| |
| |
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 6:06:36 PM | | To be honest, I think Republicans will nominate Jeb over Palin. There is just too much money and campaign donations tied to the Bush name and family. I don't think he would win, but he's not going to wait until 2016 because he would be too old. | |
|
| |
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 6:15:28 PM | Actually, 2012 is going to be a very weird year on the Republican side.
Lets face it, if the economy is good, whoever they nominate will lose. If the economy is bad, whoever they nominate will win.
But the party is getting smaller, angrier and more extremist. The voices that get heard in Republican circles are now Birthers, Teabaggers, those who scream "Death Panels." In other words, delusional paranoids. It's like if the WTC conspiracy theorists got to pick the Democratic nominee.
It looks to me like America has a perfectly good right wing party in the Democratic party - it's time to fold up the Republican party and start a new party on the left. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 6:48:11 PM |
I disagree, Palin or anyone with the last name Bush is now unelectable. Romney probably has the best chance out of the nominees that ran last time..
Well especially for Republicans money and resume speak louder than ideas. Bush has the money and ability to raise a ton of funds quickly. The only thing that would hurt Bush among Christian conservatives is that Jeb converted to Roman Catholicism, but Pat, Dobson, and Falwell will ignore that fact. Unfortunately, there's a reason why Romney didn't win Iowa and Huckabee did. Palin may have a lot of political guts to trash talk, but she's not stupid enough to go against a Bush, no need to upset Roger Ailes. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 6:59:00 PM |
Actually, 2012 is going to be a very weird year on the Republican side.
Lets face it, if the economy is good, whoever they nominate will lose. If the economy is bad, whoever they nominate will win.
Already the Republicans are slowly gaining in the polls, slowing but gaining. On the other hand the Democrats and Obama are really sliding in the polls.
The result is the Obama slide, the most important feature of the current moment. The number of Americans who trust President Obama to make the right decisions has fallen by roughly 17 percentage points. Obama’s job approval is down to about 50 percent. All presidents fall from their honeymoon highs, but, in the history of polling, no newly elected American president has fallen this far this fast. http://www.daytondailynews.com/opinion/columnists/david-brooks-obama-must-shift-policies-back-to-political-center-277882.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
Shoving down the Pork laden stimulus bill that did not end up with the results promised has turned many an American off from the Obama administration and all elected officials in DC; democrats and republicans alike.
When elected Democrats tried to shove the Obama Health Care Reform down America's throat Americans finally woke and said Whoooaaaa Slow down. The elected democrats actually compounded the issue by degrading those who spoke out at the Tea Parties and Town Hall Meetings. Strangely there were just as many independents and Democrats at these events protesting what was going on in DC as republicans.
2010 Is already looking like it will be an interesting year for both parties. If there was a strong third party I think that both the elected Republicans and elected Democrats would both lose out. Since there is not a strong Third party it's looking like the GOP just might gain. Primarily my reasoning behind this is the elected Republicans have had a more cooperative attitude in the last month versus the degrading brow beating attitude that most elected Democrats have shown to their constituents.
Will Sarah Palin pay any role in this? Time will only tell. I do feel that the negative crude and offensive activity from strong Obama supporters towards Palin has actually increased the probability of Palin being a noteworthy player with the GOP.
 | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/5/2009 7:19:15 PM | I think if someone really wants to vote for Palin, they should just vote for Ron Paul. They're both anti-corporate populists, except Ron Paul has more experience.
It will come down to fundraising and Palin won't have the stature to pull it off. | |
|
| |
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 7:48:37 AM | Really the underlying reality of Palin's detractors are motivated by simple jealousy, since none of them can make a rational or concrete argument for so much vitriolic hatred. Insecurity and low self esteem tends to produce jealousy regardless of political stance. How sad. This is quite a leap. Suggesting that no one has a mature and valid reason not to support Palin simply because your requests have not been satisfied is not logical. Making derogatory comments towards those not responding to your requests speaks more of you then of those you try to insult. 
Only rumors still circulate that she is going to make money doing this or that, but I haven't read that she has done this or that to really make any money. Gosh, are you familiar with the sole purpose of a PAC? http://www.sarahpac.com/ Unless you're talking simply about personal income... in that regard, my understanding is that she can certainly afford to be flexible with "really making any money" in order to further her goals
I do feel that the negative crude and offensive activity from strong Obama supporters towards Palin has actually increased the probability of Palin being a noteworthy player with the GOP.
While I suspect you might be right, this certainly doesn't reflect very well on the GOP. When it comes down to it, it absolutely baffles me that anyone sees her as qualified for the White House at this point. In the grand scheme of things she has been quite successful thus far. However, reaching the White House requires a hell of a lot more then just a successful career. It is a completely new level and I think she has a way to go before eyeing 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Resigning the governorship was a bad decision in that regard. | |
|
| |
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 8:01:33 AM | I said it baffles me that anyone asserts that she is qualified.
People vote for lots of reasons. I'm not surprised that she secured voters. I'm just suprised that they are willing to pretend she is qualified and that that is somehow the motivation behind their votes. 
Gosh... I wonder if anyone will take what I say and try to move to a bitter, passive agressive, off-topic rant about Obama... ten bucks says yes... let's see! | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 8:05:13 AM | I tend to agree with the poster, why is there so much Hate for Palin? She was Governor and she ran for Vice President, what is the basis for all the hate? I think I know but would love to hear a rational explanation from one of her haters.
I also agree that "reaching the White does take a hell of a lot more than a successful career" you have to have the Liberal media on board, have an environment in which the present President and administration are persecuted so effectively that many people actually hate them, then you have to have a media that misrepresents a War and how we got into it,you have to have created an America where everyone is so afraid of being labeled a racist that many vote based solely on the color of the candidates skin, then you have to convince America that being a senator for a few years and a "Community Activist" is enough experience to run one of the greatest countries in the world, then you have to get all the community activist groups, ethno- centric churches and unions to intimidate the opposition, get some endorsements from so Liberal movie and TV stars to address the Youth, then propagate the myth that all of the intelligent educated people support your candidate, Once you do all that then you will have paved the way for your candidate. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 8:27:44 AM | heheh, I knew the "liberal media" was behind it all. lord knows they backed Bush all the way and movie and TV stars just flocked to his standard
of course Palin had those two years of experience being governor of a state with a population the size of Cleveland and didn't even make it through that.
completely qualified. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 8:35:11 AM | Some folks confuse disdain for hate. I don't know anyone who hates Palin. They just found her performance and hate-mongering at her rallies to be totally out of control and out of line. She showed who she really was and it turned people off, including many in her party. Her ignorance, scarey church, and now her quiter attitude did not endear her to many folks either. Then there is her delusional "doing God's work" and her end times fascination, including loose Nuke talk, that nauseated many.
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending soldiers out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
- On the Iraq war - June 2008.
The MSM misrepresented the Wars long before they finally started facing the truth about the oil wars and the deception used to launch those wars, and the futility of bankrupting the nation over them. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 8:58:05 AM |
I tend to agree with the poster, why is there so much Hate for Palin?
And this is coming from the guy who spews constant vitriol at the moderate conservative who is his President.
For what it's worth, I don't think anyone hates Palin. It would be like hating a reality TV contestant. She's just a ridiculous figure and a constant source of stupidity. More of a guilty pleasure. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 9:44:18 AM |
And this is coming from the guy who spews constant vitriol at the moderate conservative who is his President.
I agree that the spewing of bitterly abusive names does not really reflect well on views being expressed. Vituperative name calling usually in a statement often tunes out the reader from what might otherwise be a worthwhile oppositional viewpoint.
There is a big HUGE difference between disagreeing with a person's agenda and vitriol name calling.
To disagree with an agenda and state veritable reasons is an American right.
There are many who don't agree with Obama that have and do express themselves in a propriety manner.
If you see vituperative name calling of Obama from within Post 266 please show me and others for I fail to see it.
It's very apparent within this thread alone the hate that emanates from many against Palin especially with the invective names people have been using regarding Palin.
It just might be beneficial for some to review this thread and see exactly what posts have vitriol name calling and who it is directed. I feel that it be found the Palin is the victim of the vitriol and not Obama. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 10:20:43 AM |
...also agree that "reaching the White does take a hell of a lot more than a successful career" you have to have the Liberal media on board, have an environment in which the present President and administration are persecuted so effectively that many people actually hate them, then you have to have a media that misrepresents a War and how we got into it...
Well, now--this is a page out of the Bush handbook, isn't it.
Exchange 'Liberal' for 'FOX News', and you have the makings of President Hand Puppet whose own desperate desire to be the Chief Decider mandated that he manufacture a war.
Yup. In a nutshell.
Big 'ol nut...shell... | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 10:31:05 AM |
I feel that it be found the Palin is the victim of the vitriol and not Obama. Limiting your search to this particular thread might show that... who knows. But what, exactly does that accomplish? Are you suggesting that the same doesn't happen to Obama (and to some extent most politicians?) OK. Palin is one of the victims of this. That is far from a revelation. It is a problem across the board, and is certainly not limited to Palin. I'm not exactly sure what is accomplished by stating the obvious. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 10:48:29 AM | I'd vote for Sarah Palin over what we presently have. He's not to bright to suggest sending Savings Bonds instead of a Treasury Check for tax refunds. What a dubious way to continue benefiting the Government off the backs of funds that belong to the tax payer. No one should have to wait until a savings bond matures to get their money.
Mr. Obama, tax return forms already have an option to receive tax returns in Savings Bonds, but of course your strategy is to mandate that everyone receives their tax return in savings bonds, whether they desire a Treasury check or not.
P..A..T..H..E..T..I..C | |
|
| |
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 11:11:26 AM | He's not to bright to suggest sending Savings Bonds instead of a Treasury Check for tax refunds. So you don't care for the idea (although I do wonder if you fully understand it, based on your comment.) Disagreeing with someone doesn't make them "not too bright." At this point anyone who suggests the man "isn't too bright" is giving themselves away.
but of course your strategy is to mandate that everyone receives their tax return in savings bonds, whether they desire a Treasury check or not.
A "mandate" was never suggested by Obama. Not once. Either you're falling for someone else's scare tactic or you're trying to implement one yourself.
If you want to get technical I don't think that the use of vitriol name calling directed at Obama within the posts by the poster of msg 266 or mine for that matter will be found in this thread or any other POF threads..
This is far from a technical discussion. However, I'm pretty sure the above text is meant to say that neither you nor another poster have used "vitriol name calling." I didn't accuse you of "vitriol name calling." But thanks for clarifying.
Strangely it seems that most of this hate mongering of Palin is having a bit more of a positive effect rather than negative. OOPS.
You have suggested this before. And it is still a sad, sad reflection on the GOP. My goodness. | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 12:03:15 PM | If Sarah Palin wants to step down as Gov, and enter the next Presidential Election, I say Bully For Her !
The real problem I see, 0n this Thread,..or any other Thread,..is that its OK to,..
"Point The Finger",..resort to "Name Calling",...against Palin,......or her supporters
But God Forbid ,..if you dare say anything negitive about Obama !
Good Grief,..you can say what you will,..about Bush,...Palin, or anyone else,...but if you just mention Obama's name,..then suddenly your a Right Wing Wacko
Anyone,...with "HALF" a Brain, can see that Obama is just Politics As Useual,..and he is NO Better,..or Worse,..than the rest of the Politicians we've seen recently....but his ability to maintain solid ground has dissapered, and it looks like he is on Quicksand instead,...LOL
Yeah,....Id say Palin stands a Great Chance of being Elected, even with the negitive publicity she's recievied.
That is unless ROSS PEROT,..or RON PAUL, were to run for Office,...LOL
I can see it now,..the Battle starts all Over ! | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 12:57:43 PM | I earn a handsome percentage of my income via investments, so I'll educate you on how using savings bonds is beneficial to Obama's Government, while inappropriate to those receiving a bond instead of a Treasury check.
Savings bonds accrue a paltry interest rate compared with an array of other investments, and a terrible premium over inflation. By forcing citizens to collect their tax returns in savings bonds, they would be forced to limit potential profits from other investments if they received their return via Treasury check.
COMMON SENCE should prevail in showing you many Americans need their tax return funds ASAP, not some time in the future.
The majority of Americans are smart enough to know where and when to invest their hard earned money. It's not the Government's responsibility to impose how people should receive their tax returns.
While people are waiting for said bond to mature, The Government will use money which belongs to the tax payer, to pay down their ludicrous deficit, and issue more wasteful pork belly expenditures.
It's the Government's obligation to pay what's due to every person via tax return, not to conspire a means to hold and use what belongs to the tax payer.
Neither should the Government be involved in a social engineering project calculated to induce people to save their money. That prerogative belongs to the individual not your elected officials
Try not to demonstrate any more evidence of our failing school system, in making comments that fail to comprehend the proper role of Government and common sense.
I suggest you start with reading the "Constitution"
 | |
|
| Sarah Palin Stepping Down As Alaska Gov. Running for Pres. 2012?
Posted: 9/6/2009 3:14:21 PM | | Trying to turn this into a constitutional issue simply shows that you do not understand the conversation. Presenting your misinformed ideas in a condescending tone doesn't make them any less incorrect. Harping on this doesn't change the topic of the thread. | |
|
Home
login 
