| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:34:36 PM |
Stupid people shouldn't breed.
Unfortunatly, those are the ones who are doing the most of it.
guys: don't want to be 'trapped'? Look after your sperm.
Ladies: don't want to end up a single mother? Close your trap door.
Like another poster said, it's SO easy to NOT get pregnant these days. With all the different types of birth control and the easy access of it, there shouldn't be any "oops" moments. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:48:08 PM | Personally I can understand adoption if a person truly feels it is the best option for thier child. I could never do it after carrying a baby for 9 months and then holding it for the first time, I'd just use whatever resources were available to me until I could get back on my feet to take care of him/her.
Now abortion is something that I personally don't agree with. It is against my religious beleifs and I just don't think I could ever do it no matter the situation. It's a child, not a choice. If it's not a baby, you're not pregnant. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:54:06 PM |
Like another poster said, it's SO easy to NOT get pregnant these days. With all the different types of birth control and the easy access of it, there shouldn't be any "oops" moments.
I disagree. I was using birth control and using condoms with my kid's dad and still got pregnant. I know everything was used correctly and I still got pregnant. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 1:03:34 PM | I'm talking only in extreme circumstances!!!!!
Legally abortion should be done before the first trimester by registered doctors that know what they are doing. At that stage it's not even a child yet, it's just a fetus!
Say the parents have a std or some other horrible terminal disease?
Why can't people understand you need to do what's right for your child, not just yourself? | |
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astock
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Joined: 6/25/2009
Msg: 30 | |
| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 1:25:27 PM | | from the time the sperm meets the egg it is a child, no matter how you look at it. i'm sorry that your so jaded but thats just stupid | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 1:28:13 PM |
from the time the sperm meets the egg it is a child, no matter how you look at it. i'm sorry that your so jaded but thats just stupid
No, scientifically, when a sperm meets an egg, you have a zygote. Then it splits and becomes a fetus.
When it becomes a child is up for debate, but the common definition would be when it leaves the womb. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 1:43:27 PM |
I disagree. I was using birth control and using condoms with my kid's dad and still got pregnant. I know everything was used correctly and I still got pregnant.
I'm gonna say it was a freak of nature that you got pregnant using BOTH the methods absolutly correct, or I'm gonna call BS... I'm going for the latter. Sure, a condom might break, or you may have skipped a pill by accident... but all in all, if used correctly, especially both at the same time, no pregnancy should occur. In your case carterscutie, something had to happen (broken condom, not the right size condom, took the pill incerrectly, etc.) for you to get pregnant... if that's the case, it wasn't an "oops" moment, it was user error. | |
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astock
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Joined: 6/25/2009
Msg: 33 | |
| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 2:08:44 PM | perhaps but likewise those same people that say it's only a child when it leaves the womb are the ones killing the children inside their own. so why is it ok now? because not calling it a child doesn't mean they have to feel bad about what they are doing. hopefully all those that do realize their mistakes whilst they are burning in hell | |
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Posted: 6/28/2009 3:39:53 PM | Thank proverbial God that we live in a Consitutional Republic and not a Biblical Theocracy. With all due respect when we get beyond the mythology of social manipulation and exercise critical thinking we logically conclude zygotes are not children.
Its one thing to be against abortion on demand; abortion for convenience of any kind. When a pregnant woman's life is in danger if she were forced to carry her fetus to suggest she is not entitled to life is a misogynist kenning I can't believe your mother would approve of.
To suggest a woman not be able to put her child up for adoption isn't showing much love for the child now is it?
How reprehensible rhetoric of the most impositionist kind survives in this day and age is a testament to the fundamental failure of parenting that handicaps education, economy, etc. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 4:40:32 PM | The same reason some people yell, no abortion and no birth control!!! They are trying to force their beliefs (even if they don't follow them themselves) onto the rest of the world. The more issues some of these people have the more they want to control others, and what better than to back them into a corner and make everything they do/did wrong.
Nobody should have to get pregnant if they don't want to (yes sometimes birth control doesn't work but not anywhere nearly as often as people say, people lie), no child should be unwanted and no one should have to give a child up for adoption if they find abortion works better for them. No one should ever keep a child and then mistreat or abuse it, not ever. It's a personal, private choice that does not involve those who think they should get to rule the world.
Think about the meaning of those saying you made your bed....that an unwanted child should come into the world because you had sex, that you should be punished and that the child should be punished for your sins. What kind of person thinks that way? That's really sick. It's like the horror movies where people who have sex all get killed, they deserved it, why?, so that those who won't face their own demons can feel good about the downfall of others.
Is the killing of a fetus awful, yes I think that it is, but there are much much much worse things than never being born. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 4:42:43 PM |
Stupid people shouldn't breed.
Now there's an inflammatory statement. Who will be brave enough to apply that adjective to anyone wanting children, I wonder.
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 5:09:28 PM | | For all you posters out there - if you were aborted - from your Mother's womb as a fetus you would not be here right now in this moment on a Fourm site - think about it | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 5:41:49 PM |
For all you posters out there - if you were aborted - from your Mother's womb as a fetus you would not be here right now in this moment on a Fourm site - think about it
And in my opinion, I'm trying to figure out how that would necessarily be a bad thing?
Not that I have ill-will towards anyone in particular.
But oh well, what is done is done. No more post hoc, ergo propter hoc. | |
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astock
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Joined: 6/25/2009
Msg: 39 | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 6:09:24 PM | | Well to put it so eloquently if it was 'done' to you - you wouldn't be voicing your hoc, ergo propter hoc. - would you? .............. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 6:13:13 PM | | Thank you astock - at least we are on the same page - all these opinions whould NOT even have a voice if they were a product of abortion as they would be in a bucket to be disposed of- god knows where but as my younger Sister worked in a medical laboratory I know where some ended up in glass jars to be viewed/studied by students | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 6:19:41 PM |
Well to put it so eloquently if it was 'done' to you - you wouldn't be voicing your hoc, ergo propter hoc. - would you? ..............
Que sera sera. I'm sure there are some people who wish that I would've been aborted. I'm sure there are even people on PoF who had wished so.
But here is my question to you.
What is it about you specifically that makes your opinions, morals, values, whatever that much more superior that allows you to feel they should be forced upon someone else? In fact, I'll open it up to anyone who feels the same way. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 6:24:53 PM |
I suppose until an actual man has to decide what type of potential damage may come from having an abortion on their body, they will not understand the implications..
No damage is done to the female body during an average abortion. However, the same cannot be said of carrying a pregnancy to term and giving birth. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2009 6:27:47 PM | My morals or values are NOT superior - they are MY thoughts and beliefs and after trying to have a child of my own for many long years while others use Abortion as a form of 'birth control' is beyond belief - those 'unwanted' can be adopted into a loving childless family to live a life and even get to chat on a Forum site like yourself -you were given a chance in life - weren't you- otherwise you would not be sprouting off now and voicing YOUR opinions -as I have the right to voice mine  | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 7:28:09 PM |
ike another poster said, it's SO easy to NOT get pregnant these days. With all the different types of birth control and the easy access of it, there shouldn't be any "oops" moments. I disagree. I was using birth control and using condoms with my kid's dad and still got pregnant. I know everything was used correctly and I still got pregnant.
How did you get pregnant then? | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 7:45:37 PM |
My morals or values are NOT superior - they are MY thoughts and beliefs and after trying to have a child of my own for many long years while others use Abortion as a form of 'birth control' is beyond belief - those 'unwanted' can be adopted into a loving childless family
So those fetuses that were aborted should have been given up for adoption instead.... to join the already hundreds of thousands of babies and children who are now waiting to go to one of these "loveing childless families"? Take off your rose coloured glasses and join the rest of us.
Well to put it so eloquently if it was 'done' to you - you wouldn't be voicing your hoc, ergo propter hoc. - would you?
Moot point. If we were aborted, we wouldn't know it and therefore wouldn't know what we were missing in life. | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 7:58:34 PM | If I had been aborted, just how in the world would that be an issue for me? Duh  | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 8:18:26 PM | In reading the comments posted thus far, I have become even more confused. I read one poster who believes that adoption is wrong, even though he states he is adopted himself. Many adoptive children have questions about their birthparents. It has been my experience that the children come to understand, accept, and become truly grateful for the good sense their birthparents used in releasing them for adoption.
Another post noted that there are more children available for adoption than there are parents willing to adopt. While that is true in general, it is unrelated to the issue raised here. There are sooo many parents literally waiting to be chosen for an infant, that they wait years, often going outside the country to find children.
Still, I have not heard any explanations for forcing someone to be a parent. Would you really want to be raised by someone who didn't want you? Or even by someone who wanted you but for any number of reasons was incapable of being a decent parent? | |
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| No abortion! No Adoption!
Posted: 6/28/2009 8:24:44 PM | | I can't understand that there are so many females that understand "no means no" but can't understand what "stop" means! | |
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