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Posted: 7/6/2009 8:29:25 PM | | I am very much in to astrology but do not follow it to a "t". Ironically, I have never been involved with anyone of whom I am supposed to be best suited with, such as Cancer, Pieces? and or Scorpios since I am a Scorpio. Both of my LTR's amazingly were with Aries men and just because I am a stubborn woman and enjoys a challenge I guess or whatever I have recently tackled an Aquarian that found me which I am supposed to stay waaaaaay away from..lol but the battles have been both aggravating and fun at the same time. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 8:35:26 PM | Sagittarians are the ones I've married twice AND divorced twice lol... Also, the most long term dating has been with Sagittarians. Makes one wonder about signs, yes? And, if it's a good or bad thing, lol
Do I belive in signs? I don't know... Do I read into them? Sometimes...
Is it a deal breaker? No, not unless you're a Sag, lmao.
I think I have a tendency to attract the "wrong" kind of guy really... Prolly has nothing to do with astrology... Right? RIGHT?!?  | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 8:36:30 PM | | I don't put any stock in Astrological signs when choosing a date, its meaning less to me | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 8:39:55 PM | | I've read what people have said about Aquarian males and from my personal experience, though they are the life of the party and everyone's friend, they are fairly detached and un emotional or rather closed in. That's why it suggests that Scorpio Women stay away from them because we are the complete opposite. But I also have a female Aquarian friend and the two are very different in character. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 10:10:20 PM |
For the record, my spirit animal is the Raven.
Really?, and what tribe were you born into...?
It's funny how the spirit animal is always a Raven, a Deer, a Wolf... A Fox...
It's never a bunny rabbit... or a muskrat... or a toad... yet, in an animism based spirituality, they are all imbued with spirits too... But then most people can thank a scammer named Harley SwiftDeer (see what I mean?) Reagan for that... he's probably one of the first guy to try to claim the Irish were Native Americans....
I can see it now. "Hi, I'm Princess Wannabe of the New Delhi Indians. My spirit animal is an Opossum".... Yeah.... It's like every Native American Shaman thinks he's the reincarnation of Geronimo.... None of them are ever the reincarnation of "Bucky two-feathers, the nerd of the tribe...."
And people wonder why no one takes them seriously.... | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:10:05 PM | I really wish my spirit animal could be a penquin. An emporer penguin to be exact. Those are the penguins featured in "Marth of the Penguin" and "Happy Feet". Those doods grow to be like 3.5-4 feet tall!
One of my lifes goals is to own a penguin, if reincarnation is real, I want to come back as an emperor penguin. 4 feet of "looking good", belly surfing and sitting on an egg while the woman goes out for take out! Who could want anything more? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:19:41 PM | | oh, m church. your a gemini. the twins. you are this way and that. not easy to make up your mind cause you see both sides. Do you defeat yourself in a debate? How do you decide the best choice to choose?. busy busy busy. First you are here, then next your over there. How did that happen, how can you be in two places at one time ? are you really a butterfly? Very intelligent, did you know all your letters and sounds before you even started school. Top in your class? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:21:40 PM | cinsav, I started delving into astrology more as a cynic, and continue to run complete charts on people I become close with just to see how accurate it is. What turned me into believing it, was that over time it turned out to be pretty damn accurate. And like a previous poster pointed out. If the moon can affect oceans, and it's been proven that people go a little crazy during the full moon, who are we to totally dismiss the idea that the moon and/or other planets also affect our bodies made of 70% water??
The people that are calling us stupid, are in fact displaying their own ignorance, because after all, the more you learn, the more you realize how much you really don't know. I mean stop to really think about how t.v.'s or faxes work... intellectually I understand the concept behind it, but it still boggles my mind, but back to the subject...
I'm pretty sure there is nothing in the Christian bible (which is what I'm assuming you are referring to when you say 'religious') against astrology. You could go on to say the wise men used astrology to find Jesus... I think that people confuse astrology with 'soothsaying', or some such archaic term that's used in the bible. Astrology is not horoscopes, it can't predict the future & is much more involved than just your sun sign. That's why when passing general traits of one sign to a whole room i.e. TAURUS' are stubborn, possessive, kings/queens of their castles, love good food & creature comforts- Well who doesn't right.
I'm a LIBRA with none of my planets in taurus, and besides loving my creature comforts, I'm none of those things. But of course Libra's are known for loving their creature comforts also. Although I do not base who I date on their sun sign... I do make a note of it and patterns have emerged in my life also, including there are certain signs (for whatever reason) I have never dated. To keep it simple I'll stick with sun signs only.
THE BADS: I am supposed to be very compatible with GEMINI'S... and it seems like they pop into my life in consistantly, I do love them as friends, and we do have some of the best conversations, but we totally clash romantically. PISCES seem to be a fatal attraction that is doomed to fail, the pisces is usually the worse off for it. VIRGO'S are way too picky and germophobic, which their sweetness can't make up for. I have a blast with LEO'S, but their need to be the center of attention gets old, no matter how much money they blow.
SO-SO: I Love Taurus' but they drive me nuts with their, 'I am way too cool to show that anything bothers me' b.s., which ends up in me pushing the envelope until they explode. Then I can say... seeeeee I KNEW that bugged you, and then I have to find a ride home lmao.
BEST: And these go totally against what most books say. SCORPIO'S & CANCER'S. Then again my moon is in CANCER. Astro 101, your moon sign is your 'emotional' state for lack of the proper term. So although I'm an airy, 'cold', aloof air sign- LIBRA, my moon is the emotional, nurturing, stupid mushy (that's my libra talking, cuz I hate that I have -gasp- feeeelings that cloud my rational mind), so I connect with guys that are 'mushier' than the other signs. Your Rising Sign is the 'mask' you put on for the public... the first impression you give off, mine is ARIES. So those of you that know anything about astrology can see why I'm so misunderstood... Hell, I'm at battle with myself :-D
More than how two sun signs get along, it's how your major planets get along with their major planets depending on which part of the personality they affect. From your OP, I would guess that your major planets don't have fire or air signs, but water & earth. Aries, Cancer's, Libra's & Capricorn's are also cardinal (or 'leader') signs, so that could cause a clash with the Aries you've known. As far as gemini's go... I'm with you!!! hahahaha | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:23:28 PM |
not easy to make up your mind cause you see both sides. Do you defeat yourself in a debate? How do you decide the best choice to choose?. busy busy busy. First you are here, then next your over there. How did that happen, how can you be in two places at one time ?
This is how I have been every since my first memory. It is so true. Unfortunately I am a Virgo, so what the hell??!?! | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:30:11 PM | | that is the duality of a gemini. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:52:45 PM | It never fails to amaze me that out of the many people I know, it is the least intelligent who dismiss things based on a social prejudice against people they think are hippies and flakes, based on their dogmatic, brainwashed notion that science, a simple method introduced far more recently than astrology, can explain everything. Science reveals only disconnected little bits of information that will never explain anything completely since each answer simply asks another question. It is NOT truth, it is a revelation of tiny answers to tiny questions.
People think science has saved us from the superstitions of old, when in fact science itself is a superstitious model that uses technology to tantalize and distract us. It is arrogant and ethnocentric, based on the supposition that European colonialist culture is better than other ways of knowing, and that human beings are better than other earthlings because we build fancy buildings and write stories. It is shocking and sad how disconnected everyone is from our roots, thinking that logic will save us. I know a few geniuses and they are the ones who are open minded, and believe based on experience, and not based on what someone taught then at school. Don't dis it til you try it people.
Oh, and I was told that my power animal IS a rabbit. I don't necessarily believe it because I didn't experience it myself, but that doesn't mean I'm going to say shamanism doesn't work. One doesn't have to believe or disbelieve any set ideology or dogma anyone has already created, one just has to experience life as though anything could be true, and that is the only way real truth can be discovered. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 12:20:00 AM | | Abbicci, yes I remember that video with the college students. That was based on newspaper astrology(for entertainment purposes only),not actual in depth astrology and the students were inexperienced with in depth astrology. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 12:03:51 PM | What's notably lacking in all the anti-astrological rhetoric is facts. Goes like this: "You believe in X, therefore you must be a moron, since only morons believe in X" - guess that's what passes for logic with these people.
Wait a second, here is an attempt at an argument!
Wait a second. When astrology was invented a couple of thousand years ago, people had absolutely know way to precisely plot any location on planet earth. Longitude and latitude hadn't been invented yet. Clocks hadn't been invented yet either. So people didn't think in terms of hours, minutes, and seconds.
Where do I start.
1. Astrology is much, much older than 2,000 years.
2. Hours, and fractions of hours, have been very well known by the Egyptians as far back as 4,000 years ago, and probably much earlier than that. Babylonians recorded time down to microseconds (as 1/60th of 1/60th of... ), even though they lacked the ability to measure it up with such precision. The very fact that hours and minutes of today are recorded in the base of 60 tells us of its Babylonian origin; which is where Astrology as we know came from btw.
From Wikipedia:
they specified that the mean synodic month was 29;31,50,8,20 days (four fractional sexagesimal positions), which was repeated by Hipparchus and Ptolemy sexagesimally, and is currently the mean synodic month of the Hebrew calendar, though restated as 29 days 12 hours 793 halakim (where 1 hour = 1080 halakim).
3. Not that you need to know minutes and seconds in order to do a chart.
4. Astrologers and their clients were local, they did not travel as much as they do now, and thus there was no need for latitude and longitude corrections.
Oh well, as if anybody's reading. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 6:24:35 PM | lmao abc.abc... I WAS reading!! And I must say the posts after mine were quite intelligent... well I thought mine was too, but you get my drift.
I find astrology fascinating, but then I'm interested in all things that don't really exist & are just made up by crazy stupid people. You know, things like gravity, electricity, dna, etc...
P.S. I heard that the world was NOT flat.... I know! Can you believe it? | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 7:13:23 PM |
My spirit animal is Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
Because I'm not a furry.
You fooled me! I thought you were " Cro-Magnon Man Sees his First Eclipse" | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 7:14:58 PM | | astrology is interesting but i wouldnt really put my whole faith in it... | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 7:49:40 PM | M Church,
Actually the frog does figure prominently in west coast native culture.
I didn't choose Raven, Raven chose me.
Oh and I'd DIE if anyone took me overly seriously! Have some fun M Church.
Lighten UP. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 8:06:31 PM | Abc.abc got the facts right. The 12 zones of the zodiac originated with the Babylonians as well.
There was a formal analysis of astrology and its predictive powers a few years ago. They used the birth reports in France to select a population who had the same birthdate, to the hour, and compared them to the general population.
How did they difference in personality? In success in life? in choice of profession? in choice of partner? in sucess of marriage? in choice of lifestyle?
The personallities were evaluated using a standard personality test.
Results. The group chosen by their time and date of birth did not score differently from the general population on any score.
As for Christians reading this. You should be aware that Astrology is considered a form of black art of predicting the future, which is forbidden.
Ketch | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 8:26:26 PM |
that is the duality of a gemini.
No its just the crap of crap. I wonder if the same people who believe in astrology, religions and other fantasy are the same type of people who got upset that the force turned out to be a bunch of cells inside Luke's body.
I see no problem when this stuff is used for entertainment, but it's a bit creepy when people believe it to be real. Kinda like a grown up believing in Santa Clause, the easter bunny or eskimos.
Some people allow this stuff to run their lives, as in they won't date a certain sign and they can only be friends with another sign but the sex is amazing with the an altogether different sign. I guess if you have absolute belief in this type of thing than it relieves a person of being responsible and accountable for themselves. If you haven't found love yet than it's the gods faults not your own. Or if you sleep around it's because of when you were born.
I think astrology is all about excuses for the downsides and bad things that happen in peoples lives, and reasons the good things that happen. If that were the case than every aspect of our lives should be 100% accurately reflected in the signs/zodiac/bible whatever...; I feel that instead we should spend more time getting to know our own true nature instead of allowing some card trick to dictate our true nature. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 8:31:58 PM | | i try NOT to think about it too much, however historically for me, it's been VERY accurate. Which is really weird. Not sure if it's coincidence or what. I'm a TRUE capricorn and REALLY love CANCER and HATE Leo's!!! | |
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Posted: 7/7/2009 9:28:11 PM | abc_abc writes,
1. Astrology is much, much older than 2,000 years.
Western astrology did indeed start in Babylon (Iraqi) perhaps as long as 3,500 to 4,000 years ago, depending on who you want to believe. However the astrology of Babylon 1,500BC bears little resemblence to what we know as astrology today. I am confident with a little research you will find my original statement about the age of astrology to be reasonable keeping that in mind.
Hours, and fractions of hours, have been very well known by the Egyptians as far back as 4,000 years ago, and probably much earlier than that. Babylonians recorded time down to microseconds (as 1/60th of 1/60th of... ), even though they lacked the ability to measure it up with such precision. The very fact that hours and minutes of today are recorded in the base of 60 tells us of its Babylonian origin; which is where Astrology as we know came from btw.
As you yourself pointed out, astrology developed in Babylon, not Egypt
The Babylonians did have a calendar. They were aware of days, months, seasons, and years. But they didn't think as we do today about time. You will not find historical accounts that record events as occurring as certain times such as, "At 3:00PM the King was born." I urge you to investgate this further and come to your own reasoned conclusion.
Good Fishing,
Timothy Paul | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 2:34:31 PM | | OK the arguments about when astrology started are kind of silly, since basically ALL prehistoric and traditional cultures follow stars and recognize patterns. It is a basic human activity to follow the stars, astronomy is just the modern equivalent that takes away the direct relation between the cosmos and human life. Native Americans and Indians (from India) are just two examples that also have astrological systems. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 2:54:18 PM | I am a female scorpio myself, don't be know if I truely believe in the stars or not. I basically use it for entertainment purposes , But funny you should mention the line up with Aquarius males. Not a match at all! In fact the two Aquarian males, both had such self- serving personalities, it was like they always considered themselves first, last and ALWAYS!!  Glad to be gone, from that.   | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 3:00:18 PM | | I am a Cancer and most of the men I have dated have been Scorpios by far, with Libra and Cancers, and then Gemini. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2009 3:01:15 PM | | I forgot Pisces too. | |
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