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Posted: 7/11/2009 8:19:23 PM | I just don't know how much I can say. I can neither confirm nor deny- no, really.
I've seen some questionable things and I've heard first hand close encounter accounts from the kind of people who just have never lied about anything that I know of, and I've also participated in some fun crafts and experiments as a kid that unintentionally resulted in some well known "UFO" sightings and whenever I tell people about this I get one of three responses, the folks who don't think that could happen and I am mistaken, the folks who think I'm lying, and the folks who did the same thing 30 and 40 years ago and get the same responses when they tell about it. It's possible a lot of sightings back then were from this common experiment.
The lights over Phoenix were thought to be flares misplaced by training pilots as a plausible answer but the military couldn't confirm what pilots had made the error in location (I see this flare set up all the time where I am and it's not far from Phoenix and it is JUST and ONLY flares from training flights), but ultralight pilots admitted to the game and even EASILY recreated it on demand and proved that they were flying that night- UFO enthusiasts keep hiding that last bit of info. It was nothing special. We do see odd things out here, but they seem to be accepted by the military here and just because we on the ground at night don't know what they are, doesn't mean it's alien. Just drive south of Phoenix on the way to Mexico, and look up for a few hours straight, you'll see what I mean. all we know for sure is that they are too low and utterly immobile to be sattellites and the planes can't fly like they do if these were weather balloons in that quantity. Or maybe they can, but why so many? But the pilots ask us what those things are....
I went to a little UFO lecture and found both the Phoenix lights and my family's science experiment listed as confirmed evidence. This is unacceptable to me. You cannot gain credibility by grasping at hoaxes as proof. Less may be more, in this case. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2009 12:06:51 AM | I know if I had the capability to go anywhere in the cosmos that I cared to, I sure wouldn't waste the time or resources visiting little more than a bunch of arrogant, feuding, hairless monkeys. Some of the stuff I hear and see absolutely reminds me of the behavior of the apes in Planet of the Apes.
All the embarrassments of our world and species have been regularly beaming out into space for any truly intelligent life to receive and laugh their asses off at for almost 90 years continuously.
UFOs? Sure - Unidentified Flying Objects are abundant on Earth. Just because the viewer doesn' tknow what it is doesn't mean someone else doesn't. I'd still like to know how moon astronauts made it past the Van Allen radiation belt protected by little more than the equivalent of an aluminum beer can - going both ways. Most astronauts experience cataracts and other suspected radiation-related effects later in life.
Here's an example of the stupid stuff we do - anyone remember this? I vaguely recall being dragged out of bed late at night to see something man-made in the sky around this time that looked suspiciously just like the pictures shown. I was too young at the time to comprehend that it was a man-made nuclear test in space. At some point during the event, things turned tense and we were ushered back into the house. It might have been the EMP-related problems with the lights and the power stations. As if the house would protect us from any of those effects. I did keep stealing looks at the phenomenon in the sky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime | |
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Posted: 7/12/2009 8:38:16 AM | Its non sensical that William Cooper was killed for disclosing all he knew also. And James Forrestal,and every other person that attempted to expose cover ups and lies.
Honestly why on earth do you think JFK was killed? Shortly before his death he issued an ultimatum on disclosing the Alien presence along with The Secret Societies. And even gave a speech on the issues. If none of it is true,Why Are they all DEAD. Ask yourself that,don't look for any answer that has been covered up and filtered. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2009 1:45:30 PM |
I thought radio transmission dissipate at 2 light years into the background radiation?
Not being a radio expert, I'm not sure but I guess it would depend on the strength and purpose of the transmission.
Consider that a cellphone left on the moon would be the brightest radio object in the sky so I guess radio "brightness" is a relative term. However, we have sent out things like radar signals, etc, that will penetrate even further.
One think Seth Shostak and Jill Tarter have both pointed out is that our radio signature is decreasing as we go to more digital transmissions of data versus radio. Of course, that could change if we decide to leave our little blue planet and out into the solar system. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2009 9:58:20 PM | Maybe someday we will be seen as UFOs...If so, then this guy will probably have played a major part:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Chang-Diaz
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/whos_who_level2/diaz.html
After watching Nova Science Now, I learned that his plasma rocket engine will be test-fired on the ISS a couple of years from now. He may have figured out how to get a human-made craft to places faster, further and using far, far less fuel than is possible today.
Impressive...he shares the record for most flights into space. Maybe my new favorite astronaut. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 11:31:46 AM | | I saw a UFO then my dad told me thats not a ufo we make them, then a few years ago he told me he worked at Area 51. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 4:47:18 PM | I know someone who was in the military in the past, and worked closely in certain government areas. I can't say who or what area they worked in, but they told me that the government is hiding a lot from us about UFOs but they would not disclose information to me.
I think we are big boys and girls-wonder why they feel the need to hide things from us? | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 5:11:08 PM | Way too much evidence out there to show that UFOs DO exist. We (the public)
just don't know where they come from. Not the man-made ones or natural things that are rare or unusual...but the few that are left wehn we strip down all reported sightings and are left with a handful that we are totally clueless about.
Perhaps the gov't does know where they are from, what they want, or even are studying some themselves.
I figure they do have UFO's and alien bodies and are studying them.
Reverse engineering is a difficult task....with alien technology it might prove to be even more difficult. Strange alloys or perhaps metals we don't have, or just don't have much of it. Or perhaps a crystalline structure that we have difficulty growing in our gravity well. We perform experiments in space to see how different alloys form in weightlessness.
We are working on symbiotic machines now. We are trying to build machines with organic components.
A couple years ago I suggested to a friend to cool the computer with liquid cooling lines...and he said he'd fry his computer trying that. Of course, so high end puters now have that kind of cooling system available on them. (Home computers, not the gov't ones...they've had liquid cooling for a long time.)
Also....using crystals to store information. Think of a cube about the size of a sugar cube. How many "lines" of information could be stored using a simple binary code in it, on a molecular level? Quite a bit. Now....loaded with your favourite tunes...pop a "cube" into a small player....or into your puter...and there ya go. No disks. No magnetic worries. Simple reading by a laser on a cube "grown" that contains the information you want. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 5:51:38 PM | I think the very strangest thing that I ever saw were two charcoal black Blackhawks in the early 1980's over my neighborhood. They were probably up around 800-1000 feet, which is lower than normally allowed.
The strange thing about them is that they had absolutely no markings of any kind on them. They didn't have subdued markings as many military craft now have - they simply had nothing at all on them. They were just about the color of a B-1 or B-2 bomber. No reflections from them whatsoever.
Anyway, they thundered in like any normal choppers, which is what got my attention, but then slowed and began making big, lazy circles over the neighborhood. Strangely - the engine noises and normal rotor noises got very soft. There was only a dull hum and very faint, occasional wind noise from the rotors at that point. I got my neighbor Barry out of his apartment to come out and catch a glimpse of them. He just started to laugh - he was a big military history buff. His words, "So they DO exist!".
I watched in curiousity as they did maybe 6 slow circles like they were playing tag with each other. The doors were all closed. Then they headed off back toward the military bases and as they moved off, their normal engine and rotor noise resumed. Yes, Louise, there really ARE "black helicopters". And, they're sound-suppressed! A lot like you see in the movie Blue Thunder - but not quite as noiseless. You can still tell something's there - just not what a normal helicopter or other aircraft sounds like. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 12:01:39 PM | There are many dimensions. As long as we are in body and tied to this earth, this concept will continue to elude us. Inter-dimensional travel is possible. Many UFOs and their drivers come from other dimensions. Dimensions that are "invisible" to human eyes. The ability for them to exist at our dimensional level isn't always easy. If humans had the abilities to access visually other dimensions you would look up into the sky and it would be filled with off-world craft! They are there, always have been, just not visible to human perception and vibrational levels. I included a couple of interesting links you might enjoy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELKp3dVqzjA&feature=channel
http://cosmicalphabet.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/interdimensional-beings-being-interdimensional/ | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 12:33:26 PM | Whether or not there has actually ever been a UFO coverup, I do believe that were a UFO to land and it was not witnessed by enough people, a coverup and subsequent denial would likely occur simply to reduce public hysteria. Because let's face it, people can't handle that type of stuff. If Orson Welles had people jumping out of windows all those years ago just from a misinterpreted story, how do you think modern Americans would handle an actual UFO landing? Especially with the current state of perpetual fear everybody is living in involving all kinds of retarded political things.
I can see it now. A spacecraft lands, the door opens, and out steps a creature. Paranoid conservatives assume it must be socialism or gay marriage, and they reach for their guns. Paranoid liberals assume it must be guns or religion, and they reach for their lawyers. ET sees this, gets pissed off, turns around and leaves, and goes back home to tell his people there is no intelligent life on Earth. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 2:40:22 PM | | The Manhattan project employed 130,000 + people, and no one had any idea. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 3:16:27 PM |
There are many dimensions. As long as we are in body and tied to this earth, this concept will continue to elude us.
Actually, there are many people in body and tied to this Earth who have a very firm understanding of the multi-dimensional nature of reality. And there are many of us who know of the ways the human eye and brain can be fooled into thinking there is an alien aircraft where none actually exists.
The ability for them to exist at our dimensional level isn't always easy.
Oh really? And you know this how? Have you interviewed one? You've worked out the interdimensional mathematics?
There are times I wish posts like this were a joke. Too frequently, they're not. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 4:50:04 PM | i once had an alien encounter.
It was pretty cool | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 5:18:54 PM | op check the thread "lights in the sky"
we had a fun run of it for awhile
lots of data and wittness accounts
links , etc ~
along with , much scoffing and tin foil hat atire.
It's all in fun with a degree of seriousness by some , including myself.
It's about like trying to prove God exist.
We have things that are simple unexplanable unless you can wrap your mind around a 7 or 9 dimension universe.
We have pic's of daylight and night time sightings ~ that's not enough
We have slow fly overs ~ that's not enough.
We have rapid ( mach 14 to 21) fly overs ~ that's not enough. ~ one blink ~ and you missed it!
We had both singles and group formations ~ that's not enough.
We tracked them on radar at slower mach speeds ~ that's not enough.
Until they decide to park ~ visit and stay a while ~ they don't exist.
Shy bunch it seem and in one hell of a hurry at times.
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Posted: 10/4/2009 8:22:35 PM |
The Manhattan project employed 130,000 + people, and no one had any idea.
And then the sky got very, very bright and was visible for miles around.
And then there was Hiroshima and Nagasaki. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 6:01:34 AM | yea ~ and then ~ sighting became more numerous ~ as we left a mark on the earth for all to see from far away ~ Mankind had entered the atomic age.
It's like saying to the rest of the Universe ~ Your neighbor has a "new toy"!
Dance | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 11:26:24 AM | Star gazer...."We" are not going to discuss that angle further. The tribunal has spoken.
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:05:03 AM | I found this most interesting this morning ~ something that I had not seem before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc&feature=player_embedded
Enjoy ~
Seems the thread is not getting much attention.
I think it's pretty exciting stuff myself. ~
Why would we have ever thought that we were somehow alone?
Ego? ~ That reality only belongs to the individual ? hmm? ~ I think that is a true statement . Your reality is "yours".
Dance | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 10:10:51 AM | | my dog got ETs...extra tesiticles...I dont like ETs | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 9:33:02 PM | gobears1987: There are plenty of well educated and knowledgebable people who have seen a lot. If you havne't seen anyhing like what other people have, then you are only stating an uneducated opinion. I have seen something that did impress me and I'm just glad there was one other person on this earth that was with me and saw the whole thing too.
Talk about something you know and that might impress somebody. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 10:34:44 PM |
I don't think we're the first, and I don't think we're the only ones. However, I do think that we're ONE of the first to have evolved to the point of at least wanting to contact someone else. Whoever discovers faster than light travel wins the race.
Well~ we are truly trailing far behind ~ think about it for just a minute.
We are still using combustion as a power tranfer ~ think about it? ~ we still have to burn something to make it move. ~ Placing us as a few notches above cavemen.
We are the cavemen in the skys.
Waste? Heat? you betcha!
If we are to reach so much as the edges of our tiny solar system we must come up with some new and improved motion lotion.
It's really not new but only to us.
Pull up the hyper link I offered in a few post up and see what NASA & others have seen.
There many kinds of "other's" and they are busy, they are active and they are only mildly curious about what the cavemen are doing with their flaming and belching, slow machines.
In our atmosphere ~ we think we are booking at mach 3 ~ they can smoke thru our atmosphere at mach 24 or at a walk of 10 mph. Seems that a heavy atmosphere does slow them down however ~ just like us. They slow down considerable underwater to just a few hundred miles per hour where we're luck to make way at 60 to 70 mph.
You might wonder if they exist ~ I wonder what is their power source , I wonder what they consider "fun"
I know why they are here ~ to gather, to search, to find. The same reasons any living thing moves about.
We are over looking something that has great value, we just don't know what it is.
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Posted: 11/18/2009 8:05:33 PM | | Yes I have seen then several times in my life. As a matter of fact they are running the whole planet, believe it or not. Your actions are being controlled every day by these beings, good and evil. In the bible they are called angels and demons. | |
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Posted: 11/19/2009 8:07:06 AM | I am an avid crafter, and in my world UFO means UnFinished Object. I see them all the time. I've got a bunch of them in my closet.
As for the "real" UFOs? I happen to believe. Simply because I'm not arrogant enough to imagine that human beings on this planet are the only intelligent species anywhere. And if a civilization from another planet/solar system/galaxy has evolved enough to travel where they please without distance or condition limitations, then human beings (in all our self-proclaimed superiority) will simply be Neanderthals for others to study and play with. If you consider the relatively brief history of the human race on this planet, you'll find that we're not really as intelligent or as advanced as we keep telling ourselves we are. | |
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Posted: 11/19/2009 5:09:02 PM |
then human beings (in all our self-proclaimed superiority) will simply be Neanderthals for others to study and play with. If you consider the relatively brief history of the human race on this planet, you'll find that we're not really as intelligent or as advanced as we keep telling ourselves we are.
amen to that! | |
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