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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:02:03 AM | | You're right, BP, I totally agree with you that in the beginning she very well could've been burning fat and building lean mass, literally pound-for-pound. I've seen it a hundred times where those who are basically sedentary will melt off pounds and tone-up quickly at first ... what I more meant was, if the case were that she had lost weight in the beginning but now was not, it's that she was probably simply at a plateau with her fat loss, and not still steadily gaining so much muscle that the lean mass would be causing her stall on the scale. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:21:01 AM | Hi Tina
Pound for pound burning fat and gaining muscle mass, equally in weight , is highly unlikely. Fat is much easier to lose than muscle mass is to build.
The upwards gain of lean muscle mass in a woman is about 2 - 2 1/2 pounds a month.
Thats on the high end.
Most newbies can lose 3 times more fat in a month than they could ever build in lean mass. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:33:55 AM | Correct, I agree ... but it IS possible for a pound-for-pound exchange in the beginning of a routine (not speaking in terms of time-for-time) ... for example, it took her 3 weeks to lose 3 pounds, and in the 6 weeks she's now still only lost 3 pounds ... it *could* be that in those 6 weeks (not in the 3 weeks) she has gained about 3 pounds of lean mass and now has stopped weight loss and lean gains b/c of the plateau.
The thing here, is the OP said she's only been dieting ... not working out, so it makes sense that it's a simple plateau and has nothing to do with muscle gains. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 9:14:59 AM |
You're right, BP, I totally agree with you that in the beginning she very well could've been burning fat and building lean mass, literally pound-for-pound. I've seen it a hundred times where those who are basically sedentary will melt off pounds and tone-up quickly at first ... what I more meant was, if the case were that she had lost weight in the beginning but now was not, it's that she was probably simply at a plateau with her fat loss, and not still steadily gaining so much muscle that the lean mass would be causing her stall on the scale.
Agreed. Alot of trainers unfortunately mislead their clients with the rationale that the client is building muscle at the same rate as their fat loss to cover up the plateau the client is in. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 9:19:37 AM | | I just don't get why people get so focus on lbs lost. I mean dang I measure it in other activities. I know this will sound corny, but it used to take me 2 hours to mow my lawn now it takes about an hour. I can do sports now whereas I used to not be able to. I can do more exercising than I used to. My sizes went down 6 so far. I don't get how everyone gets so wrapped around a number. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 9:33:01 AM |
I just don't get why people get so focus on lbs lost. I mean dang I measure it in other activities. I know this will sound corny, but it used to take me 2 hours to mow my lawn now it takes about an hour. I can do sports now whereas I used to not be able to. I can do more exercising than I used to. My sizes went down 6 so far. I don't get how everyone gets so wrapped around a number.
Well, like anything else it marks progress which does foster more motivation. It especially applies moreso to those who are obese or have much more to lose and visually may be initially more difficult to see a difference. It also applies to those relying only in diet to lose weight and can't really compare improvements in performance.
Congrats, by the way.
Personally when cutting, I try to stay away from a scale because it plays with my own head too much. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 9:41:51 AM |
^ +1 to that. When you get below around 12% or so, the scale is worthless in my opinion.
If my weight is the same.... "OMG, I'm not losing weight fast enough! Time to up my cardio."
If my weight is lower..."OMG, I must be losing muscle as well. Time to up my calories."
If my weight is higher... "There's no way I can have put on muscle. It must be fat. Time to starve myself."
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 9:57:47 AM | Yes, but try as I may I STILL end up standing on the blasted thing at least once a day to see how I am doing. Recently I started doing 30m cardio in the morning on the stairmaster to jump my metabolism for the day in addition to my weight training and cardio at night.
SmileatJen
I am slightly OCD. That's why. There is no scientific of physiological reason for it. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 10:03:58 AM | Totally part of OCD crew here.
But proud to say, its been 3 weeks since I stepped on the scale. But headgames are still going on constantly...now its "I think I have to up my carbs, I look too flat. " Or else its "I have to cut my carbs... I think I've overspilled." | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 10:15:37 AM | | My main thing is now the tape measure. My waistline fluctuates depending on the state of me eating/drinking something/being full or empty and I then feel the need to up cardio or whatnot. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 10:21:29 AM | | Yeah my friends bought me a pink measuring tape since pink is my favorite color. It works wonders. Actually measured today and lost so many inches its so exciting! | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 10:41:45 AM | GOOD JOB JEN!
Ironically, my measuring tape is blue, and says "Made In Germany", and since I am German, it holds a special place in my heart as it came from Germany with my Grandma when she moved here, or was given as a gift by relatives there, or something. Either way it holds great sentimental value. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 10:45:37 AM | Emmax31 do yourself the biggest favour and put the scales away... if you can't stop yourself just taking a little glimpse then get rid of them altogether.
I haven't stepped on my scales since starting out in the gym 8 years ago prefering to use a tape measure as and when I want a comparison and going by how my clothes fit. In the last 8 years I have only been weighed on scales maybe 3 times and those were in the gym.... the last two were at the start and finish of a particular training programme and that was for a full body reading to get the % bodyfat loss and muscle gain.
Ordinary weighing scales will only depress and de-motivate! | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 1:01:35 PM | I suppose that I could get a tape ....I have been using the same pair of dress pants for several weeks as a judge. And knew I hit a plateau and changed my cardio routine...started off as REALLY NOT FITTING and now just a little tight....
Before that, I was taking pictures...I went too long last fall doing the same routine and should have made changes quicker so doing some kind of measurement is a must... | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:31:13 PM | | All I know is my weight pretty much stays the same, but I lose inches. I also live a low carb life, and I do train hard now (now that I have the right direction). Ever since I changed my eating style, is when I notice the changes. I am big by nature, so I really need to be careful. I had one of those body fat tests done and it came back 20%. I was told to just keep doing what I am doing, then tweak my diet and trinaing when I hit a plateau. All of it can be so confusing...and frustrating...lol And with all of us being built so different. I do put muscle on pretty easy, compared to some people. That is why I had to make sure I got the right direction and help. And I still have a ways to go. I cannot tell any of you how much better I feel, and how much my life has changed since I have decided to pursue this whole fitness thing and stick to it. Not that I was horrible before, but I just feel so much better now. Amazing, finding the right nutrition can really make the difference. And I am diciplined. I do not cheat. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/30/2009 1:08:49 AM | 20% is great for a girl!
Also, I really recommend hydrostatic weighing. It is the only method that I trust. Or, if you have access to a Bod-Pod, those are decent, but hydro is where it's at. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:32:12 AM | | JW good morning! :) I mainly use free weights and some of the machines in that area. I have found them to be working and I also get a lot of help from the guys there. I honestly do not know what Hydo is (? I can google it later). I just want to stick to what is working. lol Also, a lot of what has changed for my body is my eating style. I eat no sugars, no flour, nothing processed (as little as possible), basially 6 to 7 small portions of meat with veggies. Some supplements. I love free weights and feel I push myself much harder. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/30/2009 10:18:55 AM | | I was wondering how you determined that you are 20% bf? Hydrostatic weighing is the most accurate method, followed by the bod-pod, and in a distant 3rd, skin calipers, and then, all but worthless, electrical impedence. | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/30/2009 11:47:11 AM |
I was wondering how you determined that you are 20% bf?
Yes I have to add that 20% is below the desirable percentage bodyfat for a woman and to continue losing is not a good thing. I lost 7.5% in the 3 months I was on a specific training programme and reduced mine from 33.5% (top of the desirable range) to a more respectable 26% and I was at the top end of the range when my profile pic was taken and certainly wasn't 'fat' then! I am aiming for a further 3 to 4% loss to bring me to the base level of the desirable range.
My percentage was calculated on a body composition analyzer ... is that the same thing as hydrostatic weighing? | |
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| My body's changed but the weight has not??
Posted: 6/30/2009 2:01:18 PM | | I went to a bodybuilding nutritionist and they used calipers,some sort of "machine" (I honestly do not recall I do know it did have an H in it but Hydro is not ringing a bell but who knows..) I also had a lab work up done to make sure all of my other stuff was good...Cholesterol, Kidneys, all that fun stuff since I eat so much protein. They ran a number of tests on me ..it was about 75 bucks (cheaper than I expected). I do not look odd, I am just really, really "big" but it is all muscle. That is why I am trying to get it to look more "cut up". Between the gym and riding 6 to 8 horses up over jumps 5 days a week, I need to turn all the muscle into "good looking" muscle. They said it was 20.5% (just looked at the paperwork). Hell all this stuff is so confusing...lol | |
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