| UFOS and ET
Posted: 6/30/2009 9:06:49 PM | If you're briefed on how the lights on a helicopter look and how a commercial jetliner look, you're able to tell the difference.
Plus the Jets that come in are decreasing speed due to the fact they are arriving and not departing.
Well, my usual observing site where I take my telescope is actually in the flightpath of Canada's busiest airport, plus we have three regional airports and countless private airfields so, basically, yeah, I'm familiar with what a plane looks like coming into land.
Add the fact that I have been looking at the sky longer than you've been alive. When you were taking this training, did they cover the most basic of investigative procedures: eliminate the most likely suspects first? If not, you might want to go back for a refresher. As has been stated here before...if you hear hoofbeats, think horses. Not zebras.
So, let's look at your account. You saw a bright light in the sky that appeared motionless. It then appeared to suddenly move in a different direction and "split" into two objects. Or, you saw a plane coming at you with its landing lights on from a large distance away, it then turned so you could see it's running lights and then it turned again so it appeared to "disappear." I see that all the time.
It's called an approach and landing. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 6/30/2009 9:17:42 PM | | i've never seen one but i do believe they exist. so many people have seen them and they've been documented which is why i'm thinking they do exist. i love watching that shit on the history channel, etc. i find it very fascinating and interesting. i was a huge fan of the X-Files. the truth is out there. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 6/30/2009 10:01:25 PM | Listen buddy... You obviously dont comprehend what I wrote.
I'm not trying to get into a "who has the biggest peener".
This was supposed to be a free thinking, open discussion for people to feel comfortable talking about encounters.
I was watching the sky from the parking lot.
I could CLEARLY see the "Approaching Jet Liners as they were arriving at PIT to land".
I was taught the conventional commercial jet light colors and positon. Red, Green, White in the rear often strobing as they land.
The object I saw was IN FRONT of these Jet liners that were only a few hundred feet off the ground. So I could use the Jet Liners as a contrast to what I witness.
It gave me a good depth of aperture.
I saw a large amber colored sphere staying stationary in the sky for close to 15 minutes.
15 MINUTES in one spot in the sky.... ONLY A AMBER color radiating from this orb like object.... It then began to move rapidly across the eastern sky before shape shifting into two smaller objects turning into a brilliant green color and then disappearing altogether.
Multiple people witnessed the same object. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 6/30/2009 10:22:14 PM |
Multiple people witnessed the same object.
Do you have any links to evidence of other people seeing the same thing or do we have to take your word as 'an expert or professional'?
 | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/1/2009 6:26:14 AM |
I saw one outside my bedroom window when I was around 8. I described to anyone interested then and over the years. Then a few a years ago I was in a used book store and picked up a book called "the hollow earth" (the paper back edition) and there on the inside of the covers were old black and white photes of the "ufo" I saw, and the lable read something like - taken over New York and New Jersey in 1963. I was in Jersey. I have them posted on my myspace page if anyone is interested. I would like to see those pictures. Sounds interesting. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/1/2009 6:35:32 AM | carterscutie,
If you send me an email i will send you the link, I cant email you first becasue of your age limits.
Soisaid | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/1/2009 7:49:52 AM |
This was supposed to be a free thinking, open discussion for people to feel comfortable talking about encounters.
Oh, I comprehend what you wrote. Clearly, however, you aren't comprehending what I'm writing. It's called being skeptical. Someone who claims to be a "certified investigator" surely has been introduced to the importance of approaching a subject with a skeptical eye...that there are more prosaic explanations to be eliminated before going to the more fantastical.
And I'm freely thinking and openly discussing an alternative explanation other than alien space buddies. Or do the rules of your thread only apply to those who agree with you? And how about the fact that I have considerably many more years looking skyward under my belt than you might mean more experience to discern the differences between what might be natural and what might be artificial? Or do you think that I'm simply "boasting?"
So what are you saying? An object in the sky near an airport and it's got to be...what? What is your conclusion? Have you taken all the variables into account? Wow me with your acumen. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/1/2009 9:40:59 AM | | I know the yearly air show in Mexico city usually has a visit from UFO's...and thousands photograph and video them. It happens almost every year...guess they want to see what we have out there or are curious as to just WTH we are doing flying all these aircraft around for sightseers! | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/1/2009 11:55:57 AM | When you have mass sightings, I think that falls under the second category I listed. That would be a natural cosmic event or an atmospheric event in the ionosphere that is misinterpreted by the observers. There is plenty we do not understand about our universe.
The reason I don't attribute those events to extraterrestrials is that there is no logic in just having their ship fly around for 15 minutes in random directions or just staying in a spot momentarily. If extraterrestrials were to travel all the way to our planet, they would do something.
Besides, SETI would pick up transmissions from all of these sightings and sadly SETI has gotten nothing. We can only hope eventually that they will make contact. A true extraterrestrial UFO sighting would coincide with SETI picking up radiation or energy.
As for reverse engineering, name one thing that could've been reverse engineered from aliens. I always hear the B-2 as an example, but that is just BS. The flying wing concept was developed by Jack Northrop in the 1930s. The only thing that made the B-2 impossible until the late 80s was the fact that the design was inherently unstable as it lacked a vertical stabilizer. It wasn't until that time that computers had advanced enough that they could perform the millions of calculations needed to adjust control surfaces to keep the aircraft level. When the computer fails, the plane crashes instantly. See Feb 2008's crash on Guam. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/2/2009 1:16:43 PM | | I've never seen a UFO or anything like that but I believe it's possible that they're out there. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/2/2009 2:09:54 PM |
I saw a large amber colored sphere staying stationary in the sky for close to 15 minutes.
Well I might as well add my two cents worth and join the nut bar ranks and relate my experiences, yes multiple experiences with the amber sphere(s). Five times over a period of about three years, I witnesses amber spheres. That was about twenty years ago here in Canada. I did not see another one (number six) until this spring when I was in England with my fiancee'. She was a witness as well.
Four of the five times I saw them I was with someone. I had assumed up to this point that the amber spheres that I had seen where weather balloons illuminated by the setting sun that was already below the horizon. The one that I witnessed while I was alone was the most dramatic, up close, and almost personal.
I was driving home at the end of a shift. It was just after midnight on a hot mid August evening. I live out in the country and the terrain slowly climbs in elevation for several miles. About five miles from town I was about to the top of the climb when I noticed in the distance, a light pacing my car to my left. I rolled down my window and looked over the top of my glasses to make sure it was not a reflection.
It was quite distant when I first noticed it but closed in very quickly. I sped up and it kept pace with me. I could actually clearly see the outline of an object. Without a point of reference I could not say how big it was but it was not small. It stayed within 200 to 300 yards of me and low to the ground about the same distance. It followed me around turns and over hills. At midnight I knew that it was no weather balloon.
I drove right past my home and further into the country side. I slowed down, it slowed down. I hit just over ninety on a straight and it was right there. This went on for about five or six miles past my house when I stopped and got out of my car. I was hoping that someone would come along and see what I was seeing. As I stopped the car I was thinking to myself that it might have been someone in a helicopter (night surveillance looking for marijuana crops) having some fun with me. I didn't know what to think really.
When I stopped it stopped and I stood there in the middle of the road with it hovering again about 200 yards away. Except for the sounds of peepers and frogs there was not a sound. Then it started to swing back and forth in a pendulous arch. The yellow was solid and did not appear to be gaseous. It glowed but not like a light bulb. Don't know quite how to explain it as I have never seen anything like it that up close.
I stood the for twenty minutes and all of a sudden my fear and wonderment just disappeared. I went from hair standing on the back of my neck to dead calm in an instant. I simply turned, got in my car, and went home. It stayed where I left it and it did not follow.
I have told this story to several people and I am not ashamed or embarrassed to tell it. It happened to me and that's all I know. I am not claiming it was a space ship or that I was harassed by aliens. I simply do not know what it was.
I have read, in the meantime, stories of allied pilots who witnessed objects similarly described. This was during WWII in the South Pacific and they called them Foo Fighters because they thought they were secret Japanese planes. Reports of this type of phenomenon are not new.
So kinkyromeo, if you say you saw an amber sphere in the presentation you described, join the club, I saw them too. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/2/2009 4:26:54 PM | | Sorry! Meant to say Matthew Monstar not kinkyromeo :-) | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/3/2009 11:43:59 PM | i believe in UFOs
i can't imagine that we are the only "intelligent" (and i use that term loosely), life in the universe
never seen one though~
i figure, if there are advanced civilizations, advanced enough to travel through space -
why the heck would they waste their time visiting earth?
i think earthlings have totally screwed up the planet- what with war, pollution, greed, man's inhumanity to man...
not to mention, they would be intelligent enough to know that we would destroy them given the chance ... | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/4/2009 1:54:06 AM | | About the various aircraft it's quite possible. However in a broader state to be the only life in the galaxy seems utter nonsense. Perhaps we are alone in our solar system, but there is so much more out there and to be the only evolved life? | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:23:49 AM | Exactly,If you lived 2009yrs ago,You would call it a Chariot,UFO or Spaceship was not in the Vocabulary.
Greada Treaty
and if UFO's and ET's Didnt exist,why make a Law forbidding contact? (ET Exposure Law).
Read Behold A Pale Horse,It exposes alot. Hell Bill C was even killed for writing it. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:26:02 AM | | Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations-If They Don't Exist, Why does this Law Exist? | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:08:15 AM |
Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations-If They Don't Exist, Why does this Law Exist?
Here is a reasonable answer:
http://www.snopes.com/legal/et.asp | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:58:18 PM | | Here is my big question. If we are being visited by extraterrestrial craft regularly, then why hasn't SETI picked anything up? During these mass UFO sightings (which I guarantee are natural cosmic events) SETI would pick up something in conjunction with them if they really were spacecraft flying through our atmosphere. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/6/2009 7:24:53 PM | I never have, but I do think they exist
how many? where? when? I dont know. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/6/2009 9:34:24 PM | | Yep,I've seen UFOS before,the most recent sighting was 4 years ago.There were 2 of them,they were shaped as boomerangs,all white,and very bright-very beautiful!It was the first positive experience I had with UFOS. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/11/2009 8:05:30 AM | Of course the Gov wants you to believe they don't exist,If there was disclosure,all control would be lost. All we ever recieve are the exoteric interpretations of the Esoteric Knowledge.
Ask Native Americans on The US reservations if they exist,What about the 6million people missing over the past 6yrs without a trace?
Dulce,New Mexico.
The more absurd something sounds,The more likely it exists,You have to learn how to think like they do. And to label people conspiracy theorists is the perfect cover for a mountain of lies. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/11/2009 8:38:38 AM | Actually gobears, SETI is searching simply for the leaked radio transmissions (or even directed transmissions) by a coexistant technological civilization.
However, the point is well made. If there was a species that was intent on making itself known, they'd be just as far ahead to simply beam a transmission at us that we would pick up without confusion.
Julianizm, that is the most non-sensical post I have ever read. The so many inconsistencies in simple logic that is promoted by the "pro alien visitors" crowd are the best arguments against 'em. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/11/2009 4:55:19 PM | | I thought radio transmission dissipate at 2 light years into the background radiation? | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/11/2009 5:10:46 PM |
The more absurd something sounds,The more likely it exists Jet-Puff Marshmallow Man is real and living in Moonbeam Ontario Canada. | |
|
| UFOS and ET
Posted: 7/11/2009 5:17:05 PM | I don't think we're the first, and I don't think we're the only ones. However, I do think that we're ONE of the first to have evolved to the point of at least wanting to contact someone else. Whoever discovers faster than light travel wins the race.
I take the Fermi Paradox and conclud that we are the first with the potential. | |
|
Home
login 
