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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 8:12:44 AM | I don't know if I can say I outright believe in it, but I do seem to be attracted to certain signs over and over again, in friendships and romantic relationships.
I tend to have great, but short-lived chemistry with Scorpios, easy-going, but slightly boring relationships with Capricorns, a long, mostly successful, but very dramatic marriage with a Cancer. I seem to connect most intensely with Virgos, however. I have a few very close friends who are Virgo, and my boyfriend is one as well. The level of compatibility is almost unnerving! It's like some of our traits were just meant to go together.
That being said, there could be other factors at work. It's kind of fun thing to think about, though. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 8:20:39 AM | OP,
I put some stock in it.
I'm a Sagittarius... and personally I've found I've done well with Cancer and Taurus. I haven't pinpointed a sign that I'm particularly bad with though... | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 10:57:31 AM | I dont follow the day to day horoscopes. Too vague, cant have millions of people having the same thing going on in their lives everyday. I had an astrologist explain it like this to me. We know the gravitational pull of the moon affects tides of the ocean. The human body is 70% water, why would it not pull at them also? OB units are extra busy on a full moon. I am a Pisces, feminine, nurturing, giving, go with the flow, more passive than most. However with Capricorn as my rising sun, that makes me a bit more ambitious than the average pisces. Thats where I get my drive. However, most of the neighbor signs, in my case, aquarious and aries--- are more in the friend zone. Other water signs, cancer and scorpio, are suposed to be good picks for me, because they are more emotional, but another Pisces, tends to be too much emotion brewing. A virgo, my direct opposite, tends to be all the things Im not, concrete, planner, can be the best match, or the worst depending on the other houses. I tend to come across a lot of other pisces, cancers, in the medical field.
I have my chart read twice, years ago. Just looking at when, where I was born, she only knew my first name. I went into the sessions with the mind set, that I wasnt going to help her to find out about me, I wanted to check to see if she knew what she was doing. She told me about my childhood, fears and secrets. my parents, my children, and a bit about the future. But she would not disclose anything bad. Most of what she told me was right on target. When we got started and I was being vague, she went on, "one or both of your parents died due to alcoholism" Well, my father was an alcoholic, who committed suicide when I was 8 years old. My mother ultimately died of liver failure, cirrhosis, a genetic condition she was born with, jaundiced all her life, though she did drink on weekends. What are the odds of someone pulling something like that out of the air? | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 11:04:00 AM | Astrology is crap.
Thanks to precession, we're almost a full "house" off between the actual position of the sun in the sky vs. what the astrological calendars say. Yet how many astrologers call for the calendar to be revised? | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 11:17:09 AM | | Perhaps that just means that "astrology" isn't actually based on the stars at all, and that was just a misunderstanding. If some primitive thinks that when they put special stones (ore) into a fire that the fire demon eats the stone and pees out molten metal, they're wrong but they still get the same results as if they were right. Perhaps astrology is the same, and maybe that's why it's only accurate to a certain degree, any experiments trying to improve the process fail because they're looking to the wrong source for for further information. Or maybe not. Though some astrologists do call for a revision of the calender, there's a name for that type of astrology which I don't recall. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/4/2009 12:49:49 PM | ^^^ It's called Vedic astrology I believe 
The basic difference between the two systems is that the Vedic zodiac is Sidereal and the Western is Tropical.
* In Sidereal astrology, the zodiac is aligned with 27 constellations, or fixed star groups. Aries, the first sign of the zodiac, aligns with the first constellation, called Aswini. * In the tropical zodiac, the point in space when the Sun crosses the earth's equator is the beginning point of the zodiac, or Aries.
The earth's equator shifts backward through the signs of the zodiac at the rate of about 51" of longitude per year. This is called "precession of the equinoxes." Because of this phenomenon, the theoretical Aries of the western zodiac drifts further and further from the Aries used by Vedic astrologers -- at the rate of about 1 degree every 72 years.
The tropical (Western), and the Vedic Aries were on the same zodiacal plane around 285 AD. Because of the precession of the equinoxes, at present, there is approximately a 23 degree difference. Thus all of the planets in a Vedic horoscope, including the rising sign, will be about 23 zodiacal degrees earlier than they would be in a Western chart. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 2:25:53 AM |
I don't know if I can say I outright believe in it, but I do seem to be attracted to certain signs over and over again, in friendships and romantic relationships I'm kinda right there with brightestblue, in that I've noticed more than anything I do not seem to have a good relationship with Geminis.... I'm a Taurus and I've noticed most of my life I've always had at least one Gemini in my life. I've had 2 best girlfriends who were Geminis... remained friends for a long time but always had issues, not very close to either anymore as I couldnt take their seemingly over bearing ways . My husband was a Gemini.... EX husband My oldest son is a Gemini, and he's been really, really hard to maintain any kind of a relationship with, mostly due to his Fathers influence... So I dated a Gemini this past year, and didn't it become something of a struggle? That's when I accepted Geminis and I do not mesh well! Lol! My "New" boss is a Gemini also... her soon to be ex husband, is a Taurus..
As for other signs, I can only hope the Cancer sign has good fortune for me, as my youngest child (a girl!) is one, and the guy I've had the longest, most sincere love affair with is as well . Mind you we've never lived together or spent much time as a solid couple. We were close a few years ago, lost contact for almost 5 years now but we're considering, slowly if we can make a good thing now out of this. I hope it's good! He's simply the only man I've ever felt this kind of connection to and have never lost any feelings for.  I've had short lived, but very strong relationships with Scorpios also...
Horoscopes? Are only fun to read the end of a day.... a good laugh at times. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 7:01:18 AM | | I find it rather sad to see even the smallest belief in astrology by people who would think of themselves as educated. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 7:31:49 AM | I find it rather interesting to see that all of the Taurean ladies who responded said that they do not find themselves compatable with Geminis & that relationships with Scorpios were the most exciting but the shortest lived...such is the case with myself  | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:37:46 AM | Being religious doesn't have any correlation to astrology, or shouldn't. They indeed, support and compliment each other, if one studies it deeply.
I give a great deal of credence to the astrological charts and birth signs. They've never been inaccurate or wrong and I am so VERY Cancer it isn't even funny.
I am ALWAYS attracted Aquarius males. Overly FOND. And yet they are the worst for me. Which is bizarre on God's part. The sense of humor....
Cancer men, are appealling because they can be so deep, and sensitive, but for me eventually they are not "man" enough. They tend to be too sensitive in the long run to mate with me.
I've been most recently dating a Libra, my first ever - and he's a nutcase. So I have to think that sign isn't the right one!
LOL!
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:39:20 AM | Dear Cinsav...
I think I understand your question and from the "fairly religious" point of view. I AM what you may call a Bible thumper...but maybe not what you'd expect. I read my Bible, consult with it often, but never thump anyone over the head with it! :) I will, however, make mention of what it contains when there seems to be a question about it...such as yours. It is not my intention to "preach"...just inform. All of this is with the utmost of respect to your inquiry.
The Bible has much to say about the stars. First and foremost, God made them and put them there for our use. However, that availability is limited to:
- Reminders of Him - His power and majesty, and his promises... asking Abraham to look up, try to count the stars, and inform him that his offspring would outnumber them. - Telling of time and seasons (along with the sun and moon), and - For navigational purposes. The Bible makes mention of the organization of the stars (constellations, etc).
However, it is also replete with admonitions that the stars were not to be used for interpretation. A form of divination, there are numerous examples of where God showed his disdain for such practices. (I can supply references if you're interested, but I'm thinking you (and most) are not. :)
Anyway, with regard to your inquiry, I will say this. While I have never subscribed to astrology, I have read my profile (scorpio) and was astounded to read so much about myself! Truly! Then I decided to read up on the sign of a boyfriend...again, amazing! Knowing, however, that it does not honor God, I do not pursue it. I could see how one might get caught up in its allure...as with everything, it's a choice. I choose to honor and consult the Creator, not His creation.
Not sure if this helps you, but I thought I'd chime in. :) | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:41:55 AM | Dear girl, I've studied the Bible for three years. Without end.
Please, refrain from telling others what it says. These things are YOUR interpretations of the book and nothing else.
You do not speak for God, so please do not take it upon yourself to tell others what was intended and meant. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:43:12 AM | Gonesailing...
Anytime you'd like those references I've mentioned... | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:46:36 AM | Wait a second...I just read your profile, Gonesailing. I quote...
"No, I don't read the Bible nor even believe in it. It's a piece of literature and an old one. That's all. I don't consider it holy and I won't. If that makes me Satan in your eyes, don't write to me."
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 8:50:35 AM |
Being religious doesn't have any correlation to astrology, or shouldn't. They indeed, support and compliment each other, if one studies it deeply. Astrology is just another form of religion. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 9:46:39 AM |
Wait a second...I just read your profile, Gonesailing. I quote...
"No, I don't read the Bible nor even believe in it. It's a piece of literature and an old one. That's all. I don't consider it holy and I won't. If that makes me Satan in your eyes, don't write to me."
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Wow you really are a person who loves to share other's words aren't you? And interpret them in order to instruct the participating audience. Is there any length you will not go to I wonder?
How lovely that you read my profile - One could wonder how it was any of your business or your concern, one could also wonder what motivated you to place it out in the forums?
Do you frequently disregard other's wishes solely for the purpose of self-righteousness?
Quite skillful taking the words of others and applying them to suit your purpose.
Do you wonder why I couldn't be respectful of your interpretations of the Bible and what God meant or intended us to learn and take away from it?
False prophets, false teachers, and.....prideful people rarely see that they are not teaching or leading others to God, that they are in fact and action offensive.
You stated you do not seek to bash people over the head with your faith? And yet you do so.
You stated you had no need to boast, be loud, be a Bible Thumper and yet....you do so.
A person who speaks out two sides of her mouth about faith and you wonder why I gave you little credibility in speaking of scripture?
You, my dear, interpret things however you choose to do so, and I will defend your right to do so, til the end of time.
But allow that you are not the only person who knows the Bible, comprehends it words and meanings and would NEVER presume to represent that you KNOW the mind of God, nor what HE intends man to learn or know.
You proclaimed to not only KNOW God's meaning and intentions - you proclaimed, to now all of the forums, that you know and understand God far better and more clearly than any one else is likely to - most especially me.
Judging others, snoooping into other people's business, being smug and self-promoting, prideful....are these concurrent behavior's of a woman of your faith?
Yes, I've studied the Bible for 3 years. Yes, I've served the RCA and the Protestant Church since the age of 11. Yes, I've taught teachers. I've led leaders, I've played many roles in the RCA.
Does that make me an expert?
No. I would never presume to say it does.
This is not a forum for religious debate or topics of that nature. The OP's topic is not about his faith, it's about astrology. The mention of his faith and his beliefs did not invite you to instruct the participating audience in the way they should live, or choose to live or in the word of God.
But please, feel free to continue to interpret as you choose my opinions of your interpretations of the mind of God in application to the OP's original topic which was not your gift of seeing into the mind of God, but is about astrology.
Wow - I really thought that people who claimed such powers were immediately smote and turned to char? Guess I was reading Tao?
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 10:01:13 AM |
It amazes me, how completely and utterly stupid you have to be, to believe that someone born on a birthday matching some arbitrary star chart would be a compatible partner for you.
That, in a nutshell, says it all folks... Although I might substitute stupid for gullible.
It's like saying "Oh, you're type O negative and I'm AB positive, that's never gonna work!.." | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 3:11:20 PM | Leos are my sworn arch-nemesis. My anger, my hate, knows no bounds when dealing with such wretched self-serving, attention-hungry, vile leeches of humanity. It's too bad, 'cause I really like cats.
You have to understand, being religious is great, but you can't restrict your mindset to one way of thinking. There are several bodies of knowledge in existence that aid in making decisions. Astrology is another avenue of knowledge. It may not have a foundation such as religion, but it still holds sway in people's perception. Whether you believe it, abhor it, or like me, take a few parts of it and incorporate it into your way of thinking, it's not something that should be disregarded. Logic dictates otherwise. For me, astrology shows a glimpse into a person's life, but does not paint the entire picture. There are many more aspects of a person that define them, such as culture, nationality, upbringing, and unmeasurable amount of past and current stimuli that brought a person to their current point in life. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 3:36:03 PM |
OP; Is god A he or a She? Just remember God only helps the ones how help them Selves! Sorry you have no biblical basis for that statement because it isn't in the bible. Read below
Question: "God helps those who help themselves - is it in the Bible?"
Answer: "God helps those who help themselves" is probably the most often quoted phrase that is not found in the Bible. This is actually a quote from Ben Franklin and it appeared in Poor Richard's Almanac in 1757. In fact the Bible teaches the opposite. God helps the helpless! Isaiah 25:4 declares, "For You have been a defense for the helpless, a defense for the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shade from the heat..." Romans 5:6 tells us, "For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly." | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 3:47:33 PM | When ever I look up at the stars I think about how the astrologers are searching for asteriods in 70% of the sky and they can not track ones the size that hit Russia and leveled 2000 square miles of forest. (they are too small) The other 30% of the sky they can not track anthing. But hey they state we will get at least a 10 second warning (should be noisy) as it comes through the atmospher before it hits.  | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 3:51:17 PM | Oh and I'm sure I spelled that wrong. I'll just have to live with it.  | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 4:04:19 PM | I study astrology and research a potential partner's sign. I'm a sag. Very independent and easy going. I get alont with Leo's, Tarus and Capricorns and other sag's. Not very successful with Scorpions... I can't imagine ANYONE can walk the scorpio tight rope..  | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 4:04:55 PM | Abbicci writes,
I don't recall the name of the study but a room frull of college students is given what they think is an accurate description of them based not just on the sign but birth place, time and all the other mumbo jubbo.
The all read the assessments and were asked to rate the accuracy , they all rated it exceptionally high.
They were then asked to trade assessments with the person next to them, every assessment was identical.
Her summary is accurate. I know because I read the study too.
Thanks Abbicci for shedding some science on the discussion.  | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 5:15:22 PM | Whoever said that Taurus and Virgo was an excellent match........was dead-on right!
I have a string of history with Capricorn. But I didn't realize what I was missing with Taurus.
Whether or not astrology is accurate..........I'm not interested in arguing.
What I CAN say about it though.
Is that there were just too many "coincidences" to just simply ignore the match predictor. | |
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| Astrology Posted: 7/5/2009 7:53:06 PM | I really don't understand the foaming-at-the-mouth types of responses to astrology posts. Dude, no one cares if you don't believe in it or think it's hogwash. Yet the 'nonbelievers' seem to get their panties all in a wad over the people who do believe in it. Why do you care? The people who like it are going to like it whether you agree or not. It's not really a subject that requires collective agreement on its validity. Given your information, people can learn things about you whether you believe in it or not. It's nifty that way.
PS, it's closer to an art than a science, if you haven't understood that already. Most 'astrologers' out there are total crap. There has to be an element of true intuition (or other talents that others may not believe in either) in order to be a good astrologer. It takes work to find one.
and...uh...that study? I read allllll about that as well. They gave everyone the same newspaper clipping of a horoscope. They did not get their specific birth information. What would the point of that be? It wouldn't have added anything to their experiment, given the set-up. Everyone knows newspaper horoscopes are hastely written by the same people who stick notes in fortune cookies.
My point being that a) you have no idea what a good and real astrologer can do and b) stop freaking out about it. Geez. NO ONE CARES. You can stop flopping about like a fish over it. | |
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