no torture.
Just as Pistols and Pearls pointed out, people are too far removed from the daily hunting, gathering, harvesting and cultivating their own food. I have actually talked to people, as she has, that think meat comes from a meat factory and has no relation to the cows, sheep, pigs in the field. Vegetarians kill plants to eat and think they are not taking life. All is life all has a purpose. People are so confused. | |
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Posted: 10/24/2009 12:21:55 PM | "Hey waiter,theres snails on her plate!" Steve Martin
I heard the doves talking to each other,they said "we really shouldnt stay here too long" | |
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