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 PrimeWoman

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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:46:38 PM
OP--
There are sexual acts that don't require penile-vaginal penetration to get you where you want to go.
Just an alternative idea worth considering to avoid contentious debate and procreation.
 schweig0

Joined: 9/3/2009
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:57:27 PM
yes, but extra protection never hurt either.
 ~*Isabel Kitty*~

Joined: 7/6/2009
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Posted: 9/7/2009 10:52:17 PM
I don't think a guy SHOULD have to pay half. But if you couldn't afford it, and it was the only method of birth control your using, he could offer to pay for it. I am not a guy, and yet I have bought condoms. So I guess it depends. If you say "I can't afford the pill this month" then the responsibility would be on him to buy the pills, or buy some condoms. I personally don't trust birth control as my only method, I have a fear of getting accidently pregnant & getting blamed for not taking them right. I prefer condoms, as even if I was on the pill i'd insist on them, so I just don't bother.
 a bit nomadic

Joined: 6/14/2006
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Posted: 9/7/2009 11:10:37 PM
How stupid can you be? You were a part of what happened. Share in the consequences. I'm really ashamed or the males who wouldn't step up and be a real man.


Thanks for that. And you aren't included in what I say next.

Honest to god, sometimes I wonder if I'm too picky. And then I read threads like this.

It's not complicated. If you are in a MONOGAMOUS relationship, and you don't want a child, and you SHARE your relationship, OBVIOUSLY, if paying for BIRTH CONTROL is an issue for your girlfriend/partner/wife, there is NO REASON not to share the cost with her, unless you are a complete ****wit (and a cheap one at that)!

Forget the reasons why it shouldn't be expensive for the woman (although you guys really have no damn idea)--if it's NOT expensive, then where's the problem in sharing the cost?

It is obvious to me that the same lame cretins who think this is something that they shouldn't ever be asked to contribute to by someone who loves them (and they pretend to love for goodness sake?) would be the same men screaming FOUL if somehow they got asked for child support payments! WOOPS? How did that happen? OMG, they think in their little brains: MY SPERM? Not MY responsibility!

Please, men who think like this, for the sake of our society, either keep it in your pants or give a damn about birth control!
 .Dustin.

Joined: 6/5/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 1:35:55 AM
If a baby comes of the union, the District Attorney isn't going to say the woman should have provided the contraception.
The man needs to do his part as well. Half the bill for the pill is alot cheaper than child support and wage garnishments.
I can't believe some of the answers from men on here. Meanwhile, I'm sure you are set for "intimate encounter" only.
Done the right way, all this would be irrelevant. The cost would come from the joint bank account.


 lucylia

Joined: 8/23/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 1:55:55 AM
Since when did it cost to get some method of birth control? Your local GU clinic gives out free condoms. Your doctor can prescribe the pill,coil,implanon,jag. Are we discussing a different country here because i currently have the implant (which i never paid for) and i have more condoms than i can count. I just pop into the GU clinic every so often and grab a few packs.

L x
 MizBexReturns

Joined: 8/19/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 7:43:25 AM
I am not sure if this a new low in personal responsibility or a new low in nickel and diming someone to death.

Shaking head, rolling eyes and stepping away from the keyboard
 PrimeWoman

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Posted: 9/8/2009 9:05:46 AM
DIVISION77-
I DIDN'T go there-you did.
That is one of many alternatives.
I've said it before, will say it again--
What consenting adults agree upon behind closed doors is OK.
In considering alternatives, ones mind has to be open.

Different situation:
He is a diabetic with heart porblems, cannot get an erection or take viagra or such.
That knocks your idea out the window.
Does he and his partner simply give up now?
 sammylg

Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 9/8/2009 9:08:39 AM
Sure men should pay half for Birth Control Protection. Women pay for the Pill (or whatever they use), Men for Condoms. How hard does it have to be?
 whenandwhere29

Joined: 10/8/2008
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Posted: 9/8/2009 9:54:30 AM

and if the girl gets knocked up it's your responsibility as the daddy to pay child support for 18+ years. now, you tell me, isn't paying 50% for the pill (or other contraception) the more intelligent economic investment?


I totally see where you're going with this but birth control should ALWAYS be the woman's responsibility. Like another poster said, men pay for condoms all the time. I have never had a guy ask me for half the cost of the condoms. And depending how often you have sex, $30 is about what a month's supply of condom would cost. What you're asking is cheap and embarassing. Can you really place a value on your health? I think not.
 BikerBiker53

Joined: 6/11/2005
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:16:00 AM
WOW,

There must be some people acting like "Bunny Rabbits", ,....If,


$30 is about what a month's supply of condom would cost.


$30 would buy me a years worth of protection, even if I bought the most Expensive Condoms available,..and Id probably have plenty of Condoms left over,...and dry rotted.....Expired,.....LOL

Yeah,.....remember High School,..and the "Secret Weapon" in your pocket,...or your Billfold/Wallet,.. had a perminate Ring embossed in the leather from the condom,...that you NEVER used ?

I remember those days well,......everyone had "Protection",.....you just couldnt find any Female willing to use it,...

The cost of Protection is Cheap, compaired to catching an STD,..or having a child from the encounter...as someone else mention, that then your obligated to pay Child Support, till their 18.

Just a small note on that,.....what if the "Couple" have the Child,..get Married, or decide to live together,..and Child Support is NOT an issue ????

Child Support,....should be SHARED,..between both parties......

It takes 2 People, to raise a Child,

It takes a Village, to raise an Idiot !

Its sad to think that Men MUST pay for the FULL ammount of raising a Child,..

Seeing the outragious ammounts some men are required to pay for Child Support,...
makes me GLAD, that I DONT, fool around, unless its with a Very Special Lady,..
someone that I wouldnt mind shareing my life with.

Even then,..Id perfer to wear a Condom, even if the other person is on Birth Control.

Unless,..we were trying to have a Child.
 ~GoneSailing~

Joined: 6/5/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:21:12 AM
If pregnancy prevention were a concern of MINE, then I would take responsibility for providing it, choosing it, and paying for it because it would be MY concern about MY life, my sexuality and my body.

If my concern was having safe sexual intercourse with a partner I had never been with before I would request that we together - take the necessary steps to determine our medical "safeness" in being sexually intimate with each other - not only in intercourse but in oral foreplay as well. Sexually transmitted diseases in a normal sexual relationship can occur in a number of ways not just through penetration.

I would not have sexual intercourse with an unprotected, unknown, sexual partner.

And I certainly would NEVER trust my life and the life of a potential child to a man only based upon a physical desire for sexual intimacy without knowing that he was reliable and dependable and a quality moral person with integrity and responsibility part of his nature and character.
 Helen0426

Joined: 6/2/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:31:01 AM

Are we discussing a different country here because i currently have the implant (which i never paid for) and i have more condoms than i can count.

Yes, most of the posters herein are in the U.S., where birth control is rarely covered by health insurance. Although it is true that pretty much anyone can get free condoms here if they know where to go, which many may not (I do and also have loads of them). But, once things are monogamous and established for some length of time, and both have been established to be carrying nothing dangerous to the other, who wants to keep using condoms?

It occurs to me that the original question contains an erroneous assumption.

It isn't women's birth control - it's men's birth control, too! In order to need birth control, a man and a woman both have to be having sex, with each other. If they do not want children, the responsibility for prevention is every bit as shared as is the act requiring the birth control.

But I still say all that's moot, anyway. Insurance should cover it! And it is trending that way, albeit all too slowly.
 mulligan69

Joined: 8/17/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:41:50 AM
Those that have said yes, all I can say is "Wow!"

Uh, no - the answer is no, and for many reasons.
 big pacific

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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:45:43 AM
It isn't women's birth control - it's men's birth control, too! In order to need birth control, a man and a woman both have to be having sex, with each other. If they do not want children, the responsibility for prevention is every bit as shared as is the act requiring the birth control.


I'm cool with us sharing the responsibility, BUT then YOU have to give up the "it's my body" arguement when the unwanted pregnancy DOES occur, it can't be YOUR body when theres a choice, but OUR responsibility on birth control. If it's our equal responsibility for having sex, for birth control, then the decision is every bit as shared when something unplanned happned.


And that will happen when hell freezes over from flying pigs breath.
 jbogie

Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 9/8/2009 11:46:24 AM
good question. but i just plain don't care having had a vascectomy in 72'. it's not an issue for me for a couple reasons the first being obvious, she won't get pregnant by me. the second better be obvious at least to her, she needs no birth control if she's having sex with me because believing in monogomy she has no worries about getting pregnant from anybody else. for those of you still able to perpetuate the species i hope you enjoy YOUR offspring as i enjoyed mine. but in whatever action you take, be sure it's the responsible thing for YOU to do regardless of whether or not you have help doing it. it's never the responsibility of a kid. accident or otherwise.
 GreenCarrot

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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:09:23 PM
condoms ****ing suck

i dont see why he shouldnt pay half, who the **** is too broke to afford 30 dollars a month anyways.
 Rickeyes58

Joined: 3/15/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:22:05 PM
The first act Mr. obama did in office, was commit 40 million $$$ to "birth control" in Africa, not only was this a huge boost to our failing economy, but it forced me to pay for something I'm adamantly against.

Like it or not , we all end up paying
 CookieLady66

Joined: 11/7/2008
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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:26:01 PM
Wow! I'm just sitting here adding up all the $$$ I've saved in the last 13 years (since I had my tubes tied, cut & burned).
 Lil Brooker

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Posted: 9/8/2009 12:54:51 PM
He should pay for half of your birth control costs as much as you would pay for half of the cost of his condoms. Would you split the cost of his condoms 50/50 if that was the choice of your protection? Something tells me no.

However, all this 50/50, splitting down the middle attitude towards expenses shrieks of a non-giving, self-focused and foreboding relationship. If my partner was doing the shopping and birth control was on the list, I would expect him to pay. If I was doing the shopping, I would pay.

I think many of these "who pays" topics are the fallout of a "ME" generation or mentality. For these people, "giving" has become a lost art.
 anudderbday48

Joined: 2/16/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 1:17:15 PM
So if the guy is supposed to pay for the womans birthcontrol does he get 50% of the right to say when to have sex? I mean it is to prevent pregnancy from sex, soooooooo he paid for sex and should be able to cash in his 50% whenever he wants to.
 Helen0426

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Posted: 9/8/2009 1:24:41 PM

However, all this 50/50, splitting down the middle attitude towards expenses shrieks of a non-giving, self-focused and foreboding relationship. If my partner was doing the shopping and birth control was on the list, I would expect him to pay. If I was doing the shopping, I would pay.

Yeah, I agree. In the abstract, obviously birth control is just as much an equal responsibility as is a child. But in the concrete world, if you have a good relationship, it doesn't matter, because neither of you is thinking about what it costs and who pays!
 PrimeWoman

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Posted: 9/8/2009 3:00:08 PM
The issue of birth control isn't petty, but given the picture the OP paints,
if you have to come here to ask, then it has become an issue of pettiness
between you and bf.

The relationship seems to hinge on a what's in it for me mentality
rather than a what's best for the partnership thinking.

Just my observation.
 Victorious-84

Joined: 8/20/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2009 3:04:55 PM
With posts like this it's not wonder that studies show that money is the number one thing that couples (married or otherwise) fight about. *sigh*
 jbogie

Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 9/8/2009 3:54:47 PM

The first act Mr. obama did in office, was commit 40 million $$$ to "birth control" in Africa,


the president has no power to appropriate funds for africa. only the congress holds the purse strings. no i didn't vote for him either. just read the constitution on occasion.
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