| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/4/2009 2:40:12 PM | It is not pre-judice when judging someone after the fact. It is postjudice. Palin had an opportunity to show here stuff and it frankly scared people that we would possibly elect someone worse than lil Bush. Once someone is a proven liar and chickenhawk like Bush, it is postjudice. Once Palin opened her mouth and showed her inexperience, ignorance, hypocrisy, and religious fanaticism, it was postjudice. I had an open mind at first...then she spoke.
Her greatest hits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/4/2009 4:01:57 PM | "I like that postjudice..guess thats why I don't like Obama...the more he talks and shows his true agenda and vision for America the less I like him....guess I am postjudice...lol"
Unless of course, like most, you may have been prejudiced before claiming postjudice.
Never saw so much blatant racsim as I did in from the Sidewalk to Nowhere/Birthers/Acorn-nuts and anti Wright Wrongs as I did in the last Presidential Campaign. Lots of prejudice, pretending that a hundred days proves their prejudice reich/right. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/4/2009 4:28:28 PM | | Actually, I knew little about Obama initially, during the primaries I started researching his voting record, statements he had made, text of his speeches, his stance on the issues,passages from his book, the church he attended, researched Black Liberation Theology and its origins, his affiliation with different groups lead me to research those groups and what they stood for, all of these things combined effected my opinion of Obama...but i am sure it is much more simple for those of you who support Obama to label us all racists. Why is it so difficult to understand that people don't agree with Obamas politics? Do Liberals dislike Bush because he was White? Just like Palin do you dislike her because of the color of her skin or because you disagree with her politics? | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 1:13:12 AM | Black Liberation Theology
This can't be as nasty as the "end times" some theologies are so obsessed about.
Why is it so difficult to understand that people don't agree with Obamas politics?
True, it doesn't have to be because of race.....
But,
Do Liberals dislike Bush because he was White?
No, but stupid people with power scare me, and most of the rest of the world, we are far less stressed in that regard now.
Just like Palin do you dislike her because of the color of her skin or because you disagree with her politics?
Mmmm... no, it's that "stupid people in power" prejudice again.
People incapable of reasoned expression in the course of something as trivial as a TV interview having power?
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 2:00:54 AM |
As I stated previously, Sarah Palin is an insult to my intelligence. If I'm prejudiced it is a prejudice against stupid liars. I wasn't aware such things are included in "race, creed, religion, gender, sexual orientation..." Futhermore, it was an insult to the intelligence of ALL women that the GOP thinks we'll vote for anything with a vagina. Great posts, WindRoper  Agree completely. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 2:04:45 AM |
Why is it so difficult to understand that people don't agree with Obamas politics? I do believe that for most people who do not agree with Obama it is about politics and not race. However, it appears to be, from most of what I read in these forums, about pure partisanship and not about his specific politics or policies. It appears that most people are against him because he is a liberal democrat, period, and they are not addressing specifically what is going on now in America. It seems as if they simply want him to fail because he is not a republican, and that they do not care at all about what is good for the country, only to get the 'enemy,' i.e., a democrat, out of the oval office. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 7:46:52 AM |
Actually, I knew little about Obama initially, during the primaries I started researching his voting record, statements he had made, text of his speeches, his stance on the issues, passages from his book, the church he attended, researched Black Liberation Theology and its origins, his affiliation with different groups lead me to research those groups and what they stood for, all of these things combined effected my opinion of Obama...
Obama's affiliation with various off the wire is strangely some of the type of people that are part of Obama team. The part of Obama's team whose selection , salaries and powers need no approval from other branches of the government, not even Congress. It seems that Obama is bringing in as his Czars some of the very type of people he had said he had disassociated himself with, which is making some past supporters wonder.
Yet for all that Obama is doing, his lies, broken promises and overall just being no different than any other president I still respect him as a person and do not feel the need to resort to the use of ethnophaulism.
Does this make me and the others who do not feel the use of ethnophaulism is necessary in describing Obama and his people better, No.
Yet over time the candidates/Obama do get looked at by how their supporters act and talk, which is a perhaps a small part of the reason America's support behind Obama is falling.
Oddly enough it just might also be a small part of why people are talking another look at the GOP and their polls numbers are going up. Also probably the reason so many feel the need to futher dish vocal republic people such as Palin. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 8:01:54 AM | .
.............Candidates looked at by how their supporters act and talk...................
We can only hope reasonable people have Looked at ...........
Nikko, the flying monkeys, and the tea bags.....
support of Palin, Health Care CEOs, Cap and trade, School speeches, Birther, Tenther........
Lots of people are looking at the GOP>>>> Dixiecrats.....
After all what kind of an idiot knocks a guy down then sticks his finger in his face?
Oh ......that right a guy with one less finger............. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 10:54:41 AM | About the Palin comments, People might just believe you are more intelligent when you accomplish at least half of what she's accomplished. Until then your character assassination is just another means of the low class taking cheap shots.
Really the underlying reality of Palin's detractors are motivated by simple jealousy, since none of them can make a rational or concrete argument for so much vitriolic hatred. Insecurity and low self esteem tends to produce jealousy regardless of political stance. How sad.
At least the woman can define what she believes in, and why she's a Republican. How come those on the left can not define their political philosophy? Please show us your so-called intelligence in what you believe in. I've yet to see anything on these Forums of what progressives believe in, it's no wonder people are confused about your issues.
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 12:50:25 PM |
At least the woman can define what she believes in
No, I don't think she can. Notice in this interview she says she disagrees with Roe v. Wade and then less than 30 seconds later she says she agrees with Roe v. Wade.
She's basically saying that the federal government doesn't have the right to invade people's privacy but the states do. WTF?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rXmuhWrlj4&feature=channel
[Also, she's wrong. The Constitutions right to privacy is applicable to the states because of the 14th amen.] | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 1:12:53 PM | Great new for the Democrats !!!
She is so crazy but yet panders to the doom and gloom Tea-Baggers and truthers that she will certainly cause a split amongst the GOP. The Liberals are really behind Obama so a split amongst the conservatives will guarantee a victory for the current administration. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 1:50:08 PM |
At least the woman can define what she believes in, and why she's a Republican. How come those on the left can not define their political philosophy...
Really ? A woman that resigned ? Quit mid-term... Abandon her people....
What does she stand for?
How many engagements has she stood up? | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 2:37:28 PM | Still waiting for any left leaning progressive to define their political philosophy.
There were a few who fired over the bow of continued rhetoric in denigrating Palin, but unfortunately that does not equate to anything but disapproval.
Is this really that difficult? Come on people, if you can find fault with the political views of Palin, surely you can prescribe for us a better alternative than what she believes in.
I reject the notion out of hand that any of you can be disparaging of Palin's politics, and yet have no ideas of your own that would induce better conditions. Are you afraid stating your views might be interpreted as against liberty, maximum social gain for individuals. Or producing suppression of private entrepreneurial activity by draconian interventionist policies?
I tell you what, if you share your ideas, I promise not to ridicule any of your opinions. Maybe this might help...In the Lincoln debates, Lincoln did not win by sheer power of intellect, but simply by shaping his views in a "plain way" so that the average reader could understand his position.
Let this be your line of demarcation, so that you also can express in a "plain way" your position on how America might go forward..PLEASE.
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:23:58 PM | Maybe if you read my post you can see that I'm defending Palin, therefore it is on Topic. Try crafting somthing legible instead of weaseling out. Can you defend what you believe? I'm really starting to wonder how anyone can find fault with Palin's politics, when they don't even know what they believe in!
Which simply makes my previous post valid, that these whiners are just jealous of Palin.
If she's still a "Republican" than the following might suffice.. For you clowns either are afraid or unable to state your political philosophy..please stay away from the voting booth, as there's nothing worse than an uninformed voter.
*The cornerstone of Republican philosophy is the belief that each person is responsible for their own place in our society.
*Individuals are encouraged by the Republican Party to work to secure the benefits of society for themselves, their families, and for those who are unable to care for themselves.
*Republicans believe that government should be limited to doing for people those things which they cannot do for themselves. The right to determine individual destiny should lie in the hands of the individual.
*Similarly, Republicans believe governmental power and resources should be kept as close to the people, though their state and community leaders, rather than centralized in distant big government.
*Good government is based upon the individual, and each person's ability, dignity and freedom must be respected.
*The proper function of government is to do for the people only those things that cannot be done by individuals.
*When government must act, it should do so at the level closest to those whose needs it addresses.
*The free enterprise system has given this nation a way of life second to none.
*Government taxation and regulation should be held in check.
*Government waste and over-spending must be eliminated.
*The United States Congress must reduce the national debt.
*Job creation should be encouraged through economic policy that
stimulates the private sector.
*The cost of federal and state mandates may not be passed on to the
local level.
*The genius of our American system stems from basic Constitutional principles. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:33:52 PM | You're not defending Palin.
You're just trying to call out others.
Nobody with an actual political philosophy can sum it up in a few sentences - so that pretty much takes in the people you're trying to call out. And frankly, you've never put up anything that would make anyone want to respond to your challenge.
Seems to me you're the guy that didn't know Whig and Liberal are synonyms. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:36:30 PM | I was surprised she didn't resign after her defeat in the election, but to read that there is a rumor about her running, does she really have supporters? The thread isn't about defending her, it was asked if she has supporters for her to run for President or actually running for anything in the future.
At this point, the only reason she is in the news is the baby daddy. Otherwise, she isn't talking. Only rumors still circulate that she is going to make money doing this or that, but I haven't read that she has done this or that to really make any money. That is what is on topic, what she is doing or might be doing politically or not politically. If you support her to run for office, why? | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:40:31 PM | .
She was on the ticket.... If she were to run What does she stand for?
I have not a clue....
Should I refer to the Focus on the Family site?
What does she stand for and what has she done>>>>
Her record as Gov was very poor.... Why... | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:41:19 PM | HalftimeDad I just summed up what the Republicans believe in, are you blind?
Surely you can do "half" as well, since you're a halftime Dad.
So please, enough with the untenable excuses, you people have failed miserably to state why you hate Palin's politics, and have only proved yourself disingenuous. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:56:24 PM | Watch out passionate gent or the left will start calling you a racist hate monger!!
Funny thing is, if the left would learn to keep it's mouth shut we might have had Palin on the ticket in 2012, but thankfully you have made sure that isn't going to happen. And I find it hilarious that you guys keep bringing up Joe the Plumber, he is a dead issue--last I heard he was on your side now--so you guys can run him, I'm thinking he could probably run a tighter ship than Obama.
Gent, I can answer what the left's political beliefs are. Whatever Obama is for, no matter what it is, they are behind it 100%. | |
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| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 3:57:16 PM | i liked sarah palin at first but as she started talking more, it got upset more. john mccain's folks and daughter turned against her at the end. i do feel that folks were jealous of this woman. she's attractive, her husband kids are goodlooking, she has a nice close knit family, she hunts and fish, she respects and loves her man, and can cook moose chili.
she can run in 2012 but she will not win her party. she has too much stuff or junk in trunk going on in her family. this mess with levi is really got me ticked off with her and with this "little boy". why on earth would you have a boy or man living in your house with your teenage daughter? of course , she will wind up getting pregnant. but, where is the family value or should i say "christian" family values she proclaims? also, she quit her post which is a sign of a Quitter or Loser to me and most folks. where is that pit bull dog she was talking about?
i think it was cnn or msnbc had her on tape or video conference showing her commending sen. obama on his work while he was running before sen. mccain picked her. the smear campaign her party did on her , not the liberal or Obama campaign was started by mitt romney's people (this is my guess) or a jealous old dude.
now, its out that levi 's mom or whole family are oxycotin or heroin drug smugglers or users and recently sarah's half sister or stepsister broke into somebody's house. back to old levi , he goes to some award show with that ugly comedian kathy griffin and is posing in all these magazines saying that sarah wanted him to keep quiet about the pregnancy and she would adopt the baby. this boy is wanting to do a reality show .
i think sarah need to let bill or sean hannity or big poppa rush give her a show or at least let her come on weekly( and a cut of their paycheck.) if she wouldn't have been so "dirty" slinging stuff at sen obama , i know he would have given her a position or one of his supporters. | |
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