| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 5:54:00 PM |
So if the guy is supposed to pay for the womans birthcontrol does he get 50% of the right to say when to have sex? I mean it is to prevent pregnancy from sex, soooooooo he paid for sex and should be able to cash in his 50% whenever he wants to. no, he didn't pay for sex. he paid to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. one is prostitution, the other is being a responsible adult -- it appalls me that you wouldn't know the difference.
I totally see where you're going with this but birth control should ALWAYS be the woman's responsibility. Like another poster said, men pay for condoms all the time. i don't rely on any man to be responsible when it comes to contraception, but it'd be damn nice if he was. i buy my own condoms, i carry them with me in my purse so he can't make some lame excuse, i even have a box of non-latex condoms for those guys who try the allergy excuse, and in the event that a condom fails...I PAY for the morning after pill. but given that an unwanted pregnancy affects both the man and woman, i'd think that most guys would see the value of stepping up to the plate and taking a little personal ownership regarding the issue of prevention. frankly, it surprises me how many women (as in the case of the comment quoted above) seem willing to let men have a free ride (pun intended). | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:02:58 PM | When the rest of the expenses are split in half.....I'll put the cost of that into the ledger.... Until then, I've never believed intercourse is the ONLY way for two people to have a fulfilling sex life..... So if getting the old heave ho is the end all be all to a woman where sex is concerned, then it's on her tab.
If you're going to want a guy to pay for the birth control.....then why don't you take it a step further and get a new "TAT" down in your nether region that says "no depsosit....no return"......... And I ain't payin' for that either.... | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:16:43 PM | If my relationship with the man is monogamous and long term the chances are very good that we 'share' the expenses in the household. My x and I always kept our bank accounts separate but the bills went on one list and we both payed half for everything, so it wasn't even a question who paid for what. Now if you are still living apart then take into consideration how many shows he probably pays for or how many dinners he's taken you out to. Even if you share most costs the chances are he does extras for you too. Most men enjoy spoiling their women but it's attitudes like this that make me understand a little better why so many men are seemingly bitter towards women [at least from the postings I've seen on this site] about how women are only interested in money.
If you are down to the penny pinching....I don't think there is much love involved...
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:24:06 PM | If you have a vested interest in not getting pregnant, take full responsibility for your birth control by paying for it.
Most men I've been involved with did so many other magnanimous things for me (dinners/driving/physical work around the house) that I wouldn't dream of asking them to pay half for something that I was always paying for anyway.
Sorry, it just seems petty........... | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:35:56 PM | I don't see it any more petty than all the males on here who whinge about spending $5 on a cup of coffee and a sandwich for a date.
Women have a lot more expenses than men do to make and keep themselves looking hot the way men want us to look.
I recall my ex husband's amazement when he found I spent about $100 a week average 20 years ago to look good. Haircuts, color, waxing, personal trainer, vitamins, cosmetics, skin care, perfumes, clothing, shoes, etc. etc. etc. He had this delusion that I just looked that way naturally for free. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:46:22 PM | if both the guy and girl don't want an "oops" baby, well then both should see the value in preventing that from happening. i really don't see why some people are so against the idea of a guy sharing in the burden. so, please explain to me how it's "petty" to ask a guy to take as much of a role in prevention as he does in the sex act itself.
p.s. i pay my own way on dates, i drive as much as the guy does, i treat everything 50/50...and IMO, birth control should be treated in the same way as it benefits both parties involved. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 6:57:47 PM | IMHO, when you have to split every expense down the middle with the guy or girl you are dating, you have a business arrangement, not a relationship. I don't see the value in basically sending the guy an invoice each month asking for 50% reimbursement for my "upkeep."
This statement in no way implies that I don't hold men accountable for their share of birth-control. I expect them to take co-responsibility for it, but I won't ask them to pay for half.
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 7:53:55 PM | | Birth Control is a personal matter. There are many methods that work, not just the pill. If the woman doesn't want to become a mommy it is her body her choice. Same with a man. To imply for any gender to pay for what is your responsibility is the same as saying "leave it up to me, just help me defray my costs." If a man said I'm using a condom so you don't need that IUD, Pill, etc; the woman would be nuts to pay half of his expenses and give up hers. Same goes for men; your body your choice. A previous acquaintance insured me she couldn't get pregnant because she had her tubes tied; therefore, I didn't need the condom. It got to the point that she insisted that I not use it. As I said, previous acquaintance. If I removed it to save me some money, and she got pregnant (what are the odds), you'd be calling me an idiot and I'd be complaining about having 10 more years of paying child support. Of course, that was before my vascetomy, but I still wear a condom. I'll pay for them myself, and she wouldn't have to pay for her birth control, as she wouldn't need it. If she chose to continue to use it, which would only bring up another issue, that's her choice; but I wouldn't pay for half of it. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 8:09:18 PM | All this talk of who pays for birth control brought to mind this question: In the blessed event when a child is placed under the overgrown cabbage leaf, how much do you tip the stork? And who pays for that?
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 8:09:45 PM |
If your on the pill, needle, ring, implant, etc, It can cost money. Some B-control is 28-30 a month..doesnt seem like alot but it adds up. If you are in a relationship do you not think that your boyfriend should pay half for your birth control if they are not wearing condoms and your relation is monogomous and long term? Why not? And while we're at it, she can pay for half of the physio costs to work on my sore shoulder for taking care of business while I'm abstaining. I'll just deduct her batteries from what she owes me.
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 10:24:07 PM |
If your on the pill, needle, ring, implant, etc, It can cost money. Some B-control is 28-30 a month..doesnt seem like alot but it adds up. If you are in a relationship do you not think that your boyfriend should pay half for your birth control if they are not wearing condoms and your relation is monogomous and long term?
Girl, where are your feminine whims? Its embarrassing that you even have to bring this up. If your man is paying for expensive dinners and buying you birthday gifts can't you at least pay for birth control? There is a little tact involved....sheesh! | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 10:39:52 PM | | Ok when did ppl stop taking responsibility for themselves? Your an adult, act like one.. It's your body, your choice to take BC and your responsibility. Why should he have to pay half? If you cant afford it than u definitely shouldn't be having sex since a baby will run u just a little more than $30/month.. Here's a thought.. Why not ask him to put in for half of your clothing allowance because your trying to look good for him? or to put in for the soap you use so that you don't stink around him?? First and foremost you take care of yourself, if your not able to do that I'm clueless as to how ur actively participating in an adult relationship. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 10:43:49 PM |
Ok when did ppl stop taking responsibility for themselves? Your an adult, act like one.. It's your body, your choice to take BC and your responsibility. Why should he have to pay half? If you cant afford it than u definitely shouldn't be having sex since a baby will run u just a little more than $30/month.. Here's a thought.. Why not ask him to put in for half of your clothing allowance because your trying to look good for him? or to put in for the soap you use so that you don't stink around him?? First and foremost you take care of yourself, if your not able to do that I'm clueless as to how ur actively participating in an adult relationship.
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You have said it best. One thing that I never allowed my ex to do even though he always insisted is to pay for my trips to the spa, hair dresser or my shopping trips just because I knew if he spends money on me he's going to start acting like he owns me. I had a guy do that to me, he would insist on spending a lot of money on our dates and he thought that gave him the ticket to act the way he wants to. Psst. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 10:44:53 PM | | Well in y opinion if it's something they agree upon,. I was told that insurance companies aren't paying for several types of birth control such as the pill, patch. it would be nice if they could come to an agreement since it's for the both of them. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 11:02:41 PM | amen deepluv,
i wont let a guy buy me a $4.25 drink at the bar because 'sure i'll take a drink' seems to be code for 'would you like to brand me, bop me on the head, toss me over ur shoulder and drag me back to ur cave now?' keep ur change gentlemen.. i'll pay my own drink and save myself the bump on the head.. god i cant even imagine what 'u need to pay half of the cost of my birth control since ur sleeping with me' is code for
and really.. it kinda frustrates me that ppl put so much emphasis on these kinds of stupid petty things but can't even get the basics.. how about u build a stable foundation with ur partner, try not to get knocked up, end up with a child neither of u is capable of caring or providing for since ur still fighting over who's turn it was to pick up the contraceptives this month and get it together.. just a suggestion  | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/8/2009 11:39:37 PM | lelathecat-- Absurd. Women don't have to be painted and sculpted, coiffed and coutured to look the way a man wants us to. IF that is the look he wants, then let him pay for THAT in --NOT the pill, patch, IUD, etc. Reason being is-- The OP and bf are not in any kind of committed relationship (exclusive perhaps, but that does not speak to commitment) and she wants to play the adult game-- the one that can result in an adult prize.
If a woman in OP's situation does not want to have a child at this time, facts are that it is first and foremost her responsibility to execute the following options: 1)abstain 2)refrain from johnny-vajayjay penetration 3)pay for birth control | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/9/2009 4:26:51 AM | | if u r living together then yes also if u need morning after pill..THEN yes yes and again yes the guy should chip in...it happened to me before and belive me it was not my fault that the condom broke but the guy did not pay a penny to help me out with the emergency pill and that is dead expensive- (mind me birth controll pill is free in the UK otherwise-and condoms are available for free in sum clinics...) | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/9/2009 4:33:17 AM | Thank you bree..... thanks for the last two posts.
And to the poster that questioned if I didn't know the difference between prostitution and birth control. Yes dear I do know the difference. However the OP is questioning that her partner pay for half her birthcontrol to prevent pregnancy, last time I checked that happened during sex. So, if he pays he buys a share of sex.............. | |
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/9/2009 5:36:33 AM | ^^^ again i must point out the obvious...he's not buying a "share of sex", he's buying protection from unwanted pregnancy during sex. there is quite a difference between the implication of these two statements.
also, just to be clear, in all my previous posts where i agreed with the idea of sharing the cost of contraception, this was within a defined, long-term, committed relationship...in those situations the partnership should be 50/50 IMO. imagine this for a moment, a couple live together for 5 years, during which she's on the pill...she pays for the BC at $30 a month (assuming insurance doesn't cover the cost), that equals $1800. meanwhile he gains the benefit of avoiding an unwanted pregnancy, without contributing a single dime. not to mention, that the average man still earns $1 for every $0.70 a woman earns...and well, you can start to see where this becomes an issue of fairness.
if on the other hand people are looking at this on the basis of casual sex, one or both should provide the condoms, and the woman is responsible for the pill should she use it. i was not at any time agreeing with a cost per use scenario.
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| Should men pay half of the expense of women's birth control? Posted: 9/9/2009 5:49:51 AM |
just read the constitution on occasion. I would agree he needs the congress (guess which party has total control?) I have read the constitution, it doesn't say anything about "birth control" (For us, let alone a foreign country) While studying, i did however run across another document. Said something about "LIFE , Liberty , and the pursuit of happiness. when they mention, LIFE , I suppose they were referring to the board game , or the cereal.
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