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 mungojoe

Joined: 11/15/2006
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/9/2009 3:58:49 PM

The ones who didn't start protesting until the liberal media got there.


Gotta love that green-toothed ignorance of anything that happens beyond the "holler"

TEGUCIGALPA, July 8.— Thousands of members of Honduran popular organizations today blocked the highways at different points throughout the country on the eleventh day of demonstrations to demand an end to the coup regime and the return to power of President Manuel Zelaya.

Lets see...

Written on July 8... eleventh day of demonstrations...

8... carry the naught...

If'n I'm doin' my cipherin' good...

That would mean the protests started on June 28th, exactly when the coup happened.

But of course that can only mean it's the "liberal" media's fault.

That must mean the "liberal" media got there just as the coup happened.

Man, talk about "scooping" Fox on that one.
 NoBushLover

Joined: 1/27/2009
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/10/2009 7:34:43 AM
It just shows that the republicans have no ideas, no solutions, and no moral center. The only principle they consistently adhere to is self-interest

The pukes think they can score some political points by whining about Obama. They don't care about democracy and never have
 ranger58

Joined: 5/16/2006
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/11/2009 12:00:20 AM
At least hillery knows to let them work it out them selves, and obama keeps his mouth shut now.
By MARIANELA JIMENEZ, AP
U.S. officials have promoted the talks in Costa Rica's capital, hoping to ease Zelaya back into the presidency without violence while resolving the concerns of Honduras' Supreme Court, Congress and military, which say they legally removed the president for violating the constitution by maneuvering to extend his time in power.
Arias, who won the 1987 Nobel Peace Prize for his role in ending Central America's civil wars, asked that outside critics of the talks "let Central Americans solve the problems of Central America like we did 20 years ago."
Chavez also read a note from his mentor Fidel Castro, saying the Cuban leader told him: "Chavez, that meeting in Costa Rica is opening the door for a coming wave of coups in Latin America."
Hope to see obama's friends loose there job, and democracy gain.

They don't care about democracy and never have

I guess ya never heard of Iraq, Afghanistan, and all of Eastern Europe that Reagan freed.
I guess it just shows that the hated, confuses some peoples thinking or memory.
 frankster_p

Joined: 9/4/2005
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/11/2009 4:02:12 AM
Reagan?
Arent you forgetting pope john paul, deserves a lot of the credit for Eastern Europe.
Iraq? To ensure future resource supplies, said by the ex conservative Australian prime minister, a staunch Bush allie.
 EarlzP

Joined: 12/9/2007
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Posted: 7/11/2009 4:39:12 AM

I guess ya never heard of Iraq, Afghanistan, and all of Eastern Europe that Reagan freed.
I guess it just shows that the hated, confuses some peoples thinking or memory.


Do you make this up on the spur of the moment? Where do your statements come from? Irag and Afganistan are far from being free and if they were it would have little to nothing to do with President Reagan

Eastern Europe help me to understand how President Reagan freed eastern Europe?
 NoBushLover

Joined: 1/27/2009
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/12/2009 2:10:42 PM
^^Well, it's just a implicit recognition that the facts have a liberal bias. Everything Reagan did turned to crap.
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 7/12/2009 11:31:55 PM
Since when was attempting to change the consitution through legal means a measurement of being a thug?

Under what circumstances would a miltiary coup ever be considered desirable? If he did something wrong go through the proper legal channels, it's not like Nixon left office when the white house was stormed by the 101st airborn.

This entire thing is really sad, I have friends in Honduras, I built a school there this year, and the idea that there is some sort of "liberal media" making the people rise up is rather disgusting. I mean is it really "liberal" to not want your military making decisions on who runs the country? Is that a bad thing?


I guess ya never heard of Iraq, Afghanistan, and all of Eastern Europe that Reagan freed.


Reagan freed Iraq? You mean living under Sadam was freedom? Living under the Taliban was freedom? Reagan forced Gorbachev?

Man you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
 NoBushLover

Joined: 1/27/2009
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/13/2009 8:01:23 AM
^^What do you expect from people who think a military coup is "democracy in action"?

The rightwing has no ideas, no solutions, no principles, and no moral center, so they shout their slogans about "thugs" and "socialism" and pray that no one notices they are supporting fascism
 ranger58

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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/14/2009 2:45:28 PM

Arent you forgetting pope john paul, deserves a lot of the credit for Eastern Europe.
Nope, didn't forget about Thatcher, or the Polish PM either. This is about Republicans spreading democracy, and although they are many who worked to bring about democracy in the former Soviet Union. If it wasn't for God and R. Reagan, they would still be in the grips of the evil government. I would bet many more would be also, even in South America. Just as Reagan had to fight against the dem's during the 80's over the USSR, so did Bush have to fight with the dem's in spreading democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Eastern Europe help me to understand how President Reagan freed eastern Europe?
Sure. Look it up on the internet, and use an open, unbiased mind. You might really learn something.

Since when was attempting to change the consitution through legal means a measurement of being a thug?
I don't think they were legal under Honduras law. Then again, that's not my strong suite, history and politics is. Zelaya was and still is a thug before he tried to imitate Chavez.
I really don't think it should be called a "military coup" When there Supreme Court declares be broke the law, and then the congress kicks him out of office, and has the military remove him out of the county. Is that a "military coup" What are the "proper channels" in Honduras? Do they have to follow our laws????
NBL too funny....
I know when a liberal is at a loss, they become incoherent....
 NoBushLover

Joined: 1/27/2009
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So Much for the Repub mantra of Spreading Democracy
Posted: 7/14/2009 3:24:18 PM
I don't think they were legal under Honduras law. Then again, that's not my strong suite, history and politics is.


You had me at the first three words.

1) Referendums are legal in Honduras, just as they are in almost every democracy
2) Military coups are not legal
3) the court system has no authority to tell the military what to do.

Rightwingers support the military coup because it represents everything they fantasize about:

accusing a democratically leader of being a "thug" (his "crime" was letting the people vote on a referendum) so that they can use a thuggishly violent military to seize power.
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