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 lyingcheat

Joined: 9/13/2009
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Who are you calling Bird Brain?
Posted: 10/3/2009 8:52:30 PM

Check out this clip of Nora the piano playing cat:
Thanks for that.
A pussy tickling the ivories always makes for a good start to the day.
 Hawaiianluau

Joined: 11/13/2008
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Who are you calling Bird Brain?
Posted: 10/5/2009 12:11:32 PM
My finches are back. They come every year and nest right above my porch chair using the same, refurbished nest. This year it seems they are less paranoid of me. They will remain in the eaves when I come out and sit down where before they would wing it at the first sound or motion I would make. I try not to fall into depression after the chicks are gone and they leave for another year like Tony Soprano did with his ducks that hung out in the swimming pool and he'd have to high tail it to his shrink.

I still would like to know what I'm missing when they all fly the coup. I imagine they get up and fly away into their own corner of the neighborhood, all 10 or 12 at the same time. I can always tell the day before they do by the way the two parents are acting. Almost as if they are licking their finger and putting it in the air to gauge wind speed, taking a look at chances of rain, surveying the ground area for distance and possible predators like the 2 or 3 few cats that periodically travel through. Very cool nature is. I would never personally keep a bird in a cage so it's great having these critters make a visit every year. Haa, I'm looking up right now and they are taking a peek down at me. Awesome.
 greynomad43

Joined: 4/11/2009
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Who are you calling Bird Brain?
Posted: 10/5/2009 2:56:43 PM
Occasionally, we find it necessary to medicate our feathered friends. Here are some pointers to help you with this task.

FIRST APPLICATION:

1. Retrieve the bird from the cage.
2. Set the bird on a table and hold its head by carefully grasping the neck where it joins the lower jaw, or mandible.
3. With your other hand, grasp the medicine syringe and place the tip into the left side of the bird's mouth.
4. Depress the plunger and squirt the medicine toward the back of the bird's throat.
5. Wipe excess medicine from the bird's beak.
6. Place the bird back in the cage.

SUBSEQUENT APPLICATIONS:

1. Attempt to retrieve the bird from the cage.
2. Apply bandages as necessary to wounds on your hands and arms.
3. Retrieve the bird from its new hiding place under the coffee table.
4. Carefully immobilize the bird's head to prevent further tissue damage to your body.
5. Attempt to break the "Vulcan Death Grip" and remove the bird's feet from your hand.
6. Apply more bandages and a strong analgesic cream to the new wounds on your hands and arms.
7. Immobilize the bird by carefully wrapping it in a bath towel.
8. Watch in amazement as the bird "morphs." Its head and tail will probably swap position, putting your tender flesh in mortal danger again.
9. Hold the bird snugly in its terrycloth prison.
10. Grasp the medicine syringe. Try to stop trembling in fear and pain. Place the tip of the syringe into the left side of the bird's mouth.
11. Ignore the crushed tip. Depress the plunger and squirt the medicine toward the back of the bird's throat.
12. Wipe excess medicine out of your eyes and off the drapes.
13. Release the bird and squirt medicine in the general vicinity of its face. Some medicine may actually go into the mouth. The rest will be absorbed by osmosis.
14. Shoo the bird back to the cage.
15. Spend the rest of the day attempting to regain the bird's affection with yummy snacks and new toys.
 Naamah

Joined: 6/13/2009
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Who are you calling Bird Brain?
Posted: 10/5/2009 9:06:55 PM
It's difficult to edit reality though, and you seem to be forgetting that Alex the parrot could pull off these stunts live.
As he did many times, in front of hundreds of students and research assistants over the thirty years he spent living publicly at various universities, initially in Arizona, then later at Harvard and Brandeis.

Absolutely. The suggestion that some random TV footage constituted the entire scientific experiment is a gross oversimplification of the truth of Alex. As if the scientific community wouldn't have nipped the whole thing in the bud if this was simply a case of trick photography and editing that even the average forum poster could see right through. And, I guess, all scientists do some PR for the purpose of raising funding...nothing unusual in that.

But of course, Alex was a living individual not a robot, and the scientists do acknowledge that Alex had his days where he would be in a difficult mood and would refuse to give correct answers and keep changing the subject. Also he had his own ways of testing people, and those he took a dislike to he would refuse to talk to at all...or would mess with their heads. He would definitely sometimes turn it on and off by his own choice, but not due to lacking ability, just due to the mood he was in. I've been around birds long enough to know that they are more than capable of letting their scorn for idiotic humans be known...and Alex had his own mind, as does any toddler.

The story that amused me was where he kept refusing to answer the questions because he wanted them to ask him a different question, because he wanted the opportunity to use a new word he'd leaned in its correct context....and he pushed them to ask him the right question so he could triumphantly give the answer and demonstrate his new understanding. Little show off. Lot of intellectual processing going on there in that though.

I posted this link earlier too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4gTR4tkvcM&NR=1
The scientist involved answers some of the cynics, (but again bear in mind this is just at TV audience level), and verifies that Alex did indeed understand the language he'd learned, and used it not just to answer questions but also to ask some of his own, and to find out more, and to ask for what he wanted.
 Hawaiianluau

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Who are you calling Bird Brain?
Posted: 10/6/2009 11:02:07 AM
I wasn't following closely since I couldn't get youtube at the original time.
Thanks for the clarification.

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