| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/12/2009 10:06:40 AM |
about 'endowed by their creator' to mean what it's supposed to mean
you couldn't be further from the truth ... in the 18th century ... there was no darwinism .... everyone believed in some god like creator and that is what they meant.
live with it. | |
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jbogie
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/12/2009 11:35:08 AM | | democracy is not a form of government. it's an ideal or concept. "we the people" did not create a democracy did we? we created a representative republic. a democracy as a government has never existed. never will. can't. | |
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/12/2009 1:10:10 PM | *sigh* ..... here we go again. I should know better by now.
democracy is not a form of government.
Describes how the government is selected, but now how it is organised.
it's an ideal or concept. "we the people" did not create a democracy did we?
Are your representatives selected by vote, by the citizens of your country? If the answer is yes, the you are a democracy.
we created a representative republic.
Yes, you did. But your representative republic is also a democracy. Representative Republic describes how your government is organized; Democracy describes how it is elected. Indeed, the very definition of Republic implies a democracy.
a democracy as a government has never existed. never will. can't.
Please explain to me why a democracy can't exist. As for never having existed, how do you describe Great Britain? Canada? Australia? India? Germany? France? A hundred other countries in the world today?
Democracies have existed somewhere in the world almost constantly since the ancient greek city-states. You live in one now (USA). I live in one (Canada).
Why is it that so many Americans keep insisting that they live in a republic and not a democracy, when you clearly live in both? Where does that idea come from? | |
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/22/2009 9:52:07 AM | a semi ambitious individual, with a bit of luck, can do quit well in most flawed democracies, don't you think?
I have come to accept that human "creations" are flawed.
theocratic, now there's a can of worms. | |
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/23/2009 5:43:54 PM | | Democracy is a good form of government if it is direct democracy..citizens initiative, referendum and recall. That give the citizens input into the process between elections, and even at election time, large contentious issues can be brought to the voters for a decision. That is a wonderful idea. Switzerland and quite a few states in the USA have that form of democracy. If your representative is corrupt, the voters can fire him between elections, or roll back their excessive wage increases, or vote out taxes etc etc. This gives the voters participation in the system, instead of leaving it all up to the representatives, to follow his/her personal agenda. | |
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/23/2009 6:14:35 PM |
We created a representative republic.
Not quite, we created a Federation out of a failed Confederation.
Republic is as much an idea or concept as democracy is. The concept of republic is representative by nature, so a "representative republic" in pretty nonsensical.
In purest form in a democracy everybody votes on everything, every law, measure, agenda that effects the group in whole - doesn't work because you need some system inorder to set the proposed laws, measures, and agendas before the public to vote on.
A republic is a more structured form of democracy. The public elects representatives to be a voice for them. Just like pure democracy there still needs some system to set forth protocal for the republic to vote.
A Federation is by degrees different than a confederation in that power is more centralized. And we refer to the federal government as such because it is a federation. | |
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| Is Democracy the best form of government?
Posted: 7/23/2009 6:18:14 PM | Democracy alone is not the best form of government. It has to involve other forms to provide the checks and balances required for success.
I think checks and balances are more important than the ideal because you will only get the ideal for a short period of time without that system holding the frame work together. Without the framework, corruption of any governmental system is bound to happen. | |
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