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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/16/2009 7:25:05 PM | MungoDave, message 178:
I'd like to share my 2 cents. This is my opinion. It seems that,in our society,the more success a person acheives,the more they are brought down by slander and unfounded rumors. Being a society that seems to thrive on scandle,too many people jump on the bandwagon as if it were a witch hunt.
Of course, you hit the head in the nail, with this statement. The more successful person is, the bigger the target. We are not living in the normal world, this world is full of greed, and fear and suffering. Anyone with such impact on people as M Jackson will stir strong emotions, will challenge the other. MJ message was Love, cause he saw the world unbalance.
It's not hard to see, take a look around what's going on in the whole world. Is there Peace, and Love?? Is the world well balanced? No, of course not. MJ spread the Love accross the world, and his impact was huge, there were those among us, who got scared, and tried to bring him down with false accussations.
We prefer eat donuts, drinking coffee and entertain ourselves with mindless tabloids, and judge harshly. In meantime, Jackson was creating amazing music, touched so many, impacted other lives with humanitarian work, saved a dying kid by finding a liver that was a match, saved another kid from dying due to cancer, and then was accused by his parents of molestation. Please, get a grip.
But if you truly listen to his songs, music and his own commentary on constant harrassments from media etc, countless interviews, he is pure innocence. | |
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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:21:30 PM | The post is in response to the many posts by La Gioconda.
Are you off your meds?
You can not be serious. Everything you said had no backing behind it.
In fact the only thing any of you goof balls who are sad for Michael Jackson have to say is that he was great.
Plus tell me what he did. He didn't write any of his music on his own, and whoever was helping must have stopped about 15 years ago because he has done nothing since.
You guys talk about bandwagon idiots, but obviously there are more idiots on the Michael Jackson bandwagon.
Also, La Gioconda, take reference in your bible and see what it says about boy toucher's.
If the bible were true Michael Jackson would undoubtedly be in hell. So find someone else to dance with when you get to heaven. Though i'm sure nobody would want to dance with you. | |
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| Stop praising this child molestor
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:39:06 PM | If there was a celebrity who deserved to die it was Michael Jackson.
Look at him. His entire family is messed up and he did his house up to attract children and he was the only grown up aloud in.
When someone with hundreds of millions of dollars gets acquitted then he paid someone off. Ask any lawyer.
Jesus Christ, you people are seriously retarded. I hope your children get molested so you know its not a joke.
Wait!! I just figured it out, anyone who liked michael jackson is a loser, therefore they don't have kids of there own, which is why they don't think its a big deal.
Seems like Balboa, Snickle Frits or whatever his name is., and I are the only sane ones on here. | |
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| Stop praising this child molestor
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:53:22 PM | | Nope, CRG32, there is at least one more sane one in the bunch.......amen, brother......good riddance to bad rubbish.......child molester? Abso-motherf*ckin-lutely! Overrated, overhyped, washed up, kiddy diddling punk...would've liked to see him go to jail, the sodomites would have had a field day with that idiot.....although death is a good second prize for us who do realize the truth. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 12:03:00 AM | crs1234:
although death is a good second prize for us who do realize the truth.
Death is part of life, it has never been separate from it, just like birth is part of life, too. We enter the world, go through it and then exit it. Are you hallucinating? Are you saying at the time of your own death, you are actually being punished?
Look at him. His entire family is messed up and he did his house up to attract children and he was the only grown up aloud in.
What is normal? Normal is someone you do not know very well.
He didn't write any of his music on his own, and whoever was helping must have stopped about 15 years ago because he has done nothing since.
as a matter of fact he did write his own music and lyrics. And you are too ignorant to learn that he was not a boy toucher, either. Instead, you are fuming with anger and call everyone idiot who does not agree with you. You sound like lunatic, people like you simple scare me.
...and CRG, you are a manipuater by changing the subject of the thread in the message 228, too. Yes, I noticed it.
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 12:47:19 AM | | Hallucinating, no..........this has nothing to do with my the whole life/death debate..........I just don't understand how this fool is held up to be a God to millions....I take it you're a fan of John Wayne Gacy as well?....he molested young boys, and is a pretty talented painter......I'm sorry, but anyone who pays off the family of a little boy 40 million dollars is pretty much an admission of guilt......especially when said young boy can identify some pretty identifiable marks on said child molesters penis........ignorant that he was not a boy toucher?.....my Christ, what planet are you from? | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 12:56:18 AM | | La Gioconda, If Michael Jackson is guilty of the horrible charges that were brought against him, don’t you think anger is the sensible emotion? Just because you desperately want to believe in his integrity, doesn’t mean he didn’t do it! Don’t you think those children suffered psychological damage if they were molested by their idol? Haven’t you even the slightest doubt of MJ innocence for the sake of the children? If all he wanted to do was help kids, why would he make them drink alcohol and then lure them into his bed? Is building a massive amusement park on his property that much different than John Wayne Gacy parading around with clown makeup on? If believing that MJ is a little angel, moondancing in God’s holy garden helps you sleep at night, run with it. But you blind faith types scare the bejesus out of me. (It's even creepier than the people that are convinced he's innocent because they love his music.) | |
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| Stop praising this child molestor
Posted: 7/17/2009 1:38:05 AM |
Jesus Christ, you people are seriously retarded. I hope your children get molested so you know its not a joke.
32, you stepped WAYYYY over there, bro... Does 81 or Red & White mean anything to you?
Nobody gets away with any wishes or even kidding about kids gettin' it. I hope Bubba makes you darn his sox before you ever fathom my first sentence- For YOUR own good, if there is any in you...
Think careful, buddy, before you go wishing that on innocent kids... I guarantee it'll come back to you. Some of us'd PAY a mo-fo to do that to YOU in some places- Where maybe, someone like you belongs...
Someone, somewhere....
Tighten yo' ass up, 32. I know you meant to make a wise crack, but truthfully, it was the dumbassest thing I've seen posted here in a LOOONG friggin' time...
Some of these folks may not take it that way though, especially if... Never mind... Again- I mean, if you "get" my first sentence. If ya don't, then there's likely no hope for you, anyway.
-damoN-(I ain't jerkin' his chain emoticon, please?) | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 6:26:42 AM | crs1234, he did pay to the family, because he didn't want to drag the case, and this is precisely what the family wanted, his money. Ever asked yourself, why did they accept the money????.... or, they just wanted to see him guilty?
Its not about me wanting to see MJ innocent, but those allegations against him simply do not make sense. You choose to believe what media propagades, then it's your choice. I see his flaw in opening too much to the family who simply used him and abused him. As if he would invite those children openly to molest them? In my opinion, he was naive in thinking that this world is as innocent as he is. End of story and period. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2009 8:09:05 AM | | OK, ask yourself this: what was Michael Jackson doing at the time that was more important than clearing his name? If I was charged with child molestation and was innocent, I would want to see it through and get an innocent verdict! The fact that MJ paid his accusers “hush money” has done nothing but cast a long, dark shadow over his reputation. With all the people that feel sorry for MJ, I haven't heard ANYBODY thus far express any concern for his victims. I sure hope those parents took some of that money and got some counseling for those poor kids. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 1:43:04 PM | The more successful person is, the bigger the target. – MungoDave
If this is true, how can you feel sorry for him? He should have realized that and not put himself in such a precarious position. To me, it just demonstrates how deep MJ had sunk into his self-indulgent fantasy world.
I said earlier that paying off his accusers has done nothing but cast a long, dark shadow over Michael Jackson’s reputation. Once again, I’ve underestimate the bizarre mindset of his rabid following. There is nothing, absolutely nothing he could have done that will tarnish his image for you fans. If your kids told you that he had molested them and he told you that he hadn’t, you would probably take his word over your own children. I have never, NEVER seen anything like this in my entire life. How can anyone begin to understand the mind melting effect MJ has over normally rational people? I suspect that if MJ is remembered for anything in the future, his music will pale in comparison to the pit of excess and depravity he ushered his disciples into.
There. I would like to say that’s my final word on this matter but I’m sure someone will write in about how wrong and screwed up I am and I’ll have to return. Like I said before, I recommend that you starry-eyed fans steer clear of the legal aspects of this debate and what a divine prophet he was and just concentrate on his music. Nobody (not me anyway) is going to argue with you about how much he rocked. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 2:14:19 PM | Balboa, You keep repeating yourself like a parrot about child molestation. In meantime, MJ was cleared of the charges, thousands hate him, millions will love him for ever. Btw, I was never his fan, either...you got this wrong. I started researching his work and documentaries and drew my own conclusions. I won't be engaging in 'vicious circle' conversations. I have said enough.
I wonder what it was about MJ that despite of criticism, accusations and hatred, millions were drawn to him like 'moth to light'. I wonder, what was it about him, what sort of force that millions could not help themselves in his presence, cause of the energy his exhumed. People could not help themselves in his presence. Only Charismatic personalities have this kind of force, not child molester. Ever wondered, he didn't have a normal life either, not being able to go to a public place, to a grocery store, nono of it.
People can do all sort of nasty things to each other, but no one can prevent anyone from thinking, using their brain and draw their own conclusion. ~La Gioconda | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 2:15:52 PM | Balboa has already proven himself dishonorable in that he gave his word that he was done with this thread several times and has continued to break it solely for the purpose of instigating. A real man honors his commitment and keeps his word. He has shown us where he stands. He wants attention and validation. Nothing more.
And he's obviously not the only one. Please stop feeding the trolls. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 3:24:46 PM | | Okay......am I the only one who remembers that this kid identified some pretty distinguishable marks on Jacko's penis?..........I guess I'm the crazy one.........and Gene Simmons, who I have no real respect for, said something very interesting. Words to the effect that he would spend every last dime in the world, to take it to court and prove himself innocent, if that's what it took......I'm thinking Mike's legal bill would have been a little cheaper than 40 million. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/17/2009 10:26:43 PM | | Eh,no need to get all technical that I used the term"child raper"as apposed to "child molester"but then I guess that's part of the overall problem.Some folks would rather get all testy and offended over a terminology than the fact that some type of unnatural and perverse action more than likely occurred."Oh you said this blah-blah instead of that blah-blah"meanwhile more children are decimated.Ooops,I forgot..they're not being decimated by this discolored rotting corpse anymore are they?(other than the ones the damage is already done to). | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 1:27:18 PM | The terminology matters a great deal when the law is involved. As a survivor myself I understand how certain actions would get more jail time...and it depends on the number of years passed, the age of the children, etc etc. It all becomes VERY important when prosecuting.
Before you go off spouting garbage from you mouth, that is completely unsubstantiated, perhaps you should get a bit of education on the subject. And also on the facts of the case....because there is Indeed a huge difference between actual penetration....and just touching or molestation.
I'll give you the same advice I gave another guy on here spouting off at the mouth. If you are so concerned about helping children, then become a guardian ad litem and go to into trial to help kids who have actually gone through these things. Act as a liason between them and the courts. Or volunteer your time helping in some way. You guys like to point fingers and accuse someone who was acquitted. And in the first case no evidence found warranting a criminal trial. Yet where are you when the children who really need help and really are being hurt need you???
It's very easy to file a false report. I had one filed against me for child neglect by my ex husbands 3rd ex wife. The DCF came out and the guy was like WTF...I told him I knew who had done it...he wasn't at liberty to say but said my ideas were pretty much on target. i told him the sad thing was, while he was out at my house confirming my child was being fed, 100's of other kids were being neglected and abused. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 3:24:05 PM | Forget it, crs1234, They're right and you're wrong. They're disciples of the supreme Lord Jacko and we're trolls. I'M WARNING YOU GUYS. If you don't want people like me to come forward and shake the lofty perch you're sitting on, YOU'D BETTER COOL IT WITH THE NAME CALLING CRAP.
I've tried to be as fair as I can to a person I find disturbing, to say the least. I challenge you fans to go back and quote anything I've said that's nothing more than a vicious and unwarranted attack on poor, misunderstood Michael Jackson. (Things I've said that are simply different than your opinion don't count.) | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 4:01:36 PM | | Yep, I hear you man.........we're just poor, uneducated slobs..........and raiderfan....... there is no difference between actual penetration, and touching/molestation............but, are you trying to tell the world, that there is a lesser of either of those two evils? Maybe in the eyes of the law, but to anyone with a half a brain, and a bit of compassion for children who have to go through this, there is no difference.......how you morons can justify and defend this piece of crap is beyond me.......anyway you want to spin it, you're still taking advantage of a child in a very disgusting manner. and AGAIN.......THE BOY WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME VERY DISTINGUISHABLE MARKS ON THAT KIDDIE DIDDLERS PENIS.........am I seriously the only person in the world who remembers this? raiderfan, I would love to hear your comment on that. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 6:20:13 PM | | CRS I guess you didn't realize that in this particular case in 1993 the kid identified marks....however, the law said there was no evidence to proceed with a criminal case. So apparently whatever the kid identified didn't match up with their examination of Jackson. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 6:28:00 PM | For the receord, yet again. I have gone through this with the stepfather who adopted me...and I do give a damn about kids because I work with them on a daily basis, and have for the last 11 years.
If you choose to believe a father who was after money and custody...and not the police who said there was no evidence...and a mother who had a history of lawsuits, instead of the jury who said there was no evidence, that is your perogative...just as it is ours to say what we see doesn't jive with what you see.
We have already agreed to disagree. I say get the facts straight. Every single one of them when you make your accusations. I don't mind listening to someone who at least brings the facts to the table. But even then....you will believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. | |
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| Good bye Michael Jackson......
Posted: 7/18/2009 6:30:50 PM | One last thing before i got out dancing....
I hope you guys were just as passionate in your anger at pedophiles when R Kelly went to trial. Because unlike Michael, there was clear cut evidence in that case. | |
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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/18/2009 9:18:27 PM | country singer tanya tucker said today she cant enjoy her new album thats out now because of mj's death.
just goes to show how many lives mj's music and dancing touched.
i saw mj's pepsi spot when his hair caught fire, graphic.wasted good moves | |
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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/19/2009 6:58:51 AM | | I love Michael Jackson the singer, performer and the person. He was so unique and so loving and sent a message with all his songs to get people to wake up. But hate mungers are so prevalent in the world that no matter how great a person is they will try to destroy the person for their own sick twisted entertainment. I have watched many famous people have their careers destroyed by a holes. I could use worse words but I don't want to act like an a hole. I don't really care what the aholes have to say because they are ignorant as Michael says and ignorance is so wide spread there should be a law against it. Becareful hatemungers your sething anger to destroy people will come back full circle and you may be the one in the hot seat some day and maybe then you will understand what people like Michael went through. I believe that because of Joe Jacksons relentless abuse and ridicul of his face, nose and beatings, and the accident on stage Michael endured alot of physical and emotional pain not only from those things but from so called fans who turned their backs on him. He ended up resorting to medication to cope. I believe he died of too much medication to deal with a broken heart. The love he sought on this planet was not to be, because the hatemongers made sure he was brought down and destroyed. Yet Michael in his forgiving loving way tried to go on but it was too much for him. So thanks to Joe and the hate mungers we no longer have one of the most loving human beings there ever was. | |
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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/19/2009 8:17:17 AM | secial lady28 ^^^^^
Thank You for this beautiful post! That's all I would have to say. All I am going to add, is that despite of injustice, lies and hatred in this world, he was the most forgiving person, and just went on loving. Yesterday, I lave learnt from one of his interviews, that he was so mishandled by the police, beaten up, and when they tied this hands with handcuffs, they put his arms in impossible position, and as a result dislocated his shoulders, he endured pain since then, and since then he was not able to move his shoulders as freely as he was before, and not able to sleep at night because of pain. I haven't mention the humiliation he went through being locked up in the washroom for 45 minutes, and ridiculed if 'the smell was good enough for him', and all he said 'it's OK, it's OK' in most humble voice. In the unreleased song yet; 'take me to a place with no name', he sings about his desire of being taken to a place without no pain. Rest in peace Michael, will love you forever, just too sad I have not learnt the whole truth about you when you were among us. ~La Gioconda
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| Goodbye Michael Jackson..................
Posted: 7/19/2009 10:27:39 AM | | ty la Gioconda, its not easy voicing ones opinion in the forums as they tend to gang up on people who are caring loving peaceful people like Michael. Maybe now that he is in heaven like Gods son, who was ridiculed because he was different and beaten,made fun of,loved everyone he will have peace at last. Jesus endured alot of critisizum for hanging out with the so called low life people, and had the nerve to say bring the children onto me and talked to women. God forbid he should love them as he is trying to teach all mankind to love everyone. For that he was crucified. Whether people believe in him or not he sent the one and only message that all man kind needs to understand. Without love you are nothing. | |
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