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 Sidewinder154

Joined: 5/19/2009
Msg: 26
Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 8:42:36 AM
OP - Not ALL women find male pattern baldness as "not sexy". Baldness as far as I'm concerned is up there with eye color, hair color, and all the other things that you can't do much about. It's all just part of the person. I'm not superficial in the slightest bit. I could care less if the man has a full head of hair, or if he's receding or has the caesar ring going on. Nor do I care if he's got some grey or if his hair is straight or curly or if his eyes are blue, green, brown, hazel or kaleidascope!

Not all women feel the way you do, OP>.. nor do all men. My SO has a receding hair line and has some grey. I think he looks just fine. I don't think it makes him any less sexy!

EDIT: Ok so you are looking for reasons why? Here's a few reasons that bald/thinning is better than a full head of hair.

1 - They will use MUCH less hair products (shampoo, conditioner, gel, etc) = a big cost savings!
2 - less trips to the barber = more cost savings
3 - no hair nests at the bottom of the shower or clogged drains
4 - less overall maintenance = more time for other things!
5 - not nearly as hot in the summer as those with thick heads of hair
Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 8:48:44 AM
Don't mind baldness, apparently it's a sign of being more virile.

I do however loathe comb-overs, long hair with bald bits on top, and wigs.
 .Marc

Joined: 2/11/2007
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 8:50:48 AM
Op,

Some women do like bald guys. It's a grab bag world out there.

I'm rather afraid of my hair thinning, but that's because I'm used to looking a certain way... and having control over it. For most of my adult life it's been long enough to pull back. (I did take a 4 year break because I was seeing someone that wanted to see it short, and then I was trying to get a job.) For me losing the hair would be change my entire appearance to the point where I feel like I don't have control over it. (Of course, you don't control you appearance... not really. But we like to think we can.)

Mine has started to thin a bit in the back, but so far you can't really tell if you're not me. We'll see how I take it when I finally have to cut it shorter. (I think I still have a few hundred thousand miles on it, but I hate bald guys that leave the bits that still have hair long. I refuse to be THAT guy.) I'll suppose I'll survive. Lord knows I've lived through worse.
 kayliecat

Joined: 12/8/2007
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 9:30:49 AM
First the disclaimer: One of the sexiest guys I know is bald on top. I LOVE rubbing the top of his fuzzy head. An dkissing it. And he keeps his hair trimmed short but not shaved off. It is really soft. I find him so sexy that now I am developing a "thing" for his look. So I like male pattern baldness. And yes, the fuzziness on top is awesome!

BUT you asked why people don't like it? I'd say for the same reason people don't like to go grey or don't like grey in women's hair as much.

It is associated iwth aging, pure and simple. I think the women who like it tend to like older men (older being, what, maybe 35 an dup??) And the older the man, the more it is accepted to be bald. Same with grey.

Who would be happy going grey at 25? not many of us. Who would want to date someone who has grey hair at 25? Very few. Why, because it looks "old". But if you were dating a 60 year old, the grey would be fine, no biggee...unless you were one of those people chasing "youth". (not that 60 is old anymore but still...it is an age where grey is more accepted).

It's all in where you are coming from and what you expect. When I was 25 I prolly would not have been attracted to a balding man. But at 36, I think it's sexy as hell.

I have grey in my hair and I tolerate it. But when it starts to take over my very thick dark hair, yes, I will color it. Until I am old enough to accept it and ready to "age gracefully"... So to me, greying and balding fall in the same category.

lastly, it's not just a"aging", its part of our instinctive need to fight aging. To fight feeling or looking "old". To fight against death. To fight against our mortality.

At some point, which comes earlier for some people than tohers, we accept our age and accept where we are in life. But until that time, outward signs of aging are hard to accept...like balding, greying, wrinkles, etc.

That's my take on it. Is that helpful?
 BeautifulDisaster87

Joined: 6/20/2009
Msg: 30
Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 9:39:20 AM
I've actually dated several men who were bald. A few shaved because they thought it was "ugly" of course. I told them I didn't mind. The first guy I dated who was bald kinda shocked me....it took me awhile to get used to it because I love hair...I love being able to run my fingers through it....but it's funny how you just get used to things. After that it never really got to me. Okay so he was bald, so what? And I tried to make them feel more attractive about it than they did. Sometimes they didn't shave their head because they found that I didn't care what they looked like (meaning that in a good way). Other times they still shaved because it was what they preferred. To me, it doesn't matter.
 abelian

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 10:06:33 AM

In American culture at least, male-pattern baldness is not looked on too highly.

To the best I can determine, male pattern baldness is only seen ss less attractive than a full head of hair and exploited to make money and in American culture, making money is highly valued. No surprise there. To the best I can tell, I'm still valued for other things in spite of having that affliction.


You see the ads for hair growth, you see the celebrities getting those fancy toupees, you see the ads in magazines where men ALWAYS have a full head of hair.

That also seems obvious. All else being equal, having a fullhead of hair make you more attractive. More attractive models sell more products. Selling more products makes more money. Money is what Amricans value, so again, it's not a real surprise that advertisers do whatever they can to sell products.

As far as dating goes, I'm sure that having thinning hair will be off putting to some women. There's nothing you can do about that short of spending thousands of dollars on hair grafts. But, there are lots of other things one can improve upon that women value before complaining that thinning hair is holding him back.
 .Marc

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 10:11:39 AM
Also, I'd like to point out that Connery isn't really known for "flying the flag." He's been bald since before he was James Bond, and he's only recently (in terms of how long he's been in the public eye) stopped wearing the toupee.
 miss_contemplative

Joined: 3/12/2008
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 11:06:11 AM
Baldness doesn't bother me unless he's got some Bozzo The Clown look going on in which case I recommend he shave it off, because it doesn't suit him.

But I'm good to go, bald or not bald.
 Pitch Blease

Joined: 3/4/2009
Msg: 34
Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 11:15:23 AM
You wanna know why? It looks like what I refer to as "the toilet seat head". Just shave it off already. A full head that is bald is way more attractive then trying to grow hair around the perimeter of the head.
 Call me Ginny

Joined: 12/28/2008
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 11:40:46 AM
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It quite simply would not be possible for me to disagree more.


That also seems obvious. All else being equal, having a fullhead of hair make you more attractive. More attractive models sell more products. Selling more products makes more money. Money is what Amricans value, so again, it's not a real surprise that advertisers do whatever they can to sell products.


The first thing a successful ad has to do is Create the Market. Then they offer a product to fill it. They feed on insecurity.

Thinning, Bald; Who cares? As long as a man doesn't try to hide it or show he's worried about it, it just doesn't matter.

It's just like all those ED and graying hair ads. Same thing.

Now the newest snake oil sales ad is for LT. Give me a break. Another way to make money off of gullible insecure men.

Pfft. Men should stop watching TV ads. Grow a pair and be happy with who you are.


You're kidding, right? You're going to tell me that there is no stigma for men with male-pattern baldness? You're going to say that if you were given a choice -- a full head of hair or male-pattern baldness -- that you'd choose the latter?

Why don't I believe that?


It's only a stigma if you let it be.


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 LakeCountyGal

Joined: 9/4/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2009 3:03:38 PM
Um, huh? I see plenty of balding men walking around with women on their arms....so clearly, its not a problem for most of us. I'd dated balding, or completely bald men myself.
 Bonspeed

Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 37
Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 3:11:47 PM
Sting seems to do alright with it.

Well ok.. he's rich and famous but I feel that... even if he weren't, women would still find the guy "attractive".

http://www.adelanwar.com/content/media/sting.jpg
 tss914

Joined: 9/16/2007
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 3:34:39 PM
It all goes back to basic animal traits. The stronger will surive. It's inherit in any species trait to mate with the so called better mate. Women with wider hips, biger breast. Men that are biger built. To help keep the species evelving. Is it right? Years ago, it mattered more. To produce a stronger baby to surive through the winter. I started balding years ago. I've excepted it. She'll like me for me. If she doesn't then I'll move on.
 Zebra Circle

Joined: 4/12/2009
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Posted: 6/27/2009 5:26:11 PM
Some great input, folks.

A few things, though:

-- I'm not buying the notion that women and men don't like male-pattern baldness because it is associated with old age. I think it has more to do with the LOOK. I could be wrong, but I think women just don't like the look of the hair on the sides with chrome dome on top. And with that notion (again, I could be wrong, but that's what I'm trying to find out), I'm wondering why a full head of hair is more attractive, given that more men out there are balding than not. As one women so eloquently phrased it, male-pattern baldness "looks like a toilet seat." Just for the record: I totally don't agree with that.

-- Just to stress the topic I posted, I put the phrase "by and large" in the heading because I know that NOT ALL women aren't bothered by male-pattern baldness. But I do feel that -- by and large -- most women (and men) don't like it. And that's what I'm trying to get at.
 stevelfun

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Posted: 6/27/2009 6:02:30 PM
I do not think that this is true.

Maybe when it is en vogue, maybe as opposed to a bad comb-over or such, but I don't think it is true.

Just read a profile not two minutes ago that read


And I can't be friends with Bald Men... LOL


So - yes - there are some out there that are 'okay' with it - however, the majority want a full head of hair.
 thinkboy

Joined: 5/17/2009
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 7:19:34 PM
Sidewinder: Love the list, lol!!
Started going bald at 21 here and just decided by 22 or so that it had to go, I wasn't gonna be one of the millions of dudes desperately trying to hold onto their hair.
I bic every couple of days and that's that. So easy and quick and no hassles!
Will some women find me unattractive because of that? Sure, who cares?! Ultimately it's about me and not whether I want a woman to notice me. I like the way I look, more now than in the past even!
Hey, some women like hefty guys and some like thin, some like tall and some like short(no really):P, I guess some like guys with hair and some don't! I know it's amazing!



You are right though, eastern cultures find it common and attractive in general but western culture is all ****ed up. Really, our culture wants so badly to get us all to hate ourselves so we can buy products to make ourselves look as close to the cultural "perfect" as possible. That's capitalism at work there. Someone wants to make money off you so they find ways to get the population as a whole to believe and "buy" into their image. Then you beat it into your children thanks to the media and the way people are in general and they "buy" into it too. Soon, generation after generation thinks that the created "perfect" image is some kind of normal that they can achieve if they just buy enough facial creams, skin products, make up and now surgery! Guess what, you've been punked!!:D
 revilors

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/27/2009 7:36:04 PM

Women aren't sexually attracted to male-pattern baldness, and men are MAJORLY depressed by their own male-pattern baldness.
So what is it about male-pattern baldness that men and women don't like?


Male pattern baldness is caused by excessive levels of testosterone. Testosterone being the hormone that makes a “man” a “man” and being in high levels makes a bald man…well…excessively manly.

Women know this and shy away from the bald man…not because he is not visually appealing to her…but because he is simply too much man.


You see a man with male-pattern baldness either do the comb-over or shave it off completely. And you hear on this forum how -- by and large -- women say that if a guy has male-pattern baldness to shave it off.


For the same reason a man with a large member wears baggie shorts at the beach….he doesn’t want to ruin every other guys day.

Don't know why I am always having to "state the obvious".

This is sexuality 101
 TenaciousJ.R.

Joined: 8/28/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2009 8:15:13 PM

Women aren't sexually attracted to male-pattern baldness...


And a lot of women don't like my long hair. Who cares? Confidence has a major role in what women find attractive. I've had women who detested my "long flowing mane of uber goodness", but they still wanted to date me.

Take a look at Jason Statham; a lot of women want him, and a lot men would like to walk in his shoes.

CONFIDENCE! It's the only word you need to know right now my hair follicle challenged friend!
 Lil Brooker

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Posted: 6/27/2009 10:36:51 PM
All it takes is one bald man to teach you how sexy they are. I now like bald men, not more than hairy ones and not less, but equally.

And PS - I am losing head hair and have discovered a shampoo that deters hair loss - Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating Shampoo.
 Call me Ginny

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Posted: 6/28/2009 4:58:07 AM
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Revilors; Yes! Exactly! This is so true. No wonder I'm so partial to them.

Male pattern baldness is caused by excessive levels of testosterone. Testosterone being the hormone that makes a “man” a “man” and being in high levels makes a bald man…well…excessively manly.


Not this woman.

Women know this and shy away from the bald man…not because he is not visually appealing to her…but because he is simply too much man.


Confidence is sexy. Any man who has it, doesn't concern himself with the preconceptions of others. He's usually too busy fighting them off!


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 butterflie_1207

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Posted: 6/28/2009 5:16:53 AM
I don't find Sean Connery in the least bit sexy--so much for that example.

I have no problem with bald or balding men. My ex husband was almost completely bald by the time he was 25, and my current boyfriend was pretty much bald when I met him a few years back. I generally don't find myself attracted to men with long hair, but that's not to say that there aren't exceptions to that rule.

It's just like everything else, some men don't like bigger women, some women don't like bald men. The list goes on and on. For me, it's more about the total package than any one physical or personality trait.
 Zebra Circle

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Posted: 6/28/2009 5:36:48 AM
The following observation and phrasing by you, thinkboy, is BRILLIANT! Seriously, I think you nailed it to a tee!


Really, our culture wants so badly to get us all to hate ourselves so we can buy products to make ourselves look as close to the cultural "perfect" as possible. That's capitalism at work there. Someone wants to make money off you so they find ways to get the population as a whole to believe and "buy" into their image. Then you beat it into your children thanks to the media and the way people are in general and they "buy" into it too. Soon, generation after generation thinks that the created "perfect" image is some kind of normal that they can achieve if they just buy enough facial creams, skin products, make up and now surgery! Guess what, you've been punked!!:D
 emruld

Joined: 4/4/2009
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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/28/2009 5:54:44 AM
I dont have a problem with it... some bald guys are sexy... its just how a man thinks of himself.... question for you tho..... what a bout a woman whos losing her hair due to the birth control pill.. or stress.. or hereditay reasons? (points to own bald spot) as soon as I'm up front about it with alot of men...... instant block! so... it goes both ways!
 Zebra Circle

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Posted: 6/28/2009 6:58:19 PM

question for you tho..... what a bout a woman whos losing her hair due to the birth control pill.. or stress.. or hereditay reasons? (points to own bald spot) as soon as I'm up front about it with alot of men...... instant block! so... it goes both ways!

Hhmm ... interesting question, emruld. I have seen so few women who are balding that I think I could count them on one hand and still have fingers left. I'm being serious; I'm not exaggerating.

Balding on women for the most part is not a typical occurence like it is for men. The few I've seen I haven't been attracted to, but I'm not sure if it had to do with the hair. One I remember was beastly overweight, and the other also had sideburns and bits of a mustache (yes, it was a woman). I honestly don't remember the others I might have seen.

As for you, I'd simply have to see a pic of you. I'm sure I would take each case on an individual basis.
 SmellOfPoop

Joined: 6/8/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2009 7:12:00 PM
Being a bald guy is better than being a guy with just a mustache. Sorry to you guys out there, but really, the lone mustache is not back in style.

And yes, I can make fun of the lone mustache guys because they can change their look in about 60 seconds.
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