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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 1:32:47 AM | Speak for yourself Zebra as i am NOT depressed just because i started losing my hair as nature intended. The ones that do a comb-over that flaps in the wind that is their prerogative and i cant, and wont, do anything about it but laugh inside my head about it.
I shave my head and i have been fortunate to have the right head shape to do this since this doe snot fit everybody. I pretty much shave all of my body with the exception of the middle part since i cycle hundreds of miles a week and need this for sanitation in case i spill it. I am alright with not having any hair anywhere, really. My body has been this way for nearly 25 years now so it is the ony thing i know. If somebody does not that like my head and lack of hair i would say: "Tough Shizzle!" | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 5:06:07 AM | | zebra.... lol.. i am gastly overweight... i wax off any facial hair i do have and... theres pics up on my profile (not trolling here! just saying) its actually becoming very common.. alot of the birth control pills.. cause hair loss esp the high androgen ones.. and women as young as 20 are losing their hair..... i googled it hehe... sad really... | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:50:59 AM | emruld: I do notice more women with bald patches or thin hair. I'd probably give them the same advice that women give men. Go bald. Most women that are attractive, still look just as attractive bald. I think they look good.
Baldness is mostly genetic and comes from both parents, not just the mother. If there's any baldness in your family, chances are it will affect you. Balding is actually a malfunction of the autoimmune system combined with hi levels of DHT which can be caused by eating a lot of meat and processed foods. The body sees the hair folicles as a disease, the DHT binds to the follicles and strangles them until they eventually won't grown hairs anymore. The best way to slow or prevent balding is eating a diet low in animal products, high in vegetables and consume adequate levels of zinc. Zinc is DHT's enemy, unfortunately high levels aren't really safe. Consuming BetaSitosterol in large quantities will help as it's a pretty good DHT blocker and a great natural way to lower cholesterol so if it doesn't help your hair at least it can keep your cholesterol levels in check. What cholesterol is to meat, Beta is to veggies so it binds to cholesterol negating it's effect. It's a very safe way to help fight cholesterol but can inhibit vitamin A so it's a good idea to make sure you're taking some vitamin A too or a multivitamin. DHT is also a big culprit in prostate enlargment and cancer. This connection was discovered when men taking prostate medication started growing back their hair. From this discovery, Rogaine was created. Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the genetics will probably override any treatments (except transplants) if they're strong enough but it doesn't hurt to try. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:46:21 AM | | well yes it is hereditary.. but my mom didnt start going till about 5 years ago.. i started about 3.. when i went on the pill... im not in the catagory that can go bald.. i wish!!! ill just get a wig.. but shave the head... lol just want i need.. more body parts to shave!!! lmao | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 8:47:04 AM | | emruld: DHT isn't usually the cause for women going bald. There are other reasons for men as well. Stress is a big one. Folicle transplants look pretty good. You could save your pennies and try that. That's my future plan. lol. I am really amazed at the amount of women I see with very thin hair or bald spots. It's not always older women either. It makes me wonder if it's a lot of the additives and hormones we ingest on a daily basis. You're not even safe eating veggies anymore. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 11:10:11 AM | emruld: It's thick by most people's standards but it's nothing compared to what it used to be. It's sneaky the way it creeps up on you. For men it's best to catch it early. Mine was triggered by some anxiety a few years ago but I'd be the only one who would ever notice at this point (I'm probably a little paranoid about it). Men get the short end of the stick with stress related hair loss. Women's hair will almost always grow back after hair loss due to stress but when stress triggers it in men, it just keeps going most times.
Transplants can be risky but I've seen some awesome results. I'm assuming it's best to get it done by an experienced doctor with good qualifications. It is a little scary though. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/29/2009 12:47:46 PM | | You are not your hair. I, for one don't even take that into account when it comes to men being attractive/sexy. I know quite a few men that have very little hair - and I think they are VERY sexy. All women don't fall into the same category, just like all men don't. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/4/2009 10:20:21 AM | [Lots of women dont find balding attractive]
sadly..it must be one of the worst things that can happen to a bloke..it makes a hell of a difference to ones looks..but boys..the only real thing we can do is shave it all off and pray that some bright fecker will one day invent a magic lotion that will make it all grow back.. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/4/2009 10:26:22 AM | i like it, myself. i've got a cup that i put over the crown of my head, then i use a marks-a-lot to draw a circle all around the cup. then i take a razor and shave off everything inside the black marks-a-lot (except when i use the red marks-a-lot, then it's a red circle).
i like the monk look. women that are trouble don't bother me at all -- saves all my time for the true love  | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/4/2009 11:27:34 AM | I havent read this whole thread..but I will say I LOVE bald men. I think its sexy. I like the men with balding heads (as long as the other parts of the hair is kept short).
You mentioned Sean Connery. Heck yeah! He's sexy but it isnt the hair thing. He was sexy when he had hair. What's sexy about Him is the way He carries himself. His confidence in himself is beyond sexy!
...and if by chance you got that goat tee thingy happening?..oh my! *swoons from the thought of it. Pair all that with cologne mixed with the Man's natural scent and I may just pass out! | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/4/2009 12:00:45 PM | Sienna Blue,
Thanks for responding, but you didn't really answer the question. The question is not what do you prefer, but why you think -- by and large -- men and women don't like male-pattern baldness.
And I suppose, really, the question is aimed at women. Men don't like it because they think the ladies don't like it, which is certainly proving true from this thread.
So do you have any ideas why leaving the male-pattern baldness alone is a no-no, but shaving it all off is okay?
Thanks. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/4/2009 12:10:11 PM |
I'm not buying the notion that women and men don't like male-pattern baldness because it is associated with old age. I think it has more to do with the LOOK. I could be wrong, but I think women just don't like the look of the hair on the sides with chrome dome on top.
Yes, but why is it that they don't like the look of it? Because it represents being on the decline. The same reason guys overall prefer women without wrinkles.
As for why people seem to prefer shaving it all off rather than doing anything else with it, that pretty much seems to come down to adaptability. Adaptability raises attraction value on a subconscious level because it indicates that if nature deals you something less than ideal, you'll adapt and move on. Combovers and toupees imply clinging to something that you have no control over and fighting a losing battle. It's like watching somebody play tug of war with a bulldozer.
In the wild, he who adapts to a problem and moves on lives to fight another day. He who struggles to fight it like a fish trying to swim upstream gets eaten. Same concept.
Really, our culture wants so badly to get us all to hate ourselves so we can buy products to make ourselves look as close to the cultural "perfect" as possible. That's capitalism at work there. Someone wants to make money off you so they find ways to get the population as a whole to believe and "buy" into their image. Then you beat it into your children thanks to the media and the way people are in general and they "buy" into it too. Soon, generation after generation thinks that the created "perfect" image is some kind of normal that they can achieve if they just buy enough facial creams, skin products, make up and now surgery! Guess what, you've been punked!!:D
The problem with this is that it's typical modern day conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there isn't some truth to it. But overall this is the same kind of logic that says people are shallow for not being able to look past someone's physical appearance and be attracted only to their personality. In other words, it makes sense to "nice guys" and overweight women because they are trying to approach the concept of attraction from a logical perspective, but there's a reason why it doesn't work. Because attraction isn't based on logic. It's not something you have control over. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/5/2009 5:00:36 AM |
Yes, but why is it that they don't like the look of it? Because it represents being on the decline. The same reason guys overall prefer women without wrinkles.
I like the thought you put into your replies, raphael adroit esquire, but I still don't agree. I also don't think your comparison rings true, either. There are many women in their 20s who have wrinkles, and I don't think most men find them any less attractive than women who have less wrinkles. There are many men in their 20s who have already developed the male-pattern baldness.
I don't think people are starting to say these men are in decline; I think they're just saying, "He's developing male-pattern baldness early." I still say the reason women (and thus, men) don't like the male-pattern baldness (i.e., hair on the sides, no hair on the chrome) is the look.
The problem with this is that it's typical modern day conspiracy theory.
When advertisers stop spending billions of dollars a year on advertising (I'm not exaggerating), then I'll say it's a conspiracy theory. But advertisers don't spend that amount of money for something that doesn't work. Advertising works! The person you quoted as describing how advertising operates is dead on the money. Advertisers first create the image we all need to buy into, then they sell us a product for it.
Seriously, think about it. Companies have entire marketing departments. Do you think they'd employ these people for something that didn't work? It's not a conspiracy theory.
Somehow, our culture got it beat into our heads that male-pattern baldness is unattractive, undesireable. I'm merely trying to find out why. And it's quite possible that advertisers and marketing teams are the culprite. | |
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| Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 7/5/2009 7:17:56 AM | I think that women who have thinning hair tend to cut it short to work with their issues. There is no covering bald unless you wig it.
I would just prefer to see a man with a shaved head than a balding head. Instead of fighting it, accept it and make it work for you. Bald is freakin beautiful!!! Scraps of hair isn't. (sorry) | |
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