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 heterotic

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Posted: 7/25/2009 12:21:31 PM

That's why perception and perspective are everything. Random events are only as significant as you make them out to be.

Yes!

It also limits the perspectives of others. I may have a subconscious desire to have someone in my life when I run into them on the street, and I experience a feeling described as "fate". If I decide it is in fact "fate", that leaves no room for the other person's perception of the crossing of paths, and leaves no room for free will.
 JustNotThatIntoYou

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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:07:55 PM
A lil off-topic, but still on point.............I think.

I think I remember a thread on here that was discussing the G-spot. If I remember correctly, it was brought up that science couldn't prove the existence of it(the G- spot) in a lab and therefore believed it didn't exist.

I know it exists. Most the sexual encounters with women in my life..........those women had a G spot. Most were relatively easy to access, albeit, some had smaller ones than others nd some were less sensitive than others.

My point, is that since science says it can't prove the existence of the G spot in a lab, it therefore doesn't exist and that's that?
Even though my knowledge and experience tells me otherwise...............that doesn't matter and it's not relevant?

Just because science CAN'T prove something, doesn't DISPROVE it!

I am a long time skeptic of astrology. And I put no credence into horror-scopes.

But my experience with people tends to match what the signs say about their personality.

Most of my LTRs were with Caps and, for the most part, were pretty good.

You don't tell a woman "No". Even more so if she's a Cap! She's liable to end the relationship over it!

My current relationship with a Taurus is more intense than anything I've ever experienced.

In my experience, Pisces people are the embodiment of Drama Queens.

Cancers are a bit overly sensitive and easily offended.

Leos are big on attention, not so much on reciprocation.

Aries is always fightin a battle.

Gemini can't make up their mind, too busy seeing both sides of the coin.



Again, I don't believe that astrology controls whom you are. Rather, I think it reflects overlying tendencies in personalities.

Now, nobody has to agree with me. That's fine.

But don't think I have my head up my a$$ because I believe this stuff because I'll just think you have your head up your a$$ for being so narrow-minded.


It's just one of them topics where some people will just have to agree to disagree.




Why would a "full" moon have any more of an effect on people than any other moon phase?

Maybe it doesn't? Maybe it's just coincidental?

Why would it be hotter in the summer months when the sun is further away from Earth, than in the winter months when it's closer?
 heterotic

Joined: 6/3/2008
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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:14:09 PM


I think I remember a thread on here that was discussing the G-spot. If I remember correctly, it was brought up that science couldn't prove the existence of it(the G- spot) in a lab and therefore believed it didn't exist.

I know it exists. Most the sexual encounters with women in my life..........those women had a G spot. Most were relatively easy to access, albeit, some had smaller ones than others nd some were less sensitive than others.

My point, is that since science says it can't prove the existence of the G spot in a lab, it therefore doesn't exist and that's that?
Even though my knowledge and experience tells me otherwise...............that doesn't matter and it's not relevant?


Either you skipped my entries, or you are completely missing the point.

It's not only that it cannot be proven by science, it's the fact that what ancient astrologers used to connect human behavior to the celestial bodies and their positioning is no longer relevant or correct. Your methods of causing an orgasm of the G-Spot still hold true. Your methodology and its tools for finding this phenomena are what astrology is, not the G-Spot Orgasm. The Orgasm from the G-Spot is the coincidence, the phenomena that has yet to be explained. The Orgasm from the G-Spot is paralleled to human behavior in your analogy.

Much like the bumblebee analogy. Astrology is not the bumblebee's flight. Human behavior is the bumblebee's flight. The science we used to explain flight before aerodynamics is the link that was incorrect. We never denied that bumblebees could fly, the science we had explained at the time did not explain why they flew. The link was missing, and was filled with whatever we attempted to explain it with until it was explained.

Do you see?
Before:
Bumblebee - X - Flight
After:
Bumblebee - Aerodynamics - Flight

Currently:
G-Spot - X - Orgasm

Currently:
X - X - Human Behavior
Possible:
Celestial Bodies - X - Human Behavior
Ancient Theory:
Celestial Bodies - Ancient Astrology - Human Behavior

My 6 Year Old Brain's Before:
Traffic Lights - X - They Change
My 6 Year Old Brain's Theory
Traffic Lights - Gnomes - They Change
My 6 Year Old Brain's After:
Traffic Lights - Preemption Equipment - They Change

Just because I didn't know Preemption Equipment existed, didn't make the lights cease their changing. It also didn't mean that Gnomes must be causing them to change. When the data I had changed, so did my theory of how they worked. This is an example of how science is self-correcting. Since ancient astrology is not correct anymore, a new link must be found in order to explain what, if any, effect celestial bodies have on human behavior. Mythological theories do not have to self-correct, because they are accepted to by mythical.



Most of my LTRs were with Caps and, for the most part, were pretty good.

You don't tell a woman "No". Even more so if she's a Cap! She's liable to end the relationship over it!

My current relationship with a Taurus is more intense than anything I've ever experienced.

In my experience, Pisces people are the embodiment of Drama Queens.

Cancers are a bit overly sensitive and easily offended.

Leos are big on attention, not so much on reciprocation.

Aries is always fightin a battle.

Gemini can't make up their mind, too busy seeing both sides of the coin.


I am an Aries, and who I am encompasses all of those things.



But you really can not argue when there is no valid data....1+1 has to equal 2

as she is not arguing to win.

vvvvvvv Actually, I can use a simple algebraic equation to prove that 1 = 2. But that's irrelevant.
I am always arguing to win. I just do not include irrelevant data and logic in my arguments.
 m_church

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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:30:02 PM

REAL Native Americans. You missed the point that he was a "real" one too.
I know people who were born in England who think they are descended from Druids... doesn't mean they are...Hell, I could claim that lineage better than most... but I don't.... Place of birth, nor heritage, has nothing to do with whether or not you're gullible...





Wow, thanks for that lovely bit of racism there, I'm sure they will appreciate it.
One of the first thing I've noticed in forum is that when confronted with arguments they don't like, people resort to insulting the proponent of the argument...
I am not a racist, I used the term to illustrate a point... not using the word "Gypsy" would have made the intent flawed... Perhaps, I might have worded it better... but so far... Most of my postings have been accurate... yet, you target one badly worded statement as an attempt to belittle my argument...


I'm sure you've heard of the term to be "jewed" because Jews were thought of as swindlers and greedy as well. This is disgustingly offensive, and by the way you got it wrong, what we NOW call Romani were once called Gypsies (this is no longer politically correct) by OTHER people in their erroneous belief they were exiled from Egypt for killing Jesus.

Yes, and also "japped" for being surprised... yes we all know any number of comparable terms... as I said, highlighting them is just an attempt to discredit my arguement...
Moving right along....(which is an inside joke... let's see how many get it...)
The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) states that a gypsy is a
"member of a wandering race (by themselves called Romany), of Hindu origin, which first appeared in England about the beginning of the 16th c. and was then believed to have come from Egypt".
The OED records the first usage of the word in English as 1514, with several more in the same century, and that both Edmund Spenser and William Shakespeare used the word.[1]

The word derives from the word for "Egyptian" in Latin, the same as the Spanish Gitano or the French Gitan. It emerged in Europe, in the 15th century, after their migration into the land of the Romani people (or Roma) in that continent.[2] They received this name from the local people either because they spread in Europe from an area named Little Egypt, in Southern Balkans or because they fitted the European image of dark-skinned Egyptians skilled in witchcraft. During the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries it was written in various ways: Egipcian, Egypcian, 'gipcian, 'gypcian.[3] As the time elapsed, the notion of Gypsy evolved including other stereotypes, like nomadism, exoticism.[4] John Matthews in The World Atlas of Divination refer to gypsies as "Wise Women."[5]

Ok and while I know there is also a reference to them linked as being the killers of Jesus it was due to them later on being linked to the Jews... as in the Jews and the Gypsies (because of their name) had come from Egypt...
Nowhere in that do I see a reference to it being a 'racist term'....
Gypsies of Romany origins have been a recognised ethnic group for the purposes of Race Relations Act 1976


Most of Native culture was wiped out so they get to piece together what they can out of Western culture and their family stories just like the rest of us.

Actually to get back to Racism... This is one of the the things that real Native Americans find extrmely offensive and extremly racist... Like I said please go and read the website I suggested... Ask them if your statement is true... Even better, tell them YOU belive it... ask for their opinions...
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php
They will be very polite for the most part... and you might actually learn some things...
Especially if you go there with an open mind....



... the statistical chance of the book lying there, the statistical chance of the Native American connection, the statistical chance of the reader telling me I would be involved with a Libran specifically, and that it would be in the next year.

What chance? your connection is at best a stretch... I have a book on Mexican cooking... one day a friend brought over a mexican friend...the book was on the table... I didn't understand a word he said but we still got drunk on Tequila! Wow... who would have thought such a coincidence could happen...?



So before I just noticed I had an awful lot of friends born in June

My mother, one of my best friends and my G/F's ex husband were all born on the exact same day....
My mother was into Tarot as I said...
My friend is a devout Christian...
My G/F's Ex is a freaking loon, a narcisscist and a lot more....
What do they have in common?
Hmmm If I stretch beyond same birthdate...
All lived within 10 miles of each other...
I know all three...
All three drive...
All of them have met people I know...
They all like dogs....
The point is that even random patterns will correlate at different points with seeming 'connections'... as they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.... (although interestingly, a slow or fast clock is rarely, if ever correct... yet casual analysis would lead to suspect it would be right more often that a broken one...) - But I digress.... about time really....LOL



So are you saying that your information is right more than 50%?
YES.

Would you be so kind as to provide an example or two?



There are many things that are useful and/or fascinating to people and most people don't care about it at all because they've never been introduced to it. Or they've been brainwashed into believing it's wrong so they don't try.

Interesting that you say it like that... your wording shows a causal bias... you imply it is 'brainwashing' when believing it's WRONG.... yet you don't make the same distinction that it could be 'brainwashing' making you believe it's RIGHT....
 annasthasia

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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:41:10 PM
Why would it be hotter in the summer months when the sun is further away from Earth, than in the winter months when it's closer?


The earth is tilting sort of downwards and the rays of the sun are closer to a 90 degree angle, hence more intense and warmer.

That is why Canada and Australia have opposites seasons and that is why when you flush the toilet the water twirls in opposite directions. The tilting of the axes of the earth and the magnetic field for the water turning in opposite directions.

That is the best explanation I can give without having the visual globe of the earth to show you.

Can someone else give a better answer?... English is not my first language.

By the by... I am not quite certain that the earth is that much farther than the sun in winter months and summer months... It is the axis of the noth pole and south pole that tilt in regular intervals giving us seasons...

 heterotic

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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:49:32 PM


Can someone else give a better answer?... English is not my first language.


I think Mr. Provocative needs to take a science class. Those are things we learned in elementary school and junior high.
 JustNotThatIntoYou

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Posted: 7/25/2009 1:55:23 PM
it's the fact that what ancient astrologers used to connect human behavior to the celestial bodies and their positioning is no longer relevant.


Says who? What'd they use logic? Rationality?

Or did they notice patterns in behavior that tended to occur simultaneously with patterns in the sky?

Human behavior hasn't changed.

Celestial bodies are still celestial bodies.

Both are still fluid(meaning, still in motion, always in flux)

Maybe there's no direct connection. I'll allow for that.

But maybe there's still a correlation or even a coincidence. I'll allow for that as well.

Who decides what's relevant and what's not anyways?



I am an Aries, and who I am encompasses all of those things.


Certainly. It is typical human behavior that all of us exhibit at some point in time or another. My point is, that they exhibit these behaviors more commonly than other signs.
Or rather, these behaviors have a tendency to stand out more than their others.



Leos are big on attention, not so much on reciprocation.


I can be an attention whore too. I'm also big on affection. I give lots of affection. But I expect it reciprocated. Leos aren't so good at that. Taurus is.
Taurus also tends to NOT be so big on attention. They're usually more the "behind the scenes" kind of people. Though they relish the attention of their mate.
 Me Leona

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:02:56 PM
That's not true, Leo's are extremely affectionate with the right person and as you know they're not very well-matched with Virgos.
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:07:12 PM


Says who? What'd they use logic? Rationality?

Or did they notice patterns in behavior that tended to occur simultaneously with patterns in the sky?

Human behavior hasn't changed.

Celestial bodies are still celestial bodies.

Both are still fluid(meaning, still in motion, always in flux)


Astronomers looked into giant telescopes and studied the sky.

There are 13 constellations, not 12.

They are anything but evenly placed among the sky, let alone 30 degrees of separation among them. This makes the positioning of the sun irrelevant and incorrect in relation to the zodiac. The planetary traits linked to human behavior were based on how the planets looked, and the culture at that time. We have since studied the atmospheres and embodiments of these planets (and moons, asteroids and stars of course), and their previously perceived personality traits are no longer relevant in our culture. Think about Greek Mythology. Do people still think lightning bolts are thrown from a God in the sky?

Take out a telescope and study the sky for yourself. You will understand why ancient astrology was based off things that are no longer true.
 strangerange

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:07:58 PM

I know people who were born in England who think they are descended from Druids... doesn't mean they are...Hell, I could claim that lineage better than most... but I don't.... Place of birth, nor heritage, has nothing to do with whether or not you're gullible...

What are you saying? That he wasn't actually Native? Do you have a point? My ONLY point is the book and him were both Native American and that is ALL.


Most of my postings have been accurate... yet, you target one badly worded statement as an attempt to belittle my argument...

Not accurate, that was the first one however that was actually offensive. I will accept that you didn't mean it. Gypsy is simply an inaccurate term, but it's no longer PC, just like Indian and Eskimo. But "gyp" most definitely is racist, because it implies a negative action against a specific group, and PLUS using it to disapprove of elements of their culture IS offensive.

In fact, all of this argument is basically about culture. When cultures do not comply with science you get to point fingers and call them wrong. The fact is science is simply not the only way to live and know life, and to discount other ways of knowing is basically ethnocentric.



Most of Native culture was wiped out so they get to piece together what they can out of Western culture and their family stories just like the rest of us.


Actually to get back to Racism... This is one of the the things that real Native Americans find extrmely offensive and extremly racist...


Since when do you decide what "real" native americans do or don't believe? I know several and I can tell you they definitely do not agree with each other on everything! Most especially on what does and doesn't apply to their culture, and how they should express that culture, and what that culture actually is. There are many, many aspects to culture and each of us as individuals has to make choices on how they incorporate that identity into their lives. How is pointing out that many tribes were practically obliterated, and the fact that many of them have adopted elements of western culture racist?? One of my best friends is native and she love Britpop music and punk rock. And she goes to sundances and powwows and is extremely lucky to have a living grandmother to learn from. Some Natives live much in the ways their ancestors and some are totally disconnected from their roots. REAL native americans watch TV and are exposed to all of this culture as well as their own culture from their families. What I said is true, what YOU're saying is that they're all the same and that's just plain WRONG.


What chance? your connection is at best a stretch... I have a book on Mexican cooking... one day a friend brought over a mexican friend...the book was on the table... I didn't understand a word he said but we still got drunk on Tequila! Wow... who would have thought such a coincidence could happen...?


The point of the story was to prove that the tarot card reader made a correct prediction that I would get involved with a Libran. You still haven't offered an explanation on that except chance. Which is a point of belief then, because you believe all meaningful coincidence is chance, so there's no point in arguing. You have your faith.


The point is that even random patterns will correlate at different points with seeming 'connections'... as they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day....

And sometimes 3 or 4 or more strange things happen all at once, to get your attention, and wonder at the awe of it. That is how I live my life, being appreciative of these small interesting, humourous and meaningful coincidences, rather than being dismissive and insulting towards those who find that it helps them understand truth.


So are you saying that your information is right more than 50%?
YES.

Would you be so kind as to provide an example or two?


You want me to go through my whole chart piece by piece and tell you? Every planet and house and sign? I'm sorry but I don't have the time, and I would have to go through all of it to arrive at an exact %. Problem is even doing that kind of study on just me would require a great deal of setting up. There would have to be "totally right" "partly right" etc etc, and I would have to break it down piece by piece, AND I would have to consult more than one astrologer to be sure I was getting accurate interpretations. I don't care if you don't believe me, is what I'm saying. I have NOTHING to prove in it being right.


Interesting that you say it like that... your wording shows a causal bias... you imply it is 'brainwashing' when believing it's WRONG.... yet you don't make the same distinction that it could be 'brainwashing' making you believe it's RIGHT....


For the billionth time I don't BELIEVE it's right, I've experienced it's right!
 strangerange

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:12:52 PM

Why did you not question the title, Native american astrology... Took the book to be the truth without even questioning the contents... It is at the least a disturbing thought pattern to me... Yet... science is just an other subject to be taken with a grain of salt...
Mmmmmm... ok...... Gently walks out of thread...


I DID question the title, I DID question the book. In fact I was embarassed at the time that the book was even on the table!! Because all it did was replace the western zodiac with elements of North American animals. I actually told him I didn't think much of it at all when he looked at it!!!'

The point I was making was that he was a LIBRA, and this was the way I found out. It is pure coincidence that he was also native, I just found that INTERESTING and strange, just like everything!

And what about Mayan astrology? Does that not exist? Are there not thousands of different Native American tribes on 2 different continents? You're saying NONE of them looked to map out the stars and made correlations with what was happening in the human world?
 annasthasia

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:20:24 PM

You're saying NONE of them looked to map out the stars and made correlations with what was happening in the human world?


For the record I never typed that. I do not have that type of thinking pattern. It feels like you are projecting here. (Just my intuition...)

Guess the poster never went to look at the links I provided on the Mayan Calendar.

Oh well... to bad so sad...



Here they are again... It is really interesting... for those with an open mind that is.

Part one
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&hl=fr

end of part one
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232&hl=fr

Part two
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8012280303892071695&hl=fr
 annasthasia

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:27:31 PM
And what about Mayan astrology? Does that not exist?


Yes it exists and it is not based on the Gregorian calendar at all... It is based on a cycle of 360 days. They were looking at a much bigger picture. The astrological calendar is based on the rotation of the earth... 360 degrees. Not the time it takes the earth to travel around the sun... 365 and a quarter days according the the Gregorian Calendar.

The Mayans had three calendars. One for the tax collector, THAT calendar is like the Gregorian Calendar. The second one for the astrology and the third one for the universe... It is my understanding anyway... a 240 (?) cannot remember the number correctly... and the 360 degree rotation where the are like two wheels with groves going in opposite directions and it takes 52 (? not sure the exact number) rotations of those two wheels to make a complete cycle... At this time there was a huge celebration.

Go see the links... It is all there... oh that is right ... you already made up your mind and there is no more room for other ideas... I forgot...



PS: I am much more intuitive and that sometimes takes me by surprise. When I was trecking in the Mayan ruins... I kept having what I believe to be flashbacks and it was like I was getting visions from a parallel world or some kind of resonance from energies that I somehow could sense. See... I too can relate to different realities and different types of time... This is just intuition... not at all realted to my astrological sign. For all I know, maybe I was dehydrated and the sun was too strong for me... I am a northerner don't you know... But... I leave the door open to the possibility of the wonderful visions I got. I am very much attracted to their advance knowledge in mathematics and their knowledge of the world since its creation. I was blessed to meet just like that out of the bush came out an older man that insisted he take me to an other ruin that was not public. Off topic here but the experience was awsome. He was an elder to his people. Anyway... Not like it matters... Just sharing.
 m_church

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:31:56 PM

Why would it be hotter in the summer months when the sun is further away from Earth, than in the winter months when it's closer?

The earth is tilting sort of downwards and the rays of the sun are closer to a 90 degree angle, hence more intense and warmer.
That is why Canada and Australia have opposites seasons and that is why when you flush the toilet the water twirls in opposite directions. The tilting of the axes of the earth and the magnetic field for the water turning in opposite directions.
That is the best explanation I can give without having the visual globe of the earth to show you.
Can someone else give a better answer?... English is not my first language

Ok... your answer is partly true... angle of sunlight hitting the earth allows greater atmospheric penetration and less reflection....
The actual mechanics of it are...
Orbits are not circular, they are an oval(ellipse or egg shape) defined by the centers of gravity of both bodies(sun+earth in this case) As a result, the When the Earth is further from the sun, (aphelion), planets move in their orbits more slowly than during perihelion(the closet point). This is a function of orbital motion... the result is that summer in the north is several days longer than in the south, affording the sun even more time to cook the landmasses in the Northern Hemisphere. Also continents and oceans are not distributed evenly. In the north there is more land and the south more water. When sunlight fall on the land, it heats up more quickly than water, which can absorb more heat before rising in temperature.
So, Earth is slightly warmer in July because the sun is shining on all the northern continents, which heat up rather easily. In January, the sun focuses its rays on the southern oceans, which also reflect more heat back.
 JustNotThatIntoYou

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:34:35 PM
I don't BELIEVE it's right, I've experienced it's right!




For me, experience led to belief, not vice versa!

BTW, yes I know that the Earth has a slanted axis and orbits the sun and spins while it orbits.
That still doesn't explain why it is colder when the Earth is closer to the sun and warmer when it's farther away from the sun!

And yes, I know that Leo isn't a good match for Virgo. Neither is Cancer, Gemini, or Aries.

And Pisces is Virgo opposite.

Taurus is a near perfect match for Virgo.


EDIT: m church, I'll buy that.
 Tenacious Forumite

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:44:38 PM


How much do stock do you put in signs?

None - there is no return for this investment.

 heterotic

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Posted: 7/25/2009 2:48:51 PM

For the billionth time I don't BELIEVE it's right, I've experienced it's right!


A better question, though, is; have you experienced it being wrong?
 Me Leona

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Posted: 7/25/2009 3:17:53 PM
And yes, I know that Leo isn't a good match for Virgo. Neither is Cancer, Gemini, or Aries.

That being said, I wouldn't automatically write someone off whom I was attracted to just because they're a Virgo, but I can't recall ever having a Virgo boyfriend or even dating one! I have become casual friends with someone I met through work who's a Virgo, and we do have affection for one another, romantic affection no. My father, mother and brother are all Cancers. Yes it was tough growing up!

I think it's interesting my ex-husband is a Taurus, one of my first boyfriends was a Taurus, and my current boss of 3 years is a Taurus.

My son is a Leo and I just discovered his Moon is in Taurus, his Mars is in Taurus and his Venus is in Leo, so I'm wondering if that gives him more "simpatico" with his dad, and it makes me curious what his other planets are in, would be very strange if they were all Leo and Taurus.

The way I see relationships, their purpose is to experience love (both giving and receiving), but they also provide challenges. The greater the challenges the more we grow if we can deal with them. On the other hand, if they're toxic, negative or too much work, they're not healthy. If two people are a perfect match and totally compatible, where is the growth? I also see that differences can complement the other if you're not looking for a clone. Taurus is dependable, strong, etc., which helps a less grounded person feel secure. A more outgoing person can help a shy person, etc., but only if it can be appreciated. Taurus is stubborn and so are other signs so they would need to learn to compromise, etc.
 theone9019

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Posted: 7/25/2009 3:33:27 PM
astrology, well some would use astrology religiously, and i think that why many compare ti to religion, i myself do not get caught up into a lot of the astrological arena, but i have found by comparing people i meet with other people of the same sign they tend to possess similar characteristics.
 nicol3y

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Posted: 7/25/2009 4:08:16 PM

I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I'm too lazy to search.

Anyway...

Being fairly religious I tend to not put a lot of stock in astrological compatibility. Then I got to thinking about my past relationships and the people whom I was involved with – more specifically their signs.

I realized that my worst relationships were typically with Aries, with Gemini’s coming in a close second. I also realized that my best relationships were typically with other Cancers, Scorpios or Taurus(es).

Kind of interesting.

How much do stock do you put in signs? What are you best matches and are the same type of people that astrology claims you’re most compatible with?


Every explanation of each personality type is done so in a positive way, so why would anyone be against how they are perceived via the zodiac, if for not other reason that they do not like to be typecast with millions of other people born during the same 30 day time period? This discussion is far deeper than that, and to pull it back out to a superficial level is ridiculous.
Was I really "off topic?" I was pretty sure I responded to the OP (isn't that what posts are for?). I mean, I am pretty sure some people just don't want to hear others opinions (since theirs are the "only right" ones).
 heterotic

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Posted: 7/25/2009 4:43:11 PM
^^^



Someone that is an Aries might not "believe" in the zodiac signs being relevant, because they don't want to think of themselves in the light horoscopes portray. While it hasn't been proven that zodiac signs (horoscopes) are factual, I think there are some factual things they are based on.


This does not answer the OP's question. I also doubt the OP is going to be coming back to this thread a month later to see if it is still "on topic", so your response in the progression of the conversation was very superficial.

You've obviously not read my most recent posts, because you don't even know what I'm debating.
 Mystic-One420

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Posted: 7/25/2009 5:19:11 PM
I work in a related field, and theres something to astrology....Its an ancient science, but one all cultures share. If you go more in depth with your charts, such as planets, rising sign, etc...it'll give you a clearer more personalized insight into your own chart. Its oddly accurate.
 MrBeReal

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Posted: 7/25/2009 5:25:00 PM
I do not know about astrology but I had an old voodo queen read me my fortune years ago in Puerto Rico. Some of it has come true and some not, or at least not yet. She told me things I had told no one. Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. There is some force she tapped into I can not explain.
 Aidyl1

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Posted: 7/25/2009 6:27:04 PM
I think there is definetly something to it. Enough that if I see a Tarus I will close the page without going further. Every tarus I have ever known has been just as the symbol suggests, bull headed and argumentive. My own daughter is one and wow... Don't get me wrong. If I were to go by her nature, a tarus can be very gentel and soft hearted, fiercely protective and give you the shirt of the back if you ask. But there is no such thing as a discussion, it's all about debate.
Oh sorry for picking on the Tarus, it was the first one that came to mind as an example. Perhaps I made a wrong choice in that one. The responces could get heated lol.
 m_church

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Posted: 7/25/2009 6:54:58 PM

I think there is definetly something to it. Enough that if I see a Tarus I will close the page without going further. Every tarus I have ever known has been just as the symbol suggests, bull headed and argumentive.

See, I'm like that too. Enough that if I see someone who thinks astrology is real and I immediately come to the conclusion that they are gullible and unable to follow logical reasoning. Perhaps weak minded and still prone to the superstitious beliefs that made our cavemen cower in the darkness. If I saw astrology on someone's profile I'd immediately close the page without going further. Every person I have ever known has been just as I suggest, gullible and unable to follow logical reasoning.



Oh sorry for picking on the Tarus, it was the first one that came to mind as an example. Perhaps I made a wrong choice in that one.

No, it's ok... the world needs more excuse for differentiating one type of person from another.... with only a few basic skin colours we just don't have enough options... white black, red, yellow... only really 4 options... although we could maybe stretch it to 5 with olive skin....
With astrology we can have up to 11 other classes besides our own to hate or love (mix and match as we like....) based on when and where they were born... Really,It's a perfect system for made to order profiling....

By the way, all those comments about 13 constellations. The 13th constellation was dropped because 13 is considered unlucky... Imagine that... Astrologers being superstitious... who would have expected it....?
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