I wonder why his own sister called him a pedophile.

he must be innocent then. because there wasn't enough evidence on one trial..

I'm off to dangle my kid over the balcony :)

For a shifty grand I will become the biggest MJ advocate there is!

By the summer of 1993, it was revealed that Jackson allowed children to sleep over at his Neverland ranch, a fact which came under much media scrutiny when child sexual abuse allegations were brought against him.[13][14] Jackson became firm friends with Jordan Chandler and his family after a meeting in May 1992, as he was a fan of Jackson.[9] Their friendship became so close that the National Enquirer ran a featured story with the title "Michael's New Adopted Family", which implied that Jackson had "stolen" the family from the father, Evan Chandler, who was admittedly jealous over Jackson's influence on his son.[15] Communications between Jackson and the father broke down further when Chandler asked, "Look, are you having sex with my son?". The father's opinion of Jackson then changed, to the extent that he invited Jackson to build an extra wing on their home so that the singer could move in with them permanently.[15] Chandler's concerns about the close friendship returned, and he tried to prevent Jackson from seeing his son, using a prior custody agreement.[9]

On July 2, 1993, in a private telephone conversation, Chandler was tape recorded as saying,

There was no reason why he [Jackson] had to stop calling me...I picked the nastiest son of a **** I could find [Evan Chandler's lawyer, Barry Rothman], all he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's smart and he's hungry for publicity. Everything's going to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. I've given him full authority to do that. Jackson is an evil guy, he is worse than that and I have the evidence to prove it. If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over.[2]
—(Evan Chandler)

In the same conversation, when asked how this would affect his son, Chandler replied, "That's irrelevant to me...It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together...This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief...He will not sell one more record".[2] The recorded conversation was a critical aspect of Jackson's defense against the upcoming allegation made against him. He and his supporters argue that he was the victim of a jealous father whose only goal was to extort money from the singer.[2]

In early August, Chandler, a registered dentist, extracted a tooth from his son's mouth, and was later forced to admit that he used the controversial sedative sodium Amytal during the procedure.[1] Under the influence of the drug, Jordan alleged that Jackson had touched his penis. Experts state that the drug sodium Amytal "makes patients extremely susceptible to suggestions".[1] Dr Lewis Strong, a Los Angeles psychiatrist stated, "You can't trust it, I never use it in my practice. I have found it to be unreliable. It's certainly not a truth serum".[1] Dr Kenneth Gottlieb, a San Francisco psychiatrist who has used the drug, stated, "I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person's unconscious unless there was no other drug available, and I would not use it without resuscitation equipment in case of allergic reaction".[1]

Over the next couple of months both parties engaged in unsuccessful (out of court) financial negotiations, with Chandler and his legal team asking for $20 million, or the issue would be taken to criminal court.[3] Jackson declined the offer, saying, "No way in Hell". A few weeks later, Jackson's legal team gave a counter-offer to the value of $1 million, which was declined by Chandler.[3] The father then lowered his request to $15 million; Jackson rejected this and lowered his original counter-offer to $350,000. With both sides unable to reach an agreement, Chandler decided he would take it to court.[3] Chandler then took his son to see a psychiatrist called Dr. Mathis Abrams, and during the three-hour session with the doctor, Jordan Chandler said he had had a sexual relationship with Jackson that included incidents of kissing, masturbation and oral sex that went on for months. He then repeated these allegations to police and gave a detailed description of what he alleged was Jackson's penis.[3][4]

On August 18, the Los Angeles Police Department's Sexually Exploited Child Unit began a criminal investigation into Jackson. The same day, Jordan Chandler's mother told police that she did not believe Jackson had molested her son.[4][13][14][16] On August 21, a search warrant was issued, allowing police to search Jackson's Neverland Ranch. Police questioned 30 children who were friends of Jackson, with all denying that the singer was a child molester.[13][16] A police officer involved in the investigation told The Los Angeles Times that no evidence (medical, photographic or video) could be found that would support a criminal filing.[16] The same day the allegations were made public, Jackson began the second leg of his Dangerous World Tour in Bangkok. On August 24, Jackson's investigator held a press conference accusing Chandler of trying to extort $20 million from the singer, although the investigator failed to mention that Jackson had given several counter-offers.[13][16] On August 25, Jackson's young friends Brett Barnes and Wade Robson held a press conference where they stated that they had slept in the same bed as Jackson, but nothing sexual in nature had occurred.[8][17] Jackson's family soon held a press conference of their own to show support, saying it was their "unequivocal belief that Michael has been made a victim of a cruel and obvious attempt to take advantage of his fame and wealth."[8][17] The police then began an investigation into Evan Chandlers's prior actions and found that he was $68,400 behind in his child support payments, even though he was well-paid as a dentist.[9] On November 8, police searched the Jackson family home, Hayvenhurst, but found nothing of importance to add to their investigation.[6][13]

In the winter of 1993, despite not seeing or speaking to Jackson for a number of years, La Toya Jackson claimed that her brother was a pedophile and that she had proof, which she was prepared to disclose for a fee of $500,000. A bidding war between US and UK tabloids began, but fell through when they realised that her revelations were not what she had claimed them to be.[5] Then in Israel, she stated, "I cannot and will not be a silent collaborator in his crimes against young children... Forget about the superstar, forget about the icon. If he was any other 35-year-old man who was sleeping with little boys, you wouldn't like this guy".[5] She also claimed that checks had been made out to several boys and that Jackson's own physical abuse as a child had turned him into an abuser.[5][18] She would later claim that Jackson had tried to kidnap and kill her.[18] The rest of the family disowned her, and in subsequent years she would insist that she was forced to make the allegations by her then husband for financial gain.[5] Just prior to making the allegations, her husband was arrested for striking her in the face, arms and legs with a chair.[19] By the turn of the millennium Jackson had forgiven his sister.[5].

Parents who playfully throw the kids up in the air under the ceiling fan.

And cos the chance to argue with you and Caves is priceless.

but really your sticking up for him because you love his music

Ever had someone who is angry at you about something else, say something about you that isn't true, but cos they know it will really get you in the balls? Don't ever think brothers and sisters can't get as dirty as exes when it comes to emotionally based in-fighting. Ask those legal guys who deal with deceased estates etc.

That's the general idea of the legal system. You want a best of three system until you get the outcome you think is right based on all the evidence you've investigated?

Whereas I am sticking up for him for free cos it's what I believe. And cos the chance to argue with you and Caves is priceless.

when was the last time anyone here was called a pedophile when it wasn't true ?????

dont mean I aint half man half titainium. boiiiiiiiiink booooooooiiiiink < million dollar man sound

unless of course hanging blanket out of high places was their usual means of entertaining him

dont mean I aint half man half titainium. boiiiiiiiiink booooooooiiiiink

maybe he was wet??!!.

As for the man who passed away recently, if we judge him harshly, maybe it is the evil we see that "we" may possibly do if in his position, not whether Michael Jackson did it or not.

when was the last time anyone here was called a pedophile when it wasn't true ?????

fair enough, but I cant remember my sister or brother calling me a pedophile even at thier madest. black eye yes, fat lip yes, said things aint true yes.pedophile fark NO.

when was the last time anyone here was called a pedophile when it wasn't true ?????

david bowie's never actually been to outer-space neither has Major tom

I cant see that there is any similarity between playing with your child and forgetting you are standing under a fan and hanging your kid over a balcony.

I think its because life would be meaningless, if you cant do farm chores in white socks and a glittery glove........

or send them to any strangers place ... just because your kids were enamoured by a TV" rock star ?

what are you trying to legitimise here?...

I assume that the main reason people have a problem with him having kids in bed with him is because beds are where we most commonly have sex?

Its not just anyone doing this by the way, its not someone "you" might trust, this is an act of a man who has been accused of fiddling with kids, on more than a few occassions.

I am kinda freaked out that his talents have blinded people somewhat.

Interesting to see people who are normally all on the same 'side' now in opposing corners.

Never do they presume to pronounce innocence. The phrase "Innocent until proven guilty" is merely a point of procedure for the court that the onus of proof is on the prosecution. I for instance was once interviewed in relation to an alleged assault. Within a week I received a letter saying the matter would not proceed as there was not sufficient evidence against me to take the matter to court. (crap from an angry neighbour who I had a barney with)
This is part of the procedure a case goes through. In order to get to court there is a 'checklist' called the 'Points of Proof' for each offence. If the evidence on fails to cover any of the points of proof then the case will never see a court so as not to waste the courts time. To point out how difficult that process is, there are six Points of Proof for a simple theft like shoplifting and unless you have evidence covering all of them the brief will not be approved. Once you get to the court you then have to PROVE them all "beyond reasonable doubt". The defence then merely has to introduce "any doubt at all" to have a Magistrate dismiss the case.
So in summary, no evidence = no prosecution. Enough evidence to go to trial = prosecution. Having a clever Lawyer earning 50 times the prosecutor AND the judge and the ability to call 30 witnesses who are your friends and would say anything to help you. Well you go figure.

Its not just anyone doing this by the way, its not someone "you" might trust, this is an act of a man who has been accused of fiddling with kids, on more than a few occassions.

Yes, he is a man who has been accused of fiddling with kids, which does not make him a man who has fiddled with kids.

this is someone who thinks himself peter pan, someone who has coveted who he is.

Even if I agreed with you bunch of pseudo-parent child cuddling peter pan's on the "cuddling other folks kids to sleep issue", do you think its a good idea to let someone accused of molestation participate.

Child molestation is a very emotive topic, as well it should be. I actually think, as a topic, that it is far more blinkering than fascination with celebrity.

I do seem to remember that he was found innocent by jury......have we forgotten that part

he was a bloody good bloke look at all the good things he did