This is pretty much exactly what I've been saying for a while now . What the f@ck happened to our society so that now it's so acceptable to be intellectually lazy ? Did our education system completely crap out in the last twenty or thirty years or what ? No wonder kids can't read or even add anything up anymore....they're told that they don't need to actually know anything. They just need to feel good about themselves. The dumbest idea ever conceived for the education system is the self-esteem movement and mark my words , that movement is the root of our current woes with academic standards and performance. Mostly it has eliminated the need to actually have kids learn about critical thinking. Critical thinking is just completely ignored now and even basic scientific tenets have been replaced with "Does it feel true to you ? That's all that really matters."

Sorry....had to rant. Anyway , yes , I agree with you Mad and the above is my theory of why. The inmates are running the asylum.

I find it ironic, however, that our technological advances since the 1960s go into things like Twitter, rather than, say, going to the Moon.

And our would be aerospace engineers of the future are too busy finding out what Miley Cyrus bought at the grocery store to study their calculus...

Mostly it has eliminated the need to actually have kids learn about critical thinking. Critical thinking is just completely ignored now and even basic scientific tenets have been replaced with "Does it feel true to you ? That's all that really matters."

Sorry....had to rant. Anyway , yes , I agree with you Mad and the above is my theory of why. The inmates are running the asylum.

Also for the moon landing deniers didnt apollo leave mirrors on the surface of the moon for bouncing lazer beams off to measure distances?

Yes. But those in denial of the missions (I'm NOT one of them) might claim that those mirrors could have been sent by just an ordinary rocket.

his is seen in a lot of "younger" folks now. They sit at a computer, click a mouse, google stuff and then actually believe all the crap that is on the net. Kids are full of bad info due to the net allowing a large voice to liars, deniers and snake oil salesmen,
We turn out lots of lawyers from colleges and less and less scientists and engineers.
They just cant believe that people of the 1960,s were that smart and innovative and brave enough to have done something that would be hard pressed to repeat today.
Also for the moon landing deniers didnt apollo leave mirrors on the surface of the moon for bouncing lazer beams off to measure distances?

we landed on the moon once... the video footage was damaged... the first time was top searet, there was a lander but no buggy, and they couldent stay long on the surface cause of radiation... the got baldy burned, but the apolo mission was a fraud... , and of cource there are minaras on the moon, both the earth and monn, and surounding planets are made of the same minarals, exsept jupider, but... the all contain rock, wich is where minarals are exstracted

Please, stop before you hurt yourself.

Yeah, I know what you mean...Wow! What possible response can you give to this?

Oh and to clear up a misconception, the moon doesnt rotate, there is no day and night, just a light side and a dark side. They couldnt of landed at "dawn" the best they could do is land on the edge of light and dark, in which case the shadows they cast would be super elongated. Which they didnt, the shadows cast would indecate they landed on the day side. I wonder what their boots were made of that didnt melt?

Also about the rover....why the hell would you bring it where would you go with it? They had to micromanage the amount of weight they could bring so why would you bring a golf cart??

And finally....the lander. The feet of the thing look like twigs. how do you go from 1000's of miles per hour to a soft landing straight down? There is no atmosphere to slow you down. No way in hell they had any kind of rockets to slow them down enough. At best they could go into a decaying orbit to burn off extra velocity which would make them land sideways at about 1000mph, discentegrating the lander.

Look at the mars rover missions. They landed the rovers by deploying parachutes in the atmosphere to slow them down, then released them in an inflatable balloon like cocoon that hit the surface and bounced back up many times before settling on the surface. The kinds of G's the rovers went through to land would of killed a human 10 times over. Thats the only way they could do it so how the hell did they land on the moon?

You all realize that NASA next plans to go back to the moon.
So all of this debate can begin fresh again in a couple of years.

Apparently, there's a bit of a gray area.

Joke. Pun. Bon mot. Play on words. Forget it.

It. is. f**king. dismal. to see the kind of ignorance about science and spaceflight that gets talked about sometimes in these forums by supposedly people who have passed through the public education system and moreover have working televisions and likely the capacity to get library cards...

I have to ask...what the hell happened to the eduction system and the shortened attention span? Is this startling evidence that people ARE getting stupider? Who are these "moon landing hoax" jackasses?